Hi Group,

I did download and install Net Logger. I can confirm the issues that Sara is having. Some people say they are not having the issues.  Is there any kind of set up that will make use with a screen reader work better?

I was able to enter data wit some clumsiness and safe it in stand alone mode.  The file is saved in log format and by default that format opens in Notepad Plus Plus on my system. Interestingly enough, when I viewed it in Notepad Plus Plus, everything showed up as it should -with delimiters using the vertical bar symbol. Using Net Logger itself, I could not get what I wrote to read in any other manner other than using tab and shift tab or after data had been enter I use left/right arrow keys to move from columns that already contained data and the information would read, but there was no way of reading the information--in particular--callsigns alpha-numerically.

Actually, if you use Microsoft Excel and set up a spreadsheet in data format, you get better results. NVDA reads all the columns if column header mode is turned on and you can edit and enter data easily. This takes some ability to design database/spreadsheets, but for a simple thing like a callsign entry system, where formulas are not required nor any fancy accounting knowledge, this isn't really that hard.

Like I said, this program does not have edit fields per-say. Even in notepad I can't read the calls correctly, and remember I'm using 1 hand. I even tried all caps and that idea failed last Tuesday when I was logging for someone. Again, if you want more info go to their website.

I can try this Saturday when I practice logging for the Saturday morning digital net, that is, if I'm alert enough to practice. By the way you do have to be a ham to dl the software, so can the hams please help? I really don't want to find another piece of software as let's say my computer reboots, I can have someone take over while I get up and running, so long as they have the pw to log.

Blessings all, I'm off to bed. I have a 3 hour training to do tomorrow.

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On 22 Oct 2020, at 21:50, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Sara,

Try one more thing and if it doesn't work, then find another program. Once in a while, when all else fails, highlight the whole edit field and then (laptop equivalent) press the read line keystroke twice quickly. With desktop, that is insert + up arrow.

On 10/22/2020 9:41 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It does not. You type in the sign and hit enter. If I need to edit a call, good luck, as that part is hard to do so I'd better get it right.

To read the calls, I up and down arrow but I cannot move left and right to read the characters and hitting nvda left and right yields blank blank blank. In fact object mode yields nothing at least in the net logger window.

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On 22 Oct 2020, at 14:19, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Sara,

Does this net logger have an edit field for each item?  If so, then either try using screen review or object navigation. I used to use an old ham database program years ago and using NVDA, if you moved to the edit field and then switched to object navigation, highlighted the callsign and then used the 5 key you could usually get it to work. If not try using screen review--a bit clumsy, but it may also work.

On 10/22/2020 4:00 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I can't do that. I use an app called "netlogger." and using what ever that would be in laptop keys yields "blank blank blank" even though I typed in the stuff. So that won't work. You can find out more about netlogger here. and it's free so feel free to download and see what I mean.

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On 22 Oct 2020, at 11:57, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Sara,

Using JAWS, there was a setting to 'spell alpha numeric expressions.'  NVDA does  not have this option. What I do when running nets is to highlight the callsign and then use the keypad 5 key to read the callsign and if I can't tell what the call is initially, I double punch the 5 key to have the expression spelled alpha numerically as in alpha alpha 2 victor Mike.

On 10/22/2020 1:26 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Hello to all. For those that don't know, I'm an amateur radio operator, and in a week I'm due to run a net. Fine, except I struggle with reading ham calls. I know on the BNS there was a ham calls option where it would read those such as ke7zum. Is there such a thing for nvda? Or can an option be thought of, an add on that could be turned on and off at will to allow for such? I know this won't happen by the 27th when I'm due to control, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like this.

I'm using the ibm tts voices but espeak and david does this as well. I can't code or I would find a way to do this myself.

The thing that makes this harder is not all call signs are 2 by 3 like mine. Some are a 1 by 1, or a 1 by 2. I've even seen some 2 by 2 calls.

Thanks all.

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