Re: There is something not right about this release of NVDA, but I can't put my finger on it


 

Hi,
That's intriguing. Can you enable one add-on at a time to see which add-on might be responsible for impacting performance? Also, does this happen after restarting your computer?
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 9:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] There is something not right about this release of NVDA, but I can't put my finger on it

HI Joseph. Slight improvement with first case scenario, but no luck with the second. I have only written this after trying out both cases, hence not being able to put a finger on this problem. Cheers!

On 18/11/2020 1:07 pm, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
What happens when you:
1. Restart with add-ons disabled?
2. Tell NVDA to not accept UIA events from non-focused control? To do this, open NVDA menu/Preferences/Settings/Advanced/check the first box, then check "Enable selective registration for UI Automation events and property changes". Then click OK and RESTART NVDA.

If NVDA works better after running with add-ons off, chances are that it might be an add-on or two that's not working great with NVDA 2020.3 on your system. If selective UIA event registration helps, then it is an interesting data point for I and other developers to ponder throughout the holidays.
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar
Sidek
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 9:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] There is something not right about this release of
NVDA, but I can't put my finger on it

Hi. The subject says it somewhat but not the whole. I somehow feel that NVDA is not functioning or responding too well, not only with windows 10 itself but with a few apps associated with it. So let's first talk about one of NVDA's most peculiar behaviors.

This is not to say that it is happening on every Windows 10 OS, but it is certainly happening on my 20H2 version of Windows 10.


There are times when NVDA somehow insists on having it full and final
say, so much so that even pressing the Ctrl key won't stop it from
blabbering unnecessarily. This particularly happens when the
following apps are being opened and worked on.

1. Android Studio.

2. Microsoft Visual Studio 2019.

3. the Reaper DAW.

4. Mozilla Thunderbird.

5. Microsoft office, especially with Word.


There is also this tendency to gradually slow down as more and more
time is spent on working on windows, especially when undertaking more
resource intensive work like Music production and programming. It
wasn't like this with early versions.


There are also cases where NVDA and certain Applications don't behave
as expected. I won't go into the mechanics as this is a specific NVDA
list. Suffice it to say that the Reaper DAW that used to be so Pally
with NVDA is not performing as expected, and I don't think it's just
the Osara PlugIn issue either, Osara being the Open Source Access for
the Reaper Application, but perhaps NVDA and Windows 10 may have a say
too. The same is happening with Android Studio. It was a sluggish
app before but still usable. It sometimes slows down to a crawl
nowadays, and only a restart of the program will do.


Now, I am not saying that NVDA is fully culpable, but It could be a
whole series of problems that have cropped up as Windows got to be
more "advanced" and "user friendly". Also, UIA is known to have
caused a few serious accessibility problems, and the need for NVDA to
adapt to UIA bassed apps for accessibility reasons might be problematic as of now.
Reverting to an earlier version of NVDA may indeed cause more of a
problem since I am not sure of the extent to which the MSAA model of
earlier NVDA and Windows versions have been superceeded by the need
for UIA assisted access. So, people who are using their pcs or
laptops for more involved tasks and jobs are in a bit of a no man's land at this time.


Just my two cents worth of concern. Cheers!












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