Re: Selecting Files

Sascha Cowley

Can confirm this is what happens on Windows 10 for me too.

On 2021-01-08 10:29, Gene wrote:
I don't know what accounts for the behavior you are describing.  Is it possible that this changed in Windows 10?  Possible, but its hard to believe that these commands would have changed going back as far as Windows 95 and probably farther.

If others verify the change, then it will appear that a change was made in Windows 10.  Perhaps others will discuss the question.

-----Original Message----- From: Chris Mullins
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2021 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Selecting Files

Hi Gene

Well I’m using Windows 10 with NVDA 2020.3 and it clearly announces “not selected” after each file name as I use Control+Shift+DownArrow to move through the list of files immediately after opening File Explorer. Similarly, if I select the first file then use Control+Shift+DownArrow, subsequent files are selected.

Had Chris known how the command works, he could have achieved what he wanted to do, so to say it’s the “wrong command” is unreasonable, particularly as you should know by now that in Windows, there are many ways to achieve the same thing.  I was giving added value to the subject of file selection as yourself and others have done, just think of it as another tool in the box.



From: Gene
Sent: 07 January 2021 16:58
Subject: Re: [nvda] Selecting Files

Control shift down arrow is never used in moving through lists. it is the

wrong command to use for the purpose originally asked about and it is never

used in moving in a list in general.

When I use it with NVDA, I can move down the list but the selected or not

selected status of an item is not spoken and nothing is either selected or


Control down arrow will tell you the status of items as you move. If an

item is selected, selected is not spoken.  If an item isn't selected,

unselected is spoken.  At least that is the case with NVDA.  These movement

commands are Windows commands, not screen-reader commands. Windows has no

purpose or function for control shift when moving through a list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Mullins

Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2021 10:40 AM


Subject: Re: [nvda] Selecting Files


It’s not the wrong command, you just need to understand how it works.

Control+shift+Down Arrow checks the selection status of the file in focus

and applies the same selection status to files traversed by subsequent

presses of the command.  When you first enter File Explorer, focus is on the

top file of the list but the file is not selected, so subsequent presses of

Control+Shift+Down Arrow did not select any files.  Had Control+Spacebar

been pressed first to select the top file, subsequent files traversed would

also have been selected.  This functionality makes it a more ergonomic

command to use than the Control+DownArrow and Control+Spacebar to select

command combination in situations where you are mostly selecting

non-contiguous blocks of files.



From: Gene

Sent: 06 January 2021 23:35


Subject: Re: [nvda] Selecting Files

It’s the wrong command.  In a list, when you are selecting using shift, just

use shift.


----Original Message-----

From: Christopher Gray

Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2021 4:44 PM


Subject: [nvda] Selecting Files


When I use ctrl+shft+downarrow or ctrl+shft+downarrow to select one or more

files, nothing is selected.  I have tried changing scroll lock, testing my

keyboard under Windows 10 and other MS suggestions but to no avail.  Any

thoughts here?

Many thanks.


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