-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tyler Spivey
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

Then why does Narrator give the proper count if this is the case?

On 1/15/2021 1:42 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,
Not really, as the new table interface was implemented since Windows 8.x days.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob
Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

The table of open windows is usually what I'm interested in. Is there a way to change this so it displays to NVDA in a list or however it did in Windows 7 and before?

On 1/15/21, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
Actually, you can't really find out how many programs are running as
many of them do not show windows. What task switching window
(Alt+Tab) will show is a table of open windows. At least on recent
Windows 10 releases, to find out how many windows are showing, it is
better to open Task View (Windows+Tab) instead.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob
Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

Most of the time it doesn't, but there are certainly times when I'd
like to know how many programs are running.

On 1/15/21, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

Why does it matter? If you alt tab through running programs, you'll
get to

the one you want. I' not saying it doesn't matter, but I don't
understand where it would.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 3:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

Hi all,
I had to use Narrator to get me out of a tight spot yesterday, and
I've noticed this in previous experiences as well. Narrator, and
every other screen reader on Windows 7, gave the alt+tab list as a
number out of total programs, for example Windows Media Player 2 of
3. Now on 10, Narrator is the only screen reader that does this.
Everything else I've used with Windows 10 says "Windows Media Player row 1 column 2."
To me this is not useful at all, because I have no idea how many
rows there are, or how many columns are in a row. Is there a way to
change the way NVDA announces this?
Bob