Re: Navigating A Web Page


You are arguing by analogy between a sighted user and a blind user. It is an incorrect analogy, as I explain in my second message.

If I assumed I had to do something every time focus changes for some reason on various web pages, or that have to do something when focus is automatically placed somewhere, I'd make all sorts of errors in what I need to do on a page. Just because focus changes on a page doesn't mean generally, that something must be done.

When you use Google, the cursor is automatically taken to the edit field. That doesn't mean you must do something in that field before you can use the page. It means that that is the most likely place a person will want to be and it is done as a convenience feature.


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigating A Web Page

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 07:04 PM, Gene wrote:
Evidently, a sighted user can infer that the play button won't work until the dialog is closed.-
And based on what I just did, so should a blind user. If you suddenly don't have access to something, and it's been replaced by something else, the presumption that you must interact with that something else, first, should be automatic.

I do this by sight because I see it's overlayed the underlying page. When I'm using a screen reader, and it pops up, focus of the screen reader shifts right to it and forces you to interact with it, which is no different than what I'm experiencing visually.

When you suddenly face a situation where focus has shifted, which was characteristic of dialog boxes of virtually any type, it's been pretty standard practice to review it and do what's appropriate to dismiss it to go back to whence it sprung. How is this any different, other than it's occurring on a web page? [That's a serious question, as this is not, in my experience, novel behavior. It's been around for quite a while.]


Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

~ Brian Vogel

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