Re: dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start


 

Hmmm where do you get these mods.
I will have to limit those to my workstation only.

On 11/09/2016 10:37 p.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Yes. Also there is a mod to make explorer have normal non ribbon menus
but beware its non reversable except by taking the computer back.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 5:59 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start


Hi there: sorry this is old. Can a sighted person use classic shell on
her ten machine?



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jacob Kruger
Sent: August-21-16 10:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start



http://www.classicshell.net/



Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-22 7:21 AM, Arlene wrote:

Hi, Where do you get classic shell? I’m asking this shell I end up
getting windows ten.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Christo Vorster
Sent: August-21-16 10:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start



Hi



There is method in the madness of teaching Windows+M and Windows+d.



Windows+D maximize the desktop while Windows+M minimize it.



I have found that installing Classic Shell is a great help. This make
Win10 look like win7.



By the way, Classic Shell is free.



Regards



Christo Vorster (Worcester South Africa)



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Sunday, 21 August 2016 11:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start



Hello,

I think I figured it out.

The top row is folders and under that is a grid of everything in those
folders. The problem is that grid is really strangely shaped and if you
press an arrow key you may jump to another folder. Nice thing is it will
announce the new folder, but that is also what makes it so confusing.



*Note* windows + d also takes you to the desktop like windows + m does,
you only need to use one hand though. I've never understood why they
teach windows + m when windows + d is easier to do and remember.

Thanks,




Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;



On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 10:10 PM, Jeremy <icu8it2@gmail.com> wrote:

Haha, a fun one! First, and apologies to those who may disagree, but it
seems to me that currently, the Start menu on 10 with NVDA is slightly
less than pleasant to use. :)
I've changed mine up now, I got tired of how crappy it was working for
me so I took all the stuff out of the pinned apps area so it no longer
shows up, but this is what I was able to figure out.

When you first press the start button and it lands you in the search
box, you can press tab, either once or twice and it should take you to a
vertical list containing a fairly large number of apps and some of their
associated folders. As you arrow up and down here, NVDA will first read
the section you come to, so A, B, etc and then under those, read you
apps that fall under those sections. As you probably already know, it's
here that you can press the applications key and pin said apps to the
start menu.

As for the area where Apps actually get pinned, it looks like shift tab
is what you want, so doing it from the search box should land you there.
It's here that you should be able to use the arrow keys to move up,
down, left and right in the grid, but unfortunately, NVDA seems to read
things here all weird. As something that looks similar to how IOS likes
to create named directories based on the names of the stuff you put in
them, as you're moving around here, you'll come to these named sections
and can press enter to rename them. As you're moving around here, you'll
land on these sections, lets say, Audio and Music just as an example and
can sometimes press down or wright and it will start reading you the
pinned apps under that section. If you happen to only have one or two
things here though, It's sometimes hard to get it to land where you want
on the icon or whatever.

I've wondered if it's possible to turn off the structuring of the apps
you pin here and just have them in a huge grid, but if so, I've not
figured it out.
I'm also not sure if this is something that NVDA just hasn't caught up
with and if there are things in the pipe down the road that will make it
more friendly, but so far, it is kind of a pain to use. haha

If you play with it though and figure out anything else, I'd certainly
be interested.
Take care.

On 8/20/2016 10:17 AM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:

Hello,

The reason why one uses the start menu is so you don't need to open apps
to do things like your calendar, whether, news and stocks. you just
arrow over those items and you hear what they are.

Thanks,



Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;



On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 5:40 AM, Louis Maher <ljmaher@swbell.net> wrote:

Hello Brandon,



I find it easier to place application shortcuts on the desktop. This is
a two-step process. Hit the windows key, type in the application name,
hit the context menu, find file location and enter on it, hit the
context menu and go to the send-to menu. Hit the desktop option. Hit
windows m to bring you to the desktop, type the first letter of the
application, and you will land on it. Note that on the desktop, once
you find a and select application, you can hit f2 and change the
shortcut’s name.







Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail: ljmaher@swbell.net



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 7:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start



Hello,

Does anyone understand how pins work in Windows 10?

I removed all the junk in hopes that fewer items would make things
clearer, but it didn't I pinned a couple things to the start and in
order to get to them I need to hit right arrow once and down arrow all
the way to the bottom when they should be just down.

Apparently there are folders but I can't understand how they work.

Any help would be great because I would like to start using the start menu.

Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;














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