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I am not writing to get into a debate with you about this but I
will say, in order that what I'm saying be accurately understood
that I did not limit myself to discussing the find command. In my
first message, I specifically discussed moving in other ways such
as move by heading or by heading level. I am not obsessed with
the find command.
On 6/21/2021 10:31 AM, Rosemarie
I'm in total agreement with you here. What if a person is on an
unfamiliar page and he or she doesn't know what to look for? If
I know what I'm looking for, then I'll use the find command but
that doesn't always work. For instance, when I go to the Heart
of the Nation site to hear the Catholic Mass online, I use the
elements list with insert f-7 and hit S to find Sunday Mass. I
don't know why this person is so obsessed with the find command.
Like the old saying goes, there's more than one way to skin a
cat. I won't say anything more.
On 6/21/2021 8:15 AM, Brian Vogel
On Mon, Jun 21,
2021 at 10:58 AM, Gene wrote:
which adds support to my opinion that it is at
times, perhaps more than realized, better to use find or to
move by heading or other ways directly on the web page.
Gene, I really have no idea why it obsesses you so how any given
individual user attempts to navigate a page.
Some people, and many of whom are likely to have been JAWS
users, simply like the elements dialog which is as close as you
get to the links dialog under JAWS.
Any page that has 4400-plus links is not going to be easily
navigated, period. Most web designers would never even begin to
think of putting that many links on a single page. This
particular page was not designed either for beauty or
efficiency, but is just a massive list of links arranged in very
large chunks, alphabetically, depending on what the title of the
movie happens to be.
You know how much I happen to like screen reader find and the
use of the various quick navigation options, but others simply
don't. There is no right or wrong way here, simply the one that
one prefers. And if you're aware that you're going to have to
wait for some seconds on pages with way, way, way more links
than is typical for NVDA to build the elements list, and make
that choice, there's nothing wrong with that choice.
Brian - Windows
10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043
I do not understand why
some seek to separate a person from their actions. The
self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and
expression, which are contained in and actuated by the
body. What you do and say is the clearest indicator of
who you are.
~ Brian Vogel