Re: What exactly is an "object"?


Gene
 

An interesting aspect of objects is that they can be very large.  I think most objects are small, that is my impression.  I don’t know if this is generally true of text editors and word processors, but if I open a long document in Notepad, it doesn’t matter how long it is, the entire document is one object and I can move through all the text using NVDA object review commands.
 
I have no idea if this has any bearing on the program under discussion but its good to know in case you come across a large object.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Jujube
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] What exactly is an "object"?
 
That's good to know, thanks :)

On 7/17/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
> Jujube,
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> The only thing I'd add is that objects include things that are not
> conventional controls, and the example of the status bar (that isn't a
> conventional status bar in presentation) at the bottom of File Explorer is a
> good example.
>
> The term "object" is intentionally vague or meta because so many different
> things are implemented as objects of some sort.  It's a catch-all term for
> anything you can gain focus on that may or may not be a control you can
> interact with, but can be examined by the screen reader.  Many objects are
> intentionally ignored when not in object navigation mode because they're
> "just distractions" in a number of circumstances.  But under the newer
> Windows UI the use of objects has increased compared to the old days.  I'm
> still trying to get really up to speed on object navigation myself.  As an
> aside, I believe that the JAWS analogous construct is the touch cursor, but
> I could be wrong on that.
>
> These two references may prove to be helpful:
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> Unravel the enigma of NVDA Object Nav. - COOL BLIND TECH (
> https://coolblindtech.com/unravel-the-enigma-of-nvda-object-nav/ ) (podcast,
> downloadable but also playable on that website)
>
> and
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> NVDA review cursor and object navigation. - HANIF.CO (
> https://hanif.co/dl/NVDA%20review%20cursor%20and%20object%20navigation.m4a )
> (audio presentation previously recorded on June 4, 2020)
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> Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043
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> I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.
> The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression,
> which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the
> clearest indicator of who you are.
>
> ~ Brian Vogel
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