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I thought you with sight would use it a lot. After all to the
sighted users its a daily action and always will be for windows.
That was there main selling point when they first came out with
windows. in fact there is not one OS that don't use that methiod
for moving around in the OS.
On 9/13/2021 3:58 PM, Brian Vogel
On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 03:03 PM, Tim M wrote:
That is just one of the many working bugs both screen
readers have, and either haven't gotten to or just won't fix.
The thing is, I can't necessarily even say it's a bug. Drag and
drop "via the sighted method" is a thing unto itself, where the
thing that has focus and is being dragged moves in real time and
keeps focus throughout the movement until one releases the left
mouse button over the drop zone. If you release that button
elsewhere (anywhere that the thing cannot be dropped) it simply
remains where it had been.
With a screen reader, you have to gain focus, select, and "left
mouse lock" on the object - and these three things are easy - but
then navigate to the drop zone without ever giving full focus to
anything else, and that is very tricky indeed to do, as I've found
out in many other contexts. I have not been willing to play much
with emulated drag and drop because I try, whenever possible, to
avoid the use of drag and drop, particularly when it comes to a
The actual need for drag and drop (as opposed to it being an
option) seems to be fading out somewhat, which is great as far as
accessibility goes. I'd far rather cut and paste, or choose to
upload using an upload dialog, or similar than drag and drop. I
even do this more frequently than actual drag and drop because I'm
often selecting multiple, non-contiguous files and it's very, very
easy after having done so to lose that selection if your mouse
pointer is even the tiniest bit outside "the grab zone" for the
collection of files. I'd rather hit CTRL + X, get to where I need
them to go, and hit CTRL + P.
Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version
21H1, Build 19043
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