Re: Problem to anounce some menu items

Dave Grossoehme

Afternoon:  Bryan you are correct that no item is read in Thunderbird with Shift + F10 key stroke.  I was reading your message in Thunderbird, so, I pressed the key stroke you spoke of.  You have to arrow up or down once before an item in the menu is spoken.  This is with the version of NVDA that came out within the last few days.


On 9/14/2021 2:44 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 05:17 PM, bering.p wrote:
I'm not sure if it's the same isue but  when Itype "shift+f10"  with focus on desktop,
NVDA says "context menu" but the first submenu is not announced.
And, based upon what I can see (literally) this would be the expected behavior.  If one has focus on the desktop itself, and not a shortcut or file on the desktop, when the context menu is opened no item in the context menu has initial focus, so there is nothing for NVDA to read to you other than the fact that the context menu is open.  You start having items announced once you begin arrowing through.

This seems to be the case for the context menu in general when invoked either on the desktop with no item selected, or with an item selected.  There is no focus on any specific item in the menu initially, and first focus only occurs once you begin the traversal process.

I don't have Thunderbird installed on this machine, but I do seem to recall that certain menus under Thunderbird behave similarly in that when they appear nothing in the menu itself has focus until you begin moving through it.

While this menu presentation is very far from "dirt common" it's not unheard of, either.  And it's somewhat analogous to what you see, too, in that visually nothing is selected in those menus when they pop-up.  Until and unless you click on something, nothing has focus and no action will be taken if you just hit enter or click anywhere except on one of the menu items.  If you do either of those two things the menu just disappears.

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

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