Re: How do I Stop NVDA from saying Blank when I arrow down in a document or email


David Griffith
 

Just to explain why read to end is not, as is often suggested,  really a resolution for this issue.

If I am reading and email with say multiple links of 200 characters or more, or obscure graphic descripters, or perhaps obscure table layouts if you need some table verbosity, the last thing you want your screenreader to do is to tediously babble through all these  verbose elements of an email in a read to end sequence.

You need  in these circumstances to quickly skip through all this by simply pressing the down arrow to read through an email efficiently and skip all the verbose link / elelment description whilst being aware it is there if you need to go back and review.

 

David Griffith

 

 

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From: Gene
Sent: 04 October 2021 02:18
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How do I Stop NVDA from saying Blank when I arrow down in a document or email

 

It should be able to be done but is there a reason you don’t use read to end in e-mails?  Read to end doesn’t announce blank lines and starts reading the text skipping all blank lines if there are any.

 

Also, what program are you using for e-mail and are you reading mail in plain text or HTML?

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2021 7:11 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] How do I Stop NVDA from saying Blank when I arrow down in a document or email

 

Thank you for bringing this up! It’s something that frequently irritates me but because it tends to happen during the midst of my work day, I forget to jot it down as a thing to explore here on the message board after work.

What would really be ideal is an option in NVDA settings that would cause the NVDA cursor to simply bypass blank lines. Sometimes when trying to read an email in outlook I have to press the down arrow well over a dozen times just to get to the first non-blank text. Control down arrow is supposed to take you to the next block but this doesn’t work, either. There’s no Practical reason why a user would want to sit there pounding the down arrow like a trained monkey just hearing the word ”blank” over and over and over LOL. it’s a mindless but seemingly unavoidable waste of time.



On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:47 AM, JOHN RIEHL via groups.io <REALMAN02@...> wrote:



Very interesting. Where do I go in NVDA to do this? If this is an elementary question I apologize; I'm a new user.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan COHN via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 1:45 PM
To: Gene <gsasner@...>
Cc: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How do I Stop NVDA from saying Blank when I arrow down in a document or email

 

Hello,

rather forcing blank to be changed in pronunciation using a regular expression dictionary entry might be useful.

^ is the beginning of line in regular expressions.

$ is the end of line in regular expressions.

* in regular expressions means 0 or more of the previous character or pattern

So:

^ *$

should match a line with just spaces in it.  ( note there is a space between the ^ and the * , also note you might want to turn on all punctuation to read my descriptions above, I can't be sure on this computer how much of NVDA reads of the above special characters.

Jonathan

 

 

On Oct 2, 2021, at 11:38, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

 

I don’t know what accounts for the difference.  While others may know of another solution, you can use the speech dictionary so the word blank is never spoken.  But you may not want to do that in case you want to hear it spoken in certain contexts. 

 

Do you need to read moving line by line or can you read whatever you are reading using read to end.  If you use read to end, blank lines aren’t spoken.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2021 10:00 AM

Subject: [nvda] How do I Stop NVDA from saying Blank when I arrow down in a document or email

 

I'm just getting started using NVDA at home and at work. About the only issue I'm having so far is that, on my work computer, when I'm arrowing down a document, either in Outlook 2016, Word, or in a web application that uses Firefox or chrome, I can't get NVDA 2021-2 to stop saying "blank" whenever I encounter a blank line. I have punctuation and symbols  set to none, and NVDA is set not to echo typed characters. Strangely, this isn't happening on my home computer using Office 2019 programs and, as far as I know, I have NVDA configured the same way.

Anybody got any suggestions?

 

Thanks for the help.

John Riehl 

 

 

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