Re: Equivalent to Jaw's Screen Echo


David Goldfield
 

My only disagreement with Steve’s description is that when you set the JAWS screen echo to “all” it does not automatically speak the contents of the screen.

This is not particularly detailed but here is the relevant description taken from the JAWS help system:

Screen Echo

This option allows you to select what information is echoed when text on the screen changes.

  • Off: Changes to displayed text are not echoed.
  • Highlighted: Changes to highlighted text are echoed. This is the default setting.
  • All: Changes to any displayed text are echoed.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 3:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Equivalent to Jaw's Screen Echo

 

Hi Quentin,

 

Essentially, it does exactly as described earlier down the thread.

 

When you enable it, it echoes the whole screen once. Then it monitors for changes and echoes them.

 

This is very useful for accessibility testing. It’s probably not a mainstream feature that everyone could use, but it would be helpful to have it.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 06 October 2021 22:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Equivalent to Jaw's Screen Echo

 

Perhaps what would be helpful here would be for someone familiar with the Jaws feature, to please describe how it works for the user?  Ok, so I'm a user, I have a program which doesn't seem to be accessible, I launch this feature.... what does it do?

 

With a number of features, it may be that there is a solution to a problem, and it may or may not be identical to the way Jaws does it, and I think sometimes we get stuck on "this is what Jaws does, I want it to work the same", rather than "this is the problem I'm trying to solve, is there a solution"?

 

On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 2:42 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 10:07 AM, Gene wrote:

Not having both of these options imposes limitations that should be discussed unless there is a technical reason that they can’t be implemented.

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Gene,

There are multitudes of things that could, potentially, be implemented but that are not because the need for same is so infrequent and/or other things have higher priority.  I say that not as a criticism of you, but in reaction to an observation that's often repeated that has the underlying belief that because someone, somewhere, once in a blue moon might be able to use a feature that it should be implemented.  That's not always the case.

And in an instance such as this one, it makes way more sense to pursue accessibility improvements through the developers of the apps, rather than having the screen reader(s) workaround what is clearly bad to non-existent accessibility in the software design itself.
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