Re: what next
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I guess no matter what, we’ll always need sighted assistance in something to do with the computer’s BIOS. I won’t even touch it. I’ll get a sighted person who knows what to do in the bios.
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Sent: October 20, 2021 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] what next
The optacon is dead. Long live the Optacon.
Back in the day there was a way to route some bioses of some boxes
over a serial port--I believe the name of the product was Weasel or
similar--but there is no device I know of that works better for this
than an Optacon in the hands of a proficient user. Unfortunately, the
first sentence of this message is sadly applicable.
On 10/20/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 07:32 PM, Arlene wrote:
>> I hope in the future blind users can go in there with Nairator.
> Not likely.
> What folks who use screen readers, as they currently exist, need to
> understand is that they are application software. Mind you, a very
> specialized application, but still an application. The operating system
> (whether Windows or any other one) must be up and running at least to a
> certain point before any screen reader can come online.
> UEFI/BIOS occur in the boot sequence well prior to Windows (or other OSes
> such as Linux) ever being kicked off for loading. While it would be
> conceivably possible to have a dedicated screen reader for that environment,
> and if memory serves a prototype was once made, long ago, it certainly would
> not be Narrator, NVDA, JAWS or any other screen reader as end users know
> them. And it would also very likely have commands strictly limited to the
> environment at hand, which means it would be very different in that way,
> And, as you mention, even if you were to have a screen reader of some sort
> available to navigate UEFI/BIOS, you still have to be very, very certain
> that what you're doing is precisely what you intend to do and that what you
> intend is actually what needs to be done to achieve the result hoped for.
> If you can have this certainty, then go for it, otherwise, get assistance.
> And this is completely separate from your visual status. Most of my sighted
> clients have no idea that UEFI/BIOS even exists nor how to interact with
> it. It's just not something most end users ever need to touch.
> As far as turning off "media keys" or whatever a maker might call the
> actions associated with the function keys, lobbying them to create utilities
> such as the one Lenovo already has that allow these to be turned on or off
> from within Windows, or asking for some keyboard shortcut, likely a 4-key
> press to avoid accidents, to do this are both better ideas than a screen
> reader for UEFI/BIOS likely would be. They're safer, too.
> Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043
> *The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.*
> ~ John F. Kennedy
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