Re: nvda and e-mails


Sarah k Alawami
 

I actually never read to end. But go line by line myself at times. I find it easier

To track stuff and the curser seems to track better when I go line by line.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 7:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and e-mails

 

This is an example of where a very small adjustment on the part of the user can eliminate a lot of problems.  Whyile I don’t use Outlook, I expect that opening a message, then issuing the read to end command will eliminate the problems discussed.  That is what I do with both Windows Live Mail and Thunderbird and the entire problems are eliminated in that way.  Issuing the command becomes second nature and automatic after a short time.  Screen-readers exist in complex environments and users will save themselves time and inconvenience by helping them do their jobs if this can be done in simple and easy ways when doing so helps.

 

another example is using the screen-reader find command on a web page.  As soon as my screen-reader starts to speak what it has found, I immediately issue the read current line command.  That reads what has been found and eliminates a lot of irrelevant verbiage.

 

This isn’t necessary when using repeat search but it is with the first search with NVDA to eliminate such verbiage..  It also used to be necessary in JAWS but I haven’t used JAWS in years and I don’t know if the problem was ever resolved in newer versions than I used.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Steve Nutt

Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2021 9:43 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and e-mails

 

Hi,

 

Unfortunately, NVDA doesn’t have the ability to automatically read all Emails when you open them in outlook.

 

If you open an HTML Email, then Say All kicks in, but it still reads the header and all that garbage. If you open a text based Email, then it only reads the first line.

 

That’s why I say compared to JAWS and Narrator, it is horrible to use with Email.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis huckle
Sent: 09 November 2021 13:34
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and e-mails

 

Hello Jean,

Just always read line by line,

Remember I used to use jaws so not as difficult.

However as Mentioned to steve I found its only with certain commercial e-mails I have this problem.

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 09 November 2021 12:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and e-mails

 

If you use read to end instead of manually moving by line, you won't hear blank spoken.  NVDA doesn't announce blank lines in read to end. 

 

Is there a reason you read messages by line, as you appear to read at least some?

 

Gene

On 11/8/2021 8:41 AM, dennis huckle wrote:

I have Microsoft office.

When using nvda to read e-mails unless I use the browser to read them in nvda, not jaws, lots of blank lines appear in the e-mail received.

Is there a way of reducing the number of blank lines whilst reading an e-mail.

Also some e-mails close when using nvda.

This, as mentioned doesn’t happen in jaws.

Any suggestions welcome.

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 

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