Re: NVDA's handling of checkboxes especially in Google Chrome


Because if it's out of focus, NVDA doesnt know you wish to click it.
It, like me, bombed telepathy 101.

It's always good practice, if something doesn't work as expected, to
use keystrokes like shift+backspace or NVDA+backspace to move focus to
where it should be. Sometimes, even NVDA + f5 to refresh the site can
help bring things back to rights.

On 11/15/21, Tyler Zahnke <programmer651@...> wrote:
Well, then why doesn't NVDA say "clicked" when a clickable element is
clicked? One time my focus was out of focus and my enter key didn't
click it.

On 11/15/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 12:27 PM, Jackie wrote:

Truthfully, I don't think the vast majority of web devs know the
difference between clickable elements & checkboxes.

Even though his comment is meta-NVDA, I'll say not only is your
accurate, but it's more than just checkboxes.  In the last couple of
it's become all the rage to present links not with click through text or
navigation structure, but such that they look identical to a button to a
sighted user.  The only way I know that many of these are links instead
buttons is that I've accustomed myself to looking at what shows up in the
browser status bar when I hover on them.

For someone such as myself, who tutors those new to screen readers,
how insane it was when that practice started, unnanounced, and I'm
"Navigate to the {insert what's presented here} button and activate it,"
when it wasn't a button and if the button quick navigation was being used
try to "bounce over" to it you'd never land on it.  Let us simply say
neither I, nor my students, were thrilled about this development.  Even
though I know about it, I'm still not.  Masking one type of element as
another is just not a good idea from purely a design perspective.


Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

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