locked Re: Tutorial On Using NVDA Single Letter Navigation to navigate faster than even a sighted person


Gene, the truth is that browsers try very hard now to ensure that can
no longer happen. I too have been a victim of such malware. I was on a
reputable site getting an dietary exchange list for a diabetic
patient--& I had current antivirus software running. All kinds of
untoward stuff happened back then, simply because cybersecurity was
not a priority. It still really isn't as much as it should be--one
only has to read the headlines to figure that out--but browser
developers know what havoc this sort of thing can wreak, and they now
do everything they know of to try to stop at least that sort of
activity in its tracks.

On 12/13/21, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Of course, a good antimalware program or programs with realtime protection
may stop such activities but I wouldn’t want to take a chance to download
material I can download with no risk.

I should add that I may not have been using a current antivirus program when
the malware was downloaded to my machine perhaps fifteen years ago.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 5:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial On Using NVDA Single Letter Navigation to
navigate faster than even a sighted person

I’ve seen cases many years ago and I experienced one myself where just an ad
opening automatically downloaded malware to my machine and I did nothing.
From what I’ve read, I don’t think these ads can be necessarily stopped nor
that they rely on interaction.

I would use an actual download program such as was discussed earlier.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 4:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial On Using NVDA Single Letter Navigation to
navigate faster than even a sighted person

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 03:21 PM, Gene wrote:

Regarding this site [www.mp3-now.com], does it have advertising? If so,
do good ad blockers block advertisements from the site?
Yes. Probably some of them, but you do occasionally get a pop-up ad, and
almost all of these can be closed with a hit of the ESC key with zero
interaction with them. If you ever get an ad that will not close with
either ESC (more common) or ALT + F4 (if it's in its own dedicated window)
then you should NOT EVER interact with it. Close the browser tab or brower
window in which it's open.

Ads that will not allow easy and conventional dismissal without interaction
should always be considered as malicious and you need to do whatever is
necessary to avoid any direct interaction with them, up through and
including shutting down or restarting your computer. If you have Fast
Startup enabled then definitely do a Restart. It's seldom necessary to go
that far, but particularly malicious ones that may do multiple pop-ups that
make it impossible to outrun them. You're generally still going to end up
OK provided you do not interact with any of the chaos.

I haven't encountered something like the above in a long time, but I have
encountered many instances where an ad served up by a website itself can
evade ad-blockers, but all of those have allowed the use of Escape to
dismiss them.

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

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