locked Re: GMail Basic Setting With NVDA

Howard Traxler

Which is focus mode and, of course, the other is browse mode?  One makes a sound like a cash register and the other makes a simple beep.  At the cash register sound is when you can type into an edit box.  After the beep, you can use shortcut keys and arrows, etc., to navigate.  But I don't know the name for which mode.


On 12/17/2021 12:44 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

No, you are supposed to go into focus mode then you can use the key strokes such as * a and * x or what not  to select stuff. It’s like twitter’s g n and g h to navigate, all of this in focus mode.

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Dan Beaver
*Sent:* Friday, December 17, 2021 9:08 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] GMail Basic Setting With NVDA

I have tried to use the standard view and have tried using the shortcut keys they publish.  however, I can't get the shortcuts to work. When I press them I get no response and no action from Firefox on the google page at all.  I have tried them on the gmail page as well.

Are the shortcut keys supposed to be combined with some other keys or something?


Dan Beaver

On 12/17/2021 10:58 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Yeah j  for next, k for next, * plus a for select all, number  for
move to j junk. If you hit the ? you will get a list of keys. Read
with all punctuation on so you can get the one I posted. It is
actually a very good experience.

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* Friday, December 17, 2021 6:47 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] GMail Basic Setting With NVDA

You learned shortcut commands to use your e-mail program.  Do you
complain about that?  This is a case where a site is serving as an
e-mail platform and, of course, it is to one’s great advantage to
learn certain shortcuts.  And the shortcuts may have been
intentionally designed to be similar, where possible and
practical, to those typically used in e-mail programs.  Perhaps
alt r is reply.  That’s very similar to control r.

While I don’t often use e-mail in web interfaces, it is a logical
assumption that you would learn the small number of shortcuts such
as compose, reply, and a small number of others that you would use
regularly.  And if you don’t want to learn a shortcut you don’t
use often, you can get to what you want in other ways.  For
example, there may be a shortcut to go to the trash folder.  What
if I don’t know it?  I can use the screen-reader’s search to
search for trash.  But if I use the trash folder often, it would
be to my advantage to learn the shortcut.


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*From:* Dzhovani <mailto:dzhovani.chemishanov@...>

*Sent:* Friday, December 17, 2021 8:37 AM

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*Subject:* Re: [nvda] GMail Basic Setting With NVDA

Life is too short to learn every website's preferred way to use
their product. If GMail cannot use HTML as intended, I'll
pointedly use something else. My limited brain capacity is
reserved for stuff where remembering 20 unique key combinations,
there effects, and side effects actually matter.

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)

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