Re: NVDA Features feedback


I too, have problems where when firefox crashes, (& it seems to be
increasing in frequency of late) that I lose speech & cant navigate
anywhere. Sometimes Narrator helps, but there have been times when I
couldn't even get the computer to go down using keystrokes like
windows d, alt f4, & enter, which should, by all rights, cause the
computer to shut down. Again, it's hard to know whether this is a
problem w/NVDA, whether NVDA is somehow contributory but not
necessarily causative, or just Firefox, & since most of us on this
list actually *need* NVDA or some other screen reader to operate our
machines, it's not something we can really test.

It's good to get confirmation that others are having this problem,
because sometimes you think you're the only 1 & that the issue may not
be worth reporting. Unfortunately, the crashes are kind of random, ie,
it's not like you can give a step-by-step recipe to replicate it. So
whereas you can report having a problem, you can't provide steps to
reproduce it, & it's therefore likely to be relegated to the "sounds
like it's your problem" bin.

On 12/18/21, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
If that is the case, I’ll use Firefox as it is unless the problem gets much
worse. I find history to be very valuable to use in Firefox for reasons I
won’t go into here and I don’t want to lose it.

I’m not sure if we are talking about the same problem. Are you talking
about a general slowdown? I’m not discussing that and I haven’t seen it
happen due to updates. I’m talking about certain very specific sites that
take perhaps a minute or more to load, evidently the time is taken by the
page being loaded into the browse mode buffer, not into Firefox itself. A
lot of sites load as expected.

When you have a slowdown, do you clear the cache?

-----Original Message-----
From: Gtt North Bay
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2021 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Features feedback

Hi Gene and all,

Regarding the firefox and NVDA issue you are having, I don’t think it is an
NVDA issue. I had the same problem with my old laptop running 2021.2 and now
on new laptop don’t have that problem so will say it is firefox with all the
updates over time tends to slow it down, so I would say uninstall firefox
completely and do a fresh up to date install and that may fix the problem.


Brian B.

From: <> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: December 18, 2021 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Features feedback

This is not such a problem. I’m writing about it because Firefox has this
problem on this or that site but other browsers don’t. My Internet speed is
fast enough not to be a problem. I’m curious to see if others who use
Firefox and NVDA have this problem. If so, this is, presumably, a problem
with how NVDA interacts with Firefox since if Firefox had this problem on
its own, all sorts of complaints by users would have been sent to Mozilla.
My guess is that the page loads fine in Firefox but takes a very long time
to load in the browse mode buffer, though I haven’t tested that. I may do


-----Original Message-----

From: enes sarıbaş

Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2021 10:00 AM


Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Features feedback

Sites that take a long time to load usually are a problem with slow
internet, usually DSL. If you have an internet connection faster, around 50
mbps or more, most websites will load instantly unless you have heavy
latency. And this is a problem on an 8 core processor, and have experienced
it ever since I used NVDA many many years ago.

On 12/18/2021 9:56 AM, Gene wrote:

This may be a problem on your specific machine. This doesn’t happen to
me. I don’t recall if I have to get out of the window to have speech but I
can get speech if I do something like go to the desktop.

I’m using Windows 7 but I doubt that matters.

However, I’d be very interested to know if this other issue is a problem
others have or if it is related to using Windows 7 with NVDA and Firefox.
There are some sites that take a very long time to load, perhaps a minute or
more. There is nothing wrong with the sites.


-----Original Message-----

From: enes sarıbaş

Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2021 9:49 AM


Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Features feedback

I have another request for NVDA new features. Firefox support needs a
major overhaul. When Firefox crashes, NVDA shouldn't become unusable too.

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