But this is a problem with one add-on.  I'm not saying it isn't sending capital letters and I wasn't questioning that.  I was saying that we don't know why this problem is occurring since we don't know of any other cases where it is.  I am also saying that I very much doubt that the synthesizer itself generally announces cap because if it did, this would be such a serious bug that no one would buy it and we would have heard about this a long time ago.  And only two  reports doesn't tell us if this is a general problem or not.


Gene

On 1/25/2022 4:00 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

Hi Gene,

We do know, because if we look at speech viewer, we can see that NVDA is still sending upper case letters, even when caps is off. The solution for all synths would be, in my view, to send all single letters as lower case, when this option is turned off.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 21 January 2022 17:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA announcing Capital letters

I don't think we know enough about the problem to do more than speculate.  I doubt this behavior occurs when Vocalizer is used not with the add-on.  So what is it about the combination of Vocalizer and the add-on that causes this problem?  Also, since we've seen only something like two reports of the problem, we don't know if it is a general one.


And since a lot of people use a synthesizer like Vocalizer for reading and a synthesizer like Eloquence for work, we don't know how many people are affected by the problem.  Is the problem only reported by two people because a lot of people don't use Vocalizer in ways where the problem would show up or is it not a problem for most users?


Gene

On 1/21/2022 10:55 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

It is part and part.

When the synth sees an upper case letter, it says the word capital, which is correct of course.

Even if you turn off capitals in NVDA, it still throws upper case letters.

So the fix in NVDA would be that NVDA should send all letters entered via the keyboard as lower case irrespective of their case, if that setting is switched off.

In this case, I think the synth is right, and NVDA is wrong, but what do I know.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: 20 January 2022 14:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA announcing Capital letters

I contacted Code Factory and they said it was a NVDA issue. So I don't think anything will be done anytime soon to fix the problem.

On 1/20/2022 12:17 AM, Marilyn and Don Bilderback wrote:

Hello,

I have the beep option checked but I get no sound when I type.

    I try to use the tone option, but   can’t seem to choose the   right
numbers so I can use that method. I don’t hear   any change in tone
when caps are typed.

I do not like the word caps spoken as I can’t hear what I am typing.
What am I missing?

Marilynn

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