Re: I've really managed to mess up my Thunderbird


I forgot to indicate in my last message that I was responding to Brian's message.  I had meant to remove the messages below mine as well.


On 5/3/2022 12:24 AM, Gene wrote:
Also, it is not true that you can't install an add-on from a file you have downloaded in a browser.

In the add-ons section of Preferences, if you tab around, you will see a button that says something like tools for all extensions and it is a menu.  If you press the space bar on it, you will see an item in the menu that says install add-on from file.

Press enter on it and, as i recall, a typical open dialog will appear which you can use to install the add-on.


On 5/2/2022 11:52 PM, Gene via wrote:
An excellent demonstration of why I keep recommending use of Thunderbird Portable.  I'm not saying this can't be corrected but if Thunderbird Portable were being used, all that would have to be done is delete the version of Thunderbird being used, and paste a backup of the program that you would keep current so you can replace the copy you are using and not lose new things such as settings, or if you are using an MP3 account, messages.

You would copy the folder to the location where you have the copy of the program you usually use.


On 5/2/2022 10:27 PM, Larry Higgins wrote:
Well, for some reason, my message pane wont go on or off by pressing F8, and when I run across it in the view menu under the layout heading it says not available, but checked. That is a weird one indeed, at least I think so.

Someone mentioned that I might have a setting turned on in preferences that messages should show like Web pages, but I still have to check that one out.

OK, I went and tried to find that Web page option, and think I may have found it, but it made no difference. Woe is me.

I'll probably just have to go sleep on it, and maybe something will come to me.

Thanks, and please let me know if any new ideas occur to you all.

On 5/2/2022 9:25 PM, Richard Kuzma via wrote:
Good evening,
Sounds like you got your email view set to something like a web page view.
There are settings in the preferences for that.
If you cant find it , I will check it here and let you know.
Sorry for being general but might be a start.

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Larry Higgins
Sent: Monday, May 2, 2022 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I've really managed to mess up my Thunderbird

OK, please permit me to either clarify, or muddy the waters, as well as your understanding about this mess I've managed to create for myself.

I am not suggesting that this happened due to anything to do with the
addon, only that was what my major preoccupation at the time happened to be.

The real problems seem to be these, that I can't simply begin reading a
message from the top, but have to tab around to begin to be in any
position to hear any of the message read to me at all. the screen looks
more like a web page than a message screen.

Also, I cannot reply to any message unless I tab down to the reply and
press enter on that link. I cannot reply by using the ctrl+R key. Just
down right weird.

I just want my normal presentation back. I am pretty sure that it is the
same one that the rest of you are using.

I also hope I'm not replying to the wrong message, but to myown.

OK, I'll stop now before making an absolute ass of myself.

I'm sure there must be a solution, but be it far from me ...

I don't seem  to be able to bring up anything like browse mode in this
situation, but I can still  work with it with my Edge created Google app.

On 5/2/2022 8:20 PM, Larry Higgins via wrote:
Oh Listers,

While playing trying to install an addon, I have managed to completely
mess up the view/presentation in Thunderbird. In other words, I no
longer get the usual presentation of the message body, where I can
immediately begin reading, but a whole lot of clutter about threads,
an dconversation and such when I tab through the message  trying to
locate the message body. This is the same no matter what screen reader
I might use.

When I press enter on a message, I can no longer just arrow down
through it, nor use read all to read it. Nothing but silence until I
tab, and finally run into the message body by using a combination of
tab and arrow keys.

I have tried all kinds of views, as well as  to get back to normal by
moving from simple HTML, original HTML, as well as plain text, but no
go. I can find nothing like default settings to fall back on.

I am using Windows 10, and of course NVDA, and have also tried working
with JFW, but with no success.

Please help!,



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