Re: Header issue with Bookshare and BARD pages, my bad

Sarah k Alawami

Lol. We all mess up. I've been running lists since 2005 and I still fudge. I'm glad you got your problem fixed.

Happy Monday.

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Larry Higgins
Sent: Monday, May 9, 2022 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Header issue with Bookshare and BARD pages, my bad

Yep Sarah, we all make mistakes. And I'll be honest. I've been using email, and have been a light participant in email lists for nearly 30 years, and I should have known better than to do what I did. I probably should have started an entirely new thread by saying something like "I made a booboo" or something of that nature. I'm sure glad there isn't a jail for miscreant like me <smile>.

On 5/9/2022 8:54 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I think of it like this, and I've told people on several lists. What you did is called hijacking a thread, that is a big no no for those of us using email clients as it creates a mess. I don't tolerate that on any of my lists. I don't mind doing the dirty work, but it makes my life easier when all 300 or so people follow the rules of, just don't do it. Now it's back to cleaning up a mess I made when I hosed something I should not have. Lol!

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Larry
Sent: Monday, May 9, 2022 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Header issue with Bookshare and BARD pages, my bad


All points well taken. If only this were a more perfect world.

Unfortunately, when one is thinking only (and selfish though it might be), of a solution to their immediate problem, they aren't for the most part, thinking so considerately, they just want a solution, and they want it as soon as possible. But nevertheless, you have made some very good points, and sure, we should all keep these in mind when pursuing an answer to a problem.

I guess one way in which we could think of these problems and their ultimate solutions would be kind of like a saga, or at least that's some times the way I think of them, especially when the subject has peaked my interest. I will, from here on out try to be more considerate in the future.

And if I think I might know how to search for the answer to a specific issue in the archives, I should probably take advantage of it. However when it came to this one, I'm not quite sure how I would have gone about it. Maybe type in the word "header" and search through all of the entries, and maybe I would have gotten lucky <smile>. But at least, with all of those willing to provide their kind help, we got to the bottom of it.

Have a good evening,


On 5/9/2022 7:08 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
Hi Larry

You wrote:
The primary reason for changing the subject line was not to annoy
you or anybody else
It's not that I was personally annoied. It's that the practice of
starting a new message thread is annoying. I will explain.

If anyone reading the list archives in a month or a year finds that
message thread via a web search or whatever, they will now have no
idea how it turned out, because the resolution is on a completely
different thread that they won't know anything about. Well, unless
Brian goes through the trouble of merging the two threads, which is
never guaranteed.

Imagine that they are having the same problem, and thinking "oh
great, I'm finally going to get an answer". They read through all the
messages in the old thread, waiting to get to the one with the answer.
Only they will be frustrated by just falling off the end without any
resolution because the resolution has been kept from them by being
put in some other thread, which they aren't reading.

A mailing list is a community. Sure you (the general you, not just
Larry) are asking for help for your particular problem, but you are
also potentially helping anybody else who is having that problem. And
because of list archives, you are helping anyone who might have it in
the future. Please think of that time-smeared nature of mailing list
exchanges, any time you are posting.

The solution to your little niggle today, could be the google search
result that saves somebody's job in five years!

End rant. :)


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