Re: Excel and sort data

Cearbhall O'Meadhra



I would be happy to add my experience to your submission. What is the GitHub code for your entry?



All the best,




m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...



From: <> On Behalf Of William
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2022 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Excel and sort data


Cearbhall, I think you can also add your comment to the github discussion which I have posted earlier.


Cearbhall O'Meadhra 11/5/2022 17:44 寫道:

Quentin and William,


Step 7 describes what I experience every time when sorting a document in excel.

I am using Office 2016 in Windows 10 and latest NVDA – all latest versions.


This is a noisy and unnecessary babble of information. I always press the left alt key to silence it so that I can actually hear the options in the next drop down box.


I can also replicate this when I move away from the spreadsheet to another application and swing back again with alt+tab. This generates the full text that William describes.


The elements I hear are:

1.The Sheet title followed by the addition of "dash Excel"

2. Then "unavailable"

3.Then "Sort dialog, Sort widnow"

4. Then "Data Grid"

5. Then "Sort data Item 1 of 1"

6. Then "Order combo box, smallest to largest collapsed"


If I do not change the three boxes, "order by" "sort on" or "order", I do not get this echo as I tab from combo box to combo box.

However, as soon as I activate any one of these  combo boxes, I get the full whack of all six elements described above when I tab away from the combo box.


If I keep the alt key pressed when I press alt +tab to return to the Excel window from another application window, I hear the sheet title plus "dash Excel" but no mention of "Unavailable". However, when I let go the alt key, I then get the repetition of the Title and all six parts of the announcement.


This is an awful lot of verbiage and it has no value to me as a user.


All the best,




m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...



From: <> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2022 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Excel and sort data


I can replicate the first part - although just to confirm, the data itself is still read, it's just that you get the extra unnecessary list box list item information as well, correct?


For the next part, step 7, I couldn't replicate that, but maybe I was doing it slightly differently.


Would you be able to write it up at please?


Kind regards




On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 10:03 PM William <xsuper.sillyx@...> wrote:


1. Open any excel file

2. filled the worksheet with some data with the first row as the header

3. select all existing data by ctrl +a

4. go to data tab, press sort button

5. tab to any of the dropdown menu

6. press up or down arrow, every time when I press up or down arrow, nvda
will say list box  list xxxx

7. after I have selected one of the item and press tab, nvda will repeat
the name of the current worksheet and says excel unavailable, followed
by the next item.

Would you please comment on whether this is a nvda or excel problem? Thanks.





Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Join { to automatically receive all group messages.