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- for the third time, filling out a PDF
Re: for the third time, filling out a PDF
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I think it still happens in the foreground, but Adobe Reader
allows the parent window to be focused (where the document content
appears), but the dialogue showing progress is in the middle of
the screen. The only way to get to it is by moving the mouse to it
as far as I know. The parent window isn't frozen; you can do
things like hit f6 to jump around it and stuff. NVDA just says
`unknown` when you change focus to the reading area when it's
You can test this by enabling mouse tracking; it may be helpful
to enable the tones feature describing the position of the pointer
to help with finding location. Moving it to the left outside the
progress dialogue and clicking changes the focus from the
dialogue, and moving it back into the dialogue to click in it
changes the OS focus back to it so you can find the cancel button
with the keyboard.
This is easier to test with a really large pdf file; I used the
Brother MFC-L9570CDW user guide , which is over 700 pages.
On 5/20/2022 6:50 PM, Brian Vogel
On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 07:12 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
Are you saying that "preparation delay" no longer
happens, but that it is effectively happening in the background?
The way I'd phrase it is that the preparation is no longer done in
the foreground, keeping you from accessing the document until that
prep is complete. This, of course, involves a wait.
Now it seems that it is being done asynchronously, with no dialog
at all, where the user has access (as in can interact with - but
not in any useful manner) with the document prior to it having
been prepped such that the screen reader has a clue about what's
what. That's way more unhelpful than "the old way."
I've never dealt with fillable PDF using other than Tracker
Software's PDF XChange Viewer, which is nowhere near to fully
accessible to a screen reader user, or Adobe Reader (in various
versions). When the document to which Bob gave the link opened in
Vivaldi (another Chromium based browser) I was not able to
interact with it with a screen reader in any meaningful way, as it
remained silent as fields were traversed.
Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version
21H2, Build 19044
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