Re: Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements


Argh. I guess I'll remember that for next time. I didn't know if automatic would work, and when I googled how to set up Thunderbird with Yahoo I found  tutorials that said you need to do it manually. Then OAuth2 wasn't in the list of security options when setting up my account, so I had to force create the account with normal password selected and then fix that after the fact in the settings, but I had to unplug my router first so it wouldn't try to connect. When you get the error message, NVDA loses focus from Thunderbird and there's no way to get it back. Thanks for helping Keao out Gene, and for your good suggestions.

Shawn Klein

On 6/13/2022 2:29 AM, Gene wrote:

If the automatic works properly, you don't have to know anhy information such as port settings.  If you are still having performance problems such as the slow mail downloads, you could either check the information on the web site or try the automatic feature.  I use automatic unless it doesn't work properly and, as I said, it usually does.


On 6/13/2022 2:12 AM, Keao Wright wrote:

I used it manually, but I guess I could try the automatic.

On 6/12/2022 9:04 PM, Gene wrote:
Do you use the automatic setting up of accounts in Thunderbird?  I do and it usually works well. 


On 6/13/2022 2:02 AM, Keao Wright wrote:

Ok, sounds good!

Thanks for the suggestions!

I think I must have had the desktop coppy running on the wrong port that's why I thought itw as slow on getting emails.

On 6/12/2022 8:58 PM, Gene wrote:


On 6/13/2022 1:55 AM, Keao Wright wrote:

ah ok, thanks Gene!

Does nvda work with HTML emails ok?

On 6/12/2022 8:52 PM, Gene wrote:
No, just reply.  That is determined by how the list is set up.  Most lists don't require using reply to all.


On 6/13/2022 1:51 AM, Keao Wright wrote:

Lets see, at the time when I replied back I was using outlook.

Do you use reply to all when you send a message back to the list?

On 6/12/2022 8:48 PM, Gene wrote:
Since others see your name, whatever the cause, you don't need to worry.  I see this:
Keao Wright

On 6/13/2022 1:39 AM, Keao Wright wrote:

It only said my email address, not my name.



From: <> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements


Does it say both your name and e-mail address?  What about when you get mail from others?


On 6/12/2022 11:36 PM, Keao Wright wrote:

Ah interesting.

Is there a way to not make it say the email address when I sent out a test message to myself?


From: <> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements


Perhaps it is checked by default.  I never had to change the setting.


On 6/12/2022 8:25 PM, Keao Wright wrote:

Hello Gean and all.

I got it fixed!

Turns out I had the thread view unchecked.

Now the add on can see the columns.


On 6/12/2022 3:22 PM, Gene wrote:

That's right.  I was thinking about the other add-on, which is a Mozilla add-on.  It allows first letter navigation in the folders tree view and it is included in the copy of the program I sent.

You could try uninstalling and installing Thunderbird again and the NVDA add-on, but just using the portable version would, I think, be a better solution.


On 6/12/2022 7:44 PM, Shawn via wrote:

Thanks Gene. You mention an addon that's included with the portable Thunderbird, which app is that? Mozilla Apps enhancements is an NVDA addon, not a Thunderbird addon, so not sure if that's the one you're talking about. My friend is on the list and watching this thread, so we'll see if she has any luck with it.

Shawn Klein

On 6/12/2022 5:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Here is the correct link.


On 6/12/2022 5:22 PM, Gene via wrote:

I sent the wrong link.  I'll send the properly modified version to Dropbox and send the correct link later today.


On 6/12/2022 4:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Since I don't know what is causing the problem, there are two things I will suggest, though I don't know if either will help.  I am confident my second suggestion will and I don't know about the first, but I consider the first to be an inferior choice.  You might consider running the portable version for the reasons I give below, as well.

Uninstalling and reinstalling the program is one and the other is trying Thunderbird portable. 

There are one or two minor or very minor things you can't do with the portable version but in general, it does everything the installed version does.  In addition, if the program ever becomes corrupted, you can have a back up copy and just delete the one you are using, then copy the backup to the location where you keep the one you use.

And you can use the program from an external drive or copy it to any computer you wish and use it.

Here is a link to download an old version of the program with the add-on already installed and the from line already displaying at the top.  The program will automatically update after it has been placed on the machine but even if the add-on doesn't work, the program may need nothing changed.  I expect the add-on to work, however, since it did in this copy on my machine.
Its a portable program so unzip the files wherever you want and, when in the folder, type t to get to Thunderbird.exe.  Press enter to run the program.  You can also send a shortcut to Thunderbird.exe to the desktop and create a short cut command to run it that way if you wish.


On 6/12/2022 4:00 PM, Shawn via wrote:

Hi, I just installed Thunderbird yesterday, got the afore-mentioned addon, and had no problems moving columns opening the dialogue with NVDA+H, though I got the no column headers found error once until I made sure I was in the message list. Today a friend decided to get Thunderbird as well, just installed the addon, and gets the message column headers not found. I remoted in and tried matching some of her view menu settings to mine, but still can't get the column headers dialogue on her machine. Being in the message list or even in a specific message doesn't help. Rebooting NVDA and Thunderbird didn't help. We're both using the latest Thunderbird and NVDA with Windows 10. Any settings she needs to change to get this to work? She wants to move correspondents to the top of the list just like I did. Thanks.

Shawn Klein







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