Probably a final word at this time:
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First, when moving with the Brave browser, stay in browse mode and
down arrow through the form.
Also, I thought I had figured out how this form might be used, but
it may be unusable. There is no can't find a time button and no
dialog to enter your name and e-mail address. I didn't press the
submit button when using the brave browser to see what happens. You
can try and maybe you will be asked for the information, which would
appear to make the form usable.
On 6/30/2022 4:50 AM, Gene wrote:
more information. I just tried this using the Brave browser. I
suspect the results would be the same or similar in any
Chrome-based browser. I saw a lot more fields and checking check
boxes with the space bar works. But be careful you understand
what you are checking. You seem to see different dates and days
of the week, such as Wednesday, July 13 and check boxes for
Evidently, Firefox doesn't see most of the check boxes. All I can
say is experiment and it might be a good idea to have a sighted
person look at the results of what you are doing to see if what
seems to be happenning is, that is, are you checking the times for
the date you think you are?
On 6/30/2022 4:31 AM, Gene wrote:
is a correction and another minor correction.
On the button that places me in the wrong field where I said
that returning to it and repeating the command many times
changes the state of the check box, that doesn't work. Do the
When you are moved to the wrong field, tab back to the actual
check box. Use the numpad insert numpad plus command once on
the check box. You will hear check if it is unchecked. Then
shift tab to the button and use the double click command, NVDA
insert NVDA enter issued very quickly the same command you have
been using. That works, or it did the two times I tested it.
the minor correction is that at times, issuing what I'm calling
the double click command only once works with other check boxes.
On 6/30/2022 4:20 AM, Gene wrote:
This way seems to work. It may sound involved but it may
sound a lot more involved than it is. I hope it works for
you. I did this using my Windows 7 machine, Firefox and
NVDA. You can see if it works on your system with whatever
browsers you want to try.
It appears I figured out how to get the check boxes to check
and uncheck, but I don't understand why this works and why
another thing doesn't work. Try the following:
Tab around and be on something you want to check. Turn off
browse mode. You will find a button and a check box, both for
the same thing. If you use keyboard commands, nothing will
You will find that if you are on a check box, using the
default action command, numpad insert numpad enter, you will
hear check if the box is unchecked and uncheck if the box is
checked. However, if you then look at the state of the check
box, you will find it unchanged.
Instead, work with the button associated with the check box,
which is a shift tab back from the check box.
Use the same command, numpad insert, numpad enter.
Issue the command twice quickly, as though you were double
clicking a mouse. Check the check box by tabbing once to it.
This doesn't work the first time, at least not usually. Shift
back to the button and Issue the double click command again
and check. If that doesn't work, issue it a third time,
going back to the button to issue the command every time.
This usually works for me after the second or I think
sometimes the third time I issue the command.
As you tab, after you have checked whatever you want, you will
find a button that says cannot find a time. Press the space
bar on it and a dialog will come up to fill in your name and
e-mail address. Fill in both fields and tab to the appropriate
button. I don't recall what it says but use it to submit the
I noticed on one of the fields in this form that when I would
double click the button, it moved me to a completely different
field, moving me backward. but if I kept tabbing back to the
right button and double clicking it, after a number of times,
the check box was checked.
This is such a ramshackle way of doing things because of the
odd now it works and now it doesn't nature of what is
occurring that all I can say is these methods or about these
methods work when I try them on this form. You may find you
need to experiment but I'm not at all sure anything else
While this is hardly ideal, it seems to let you do what you
want in filling out such a form. I have no idea if you can
create one successfully.
On 6/29/2022 10:10 PM, Mary Otten
didn't include an example, because I thought they were all
the same, and I didn't want people to accidentally enter
things on an unrelated poll. However, here is the poll I was
having a problem with:
On 6/29/2022 8:06 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
Mary Otten wrote:
doodle poll, and I have tried on
firefox and google chrome. And I just don't get it. Are
these things suppose to be accessible? I see nowhere to
Where is the example? I'm sure you meant to include an
example we could try, but it didn't show up.