Re: I've really gotten myself into a pickle.


Sarah k Alawami
 

I doubt a log is going to help in this case.  In theory this should not have happened. Oh well, it’s fixed now, and I learned about safe mode and narrator. So positive things and all.

 

Take care to everyone.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2022 4:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I've really gotten myself into a pickle.

 

Its odd.  I wonder if the log has any useful information.  Perhaps a Windows log would contain the information.  It sounds as though NVDA is blocking UAC from receiving the yes or no command, which is certainly unexpected.  And since NVDA is actually running at the time and blocking UAC, I suspect might leave no information in the NVDA log, I wonder where you would look. 

 Gene

On 7/5/2022 6:14 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

No this is only with nvda. And this is only with the X file not the shortcut.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2022 4:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I've really gotten myself into a pickle.

 

When I want to run something as an administrator, I use the context menu.  I haven't done this enough to be sure, but I think if you are on the program name, such as in the start menu search results, that if you open the context menu, you will find run as administrator.  You might want to change the short cut if you always want the program to run as an administrator but I suspect that often, people don't want to do this.  I use the context menu because I generally don't want a program to run as administrator except when I tell it to.

Does the bug occur then or only when you run the exe file itself as an administrator?  If this is a bug regarding NVDA, I think it should be corrected but is it, or is this a problem that happens with other programs as well? 

Gene

On 7/5/2022 4:59 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

I'm still intrigued why you went in to find the exe file and changed its properties rather than the shortcut?  I must admit I rarely enough need to elevate a program's privileges that I think the subtlety of changing one vs the other might be lost on me, but I would have thought most people launch NVDA from a shortcut (desktop / start menu / taskbar - even using control+alt+n is generally set to one of these) - and therefore my automatic reaction would be to change the rights of the shortcut.

 

We really don't recommend running NVDA (or anything unnecessary) with admin privileges and I expect that perhaps the way NVDA passes things to itself so if you have changed the shortcut and windows wants to ask if you are sure every time NVDA wants to do that, then this is what happens - I'm not sure we could even stop that - you've told Windows you want NVDA to run with elevated privileges - I don't think we can overrule that and de-elevate the program's privileges....  It's not something NVDA would be looking for in any case.

 

On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 12:42 AM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

You could not do this with this nasty bug. Looks like someone might need to put this on github as if some unsuspecting user might do this and be up until 11 PM like I was.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2022 4:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: hiRE: [nvda] I've really gotten myself into a pickle.

 

                Can you get to NVDA.Exe in Program Files X86 using fileExplorer and access the properties using alt+Enter?

 

Even though it  may not be regularly used it’s always useful to have the NVDA shortcut available.

 

Cheers

                Chris

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From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 05 July 2022 05:51
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I've really gotten myself into a pickle.

 

I can’t. It looks like my only option is going to have to be to boot into safe mode. I literally cannot access anything beyond that dialogue!

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Jackie <abletec@...>
Sent: Monday, July 4, 2022 9:41:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] I've really gotten myself into a pickle.

 

Then check the shortcut that's running it.

On 7/4/22, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
> I would, if I could get to the desktop. But I can’t! I’m literally stuck in
> a loop in terms of the run time thing that keeps coming up even when I know.
> And I don’t have a desktop shortcut. I got rid of that thing yesterday.
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> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Jackie
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> Sent: Monday, July 4, 2022 9:27:43 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [nvda] I've really gotten myself into a pickle.
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> Sarah check your nvda shortcut properties by pressing alt+enter on the
> desktop shortcut. It should indicate it's running under admin
> privileges. Delete that piece & you should be good. It's under
> compatibility tab, btw.
>
> On 7/4/22, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
>> Hello to all. I had an ad don  which was not working so I decided to try
>> and start nvda with admin privileges. Bad move. Now UAC keeps  asking
>> me if I want to make change's. No matter if I hit yes, no, restart my
>> system, I cannot get this dialogue to go away.  I really don't know what
>> to do now.
>>
>> I have a new computer running windows 11 home so I took my portable copy
>> and installed nvda  from there. All went well until I tried to use
>> resource monitor. It didn't work, no keys worked so I figured to try
>> this and now I am in trouble. Is there no way I can get this dialogue to
>> go away, or I can in8install nvda somehow outside of windows? I don't
>> want to reformat as I just got this thing  set up. I can't even do a
>> system restore as this UAC screen is taking over my system and will not
>> go away. Help? I can't even run any diagnostics or anything. I guess I
>> found a disadvantage to UAC. I like it but right now I am hating it as
>> it won't go away. You would think it would but no.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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