I don’t know that they have advanced so much.  The best combination of Word processor and screen reader still is ASAP and word 5.1 (I still have a laptop that runs both and use a DecTalk Express s with it) There are a lot of combinations like that that far out strip using things like NVDA and Word and or Jaws and word.  I would almost call it a twostep.  In many cases we take two steps forward and one step back.  In some cases it’s the opposite we take 1 step forward and two back.    Using command line shells like telnet was much better than it currently is with Jaws and NVDA only because the MsDos screen readers let you configure the command line apps like Pine much better.  Now days it is harder to use things like pine and  editors in the shell unless you just switch to Linux and use speakup for the command line.   Oh well I am sure I am showing my age in this post I just wanted to say I don’t think Screen readers actually have advanced that much.

On Sun, Jul 24, 2022 at 05:20 AM, Gene wrote:

I'm not sure this is the place to go into at length how much screen-readers have advanced since they first came out but they have advanced enormously.

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