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That's true, but unfortunately Eloquence Japanese also spells
every word. You'd have to switch languages again. I think there is
or was an addon that lets you quickly switch back and forth
between 2 without plowing through the ones in between.
On 7/26/2022 12:43 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward
No, but for learning, that is tolerable, and they are free.
It's not like Eloquence, which I'd have to pay for in either
form. But Eloquence as an NVDA Addon direct can at least have
its inflection adjusted. No wonder it sounds so flat on some
peoples' YouTube streams, if they're running it through Sapi...
On 27/07/2022 3:31 am, Shawn via
You can't adjust inflection with one core voices either.
On 7/26/2022 12:20 PM, Sharni-Lee
If I use Sapi5, doesn't that mean I can't adjust
inflection? I don't like that idea very much...
On 27/07/2022 1:40 am, Gene
would suggest getting the SAPI5 Eloquence version, not the
add-on. You can use the SAPI5 version with any
screen-reader that supports SAPI5 and you don't have to
worry about which version of NVDA you use it with. NVDA
supports SAPI5 regardless of version.
You can try a demo to see if it does what you want. If no
one gives information soon about where to get a demo, I'll
On 7/26/2022 10:33 AM,
Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
Actually, while I'm thinking about it, how much is
the Eloquence addon? And is it a one-time payment? I
know Jaws is subscription-based now (at least, I think
that's what the deal is, and last I heard you had to pay
for new updates, which I always thought was a d*ck
move), but is the Eloquence addon by itself a one-time
payment? If so, I may consider investing in it
for circumstances such as this.
On 25/07/2022 7:10 am,
Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
Eloquence is paid and I don't like it anyways, that's
not an option for me. I dunno how, if at all, those
packs would help, and I don't want to change synths.
Anything without inflection settings (including most
paid synths) sounds woeful to my discerning ears.
On 25/07/2022 6:30 am, Shawn via groups.io wrote:
The question is did you switch
ESpeak's language to Japanese. With some synths, they
just won't work with Japanese or some other foreign
alphabets at all unless you add language packs in
Windows. I just opened a Japanese Wikipedia page with
the following results. Japanese Eloquence read it in
Japanese. ESpeak Japanese read Japanese letter this,
Chinese letter that. You may want to check out this
page about installing language packs in Windows, or
find a synth that will work without them.
On 7/24/2022 12:58 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
The New Releases page said
that Japanese was added to Espeak as well as the
packaged Braille Tables. I want to learn Japanese (I
started learning in school, then left school, and
that was a good fifteen years ago now), and just
found out the browser version of Duolingo is
accessible with NVDA.
However, I've checked with a couple things (I'm a
part of a number of anime fandoms), and NVDA doesn't
switch to Japanese when reading passages, instead
continuing to say "Japanese-letter" several times,
or if I'm scrolling over it, "Japanese-letter" plus
several numbers that I suppose are it's unicode
designation? But anyways, it is not reflecting the
addition of the language bank in Espeak NG. And I
know the ProTalker addon has not been compatible for
years, though even if it were, there were some weird
pronunciation issues with even that.
Is there something I am missing here?