No, but for learning, that is tolerable, and they are free. It's not like Eloquence, which I'd have to pay for in either form. But Eloquence as an NVDA Addon direct can at least have its inflection adjusted. No wonder it sounds so flat on some peoples' YouTube streams, if they're running it through Sapi...

On 27/07/2022 3:31 am, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

You can't adjust inflection with one core voices either.

Shawn Klein

On 7/26/2022 12:20 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:

If I use Sapi5, doesn't that mean I can't adjust inflection? I don't like that idea very much...

On 27/07/2022 1:40 am, Gene wrote:

I would suggest getting the SAPI5 Eloquence version, not the add-on.  You can use the SAPI5 version with any screen-reader that supports SAPI5 and you  don't have to worry about which version of NVDA you use it with.  NVDA supports SAPI5 regardless of version.

You can try a demo to see if it does what you want.  If no one gives information soon about where to get a demo, I'll check. 

Gene

On 7/26/2022 10:33 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:

Actually, while I'm thinking about it, how much is the Eloquence addon? And is it a one-time payment? I know Jaws is subscription-based now (at least, I think that's what the deal is, and last I heard you had to pay for new updates, which I always thought was a d*ck move), but is the Eloquence addon by itself a one-time payment? If so, I may consider investing in it for circumstances such as this.

On 25/07/2022 7:10 am, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:

Since Eloquence is paid and I don't like it anyways, that's not an option for me. I dunno how, if at all, those packs would help, and I don't want to change synths. Anything without inflection settings (including most paid synths) sounds woeful to my discerning ears.

On 25/07/2022 6:30 am, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

The question is did you switch ESpeak's language to Japanese. With some synths, they just won't work with Japanese or some other foreign alphabets at all unless you add language packs in Windows. I just opened a Japanese Wikipedia page with the following results. Japanese Eloquence read it in Japanese. ESpeak Japanese read Japanese letter this, Chinese letter that. You may want to check out this page about installing language packs in Windows, or find a synth that will work without them.

https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.microsoft.com%2Fen-us%2Fwindows%2Flanguage-packs-for-windows-a5094319-a92d-18de-5b53-1cfc697cfca8&data=05%7C01%7C%7Ce594a98c5f5649b9b50908da6db8ff1a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637942938588515646%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=wI22F3s6GmKeUfXsNNEB9S%2FA9AB83M%2BZLcgwV3FZtuQ%3D&reserved=0

Shawn Klein

On 7/24/2022 12:58 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:

The New Releases page said that Japanese was added to Espeak as well as the packaged Braille Tables. I want to learn Japanese (I started learning in school, then left school, and that was a good fifteen years ago now), and just found out the browser version of Duolingo is accessible with NVDA.


However, I've checked with a couple things (I'm a part of a number of anime fandoms), and NVDA doesn't switch to Japanese when reading passages, instead continuing to say "Japanese-letter" several times, or if I'm scrolling over it, "Japanese-letter" plus several numbers that I suppose are it's unicode designation? But anyways, it is not reflecting the addition of the language bank in Espeak NG. And I know the ProTalker addon has not been compatible for years, though even if it were, there were some weird pronunciation issues with even that.


Is there something I am missing here?