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I should add that control NVDA r is the desktop keyboard setting. I
haven't checked the laptop keyboard setting.
On 8/6/2022 5:19 PM, Gene via groups.io
The only setting dealing with Word that I can see in advanced
settings is this one:
Use UI Automation to access Microsoft Word document controls
Default (Where suitable
There is no off setting in the combo box. There is a setting that
says something like when necessary. That sounds like the setting
that will use UI automation the least.
You don't have to worry about changing the setting. It will
either help matters or it won't. You don't even have to go back
into advanced settings to change it back. If you haven't shut
down and restarted NVDA, just use the command control NVDA key r
to return to the previous setting. It restores the saved
If you think the problem begain with a specific version of NVDA,
the fastest and easiest way to find out if you can stop the
problem by using an earlier version is to run an earlier version
by selecting the run option when you run the installer. It will
run as though it were a portable version and you can test it with
Someone else can tell you how to get the older version you want to
test with. They are all available.
then, if Word performs as you wish with that earlier version,
create a portable version and use it whenever you want and the
installed current version whenever you want.
On 8/6/2022 3:19 PM, Richard Wells
Hi Brian and all: Since my problems also occurred in NVDA
2022.1, I believe them to be related to this change. This
release includes major improvements to UIA support with MS
Office. For Microsoft Office 16.0.15000 and higher on Windows
11, NVDA will use UI Automation to access Microsoft Word
documents by default. This provides a significant performance
improvement over the old Object model access. I am seeing
problems with editing in Microsoft Word in both Windows 10 and
Windows 11. I wonder if there might be a way to fix this in
preferences/advanced. I would not want to change anything in
there unless someone tells me what to change, because I do not
know what I am doing in there.
On 8/6/2022 2:45 PM, Brian Vogel
If you have
not done these already, please first try: The
Most Basic Troubleshooting Steps for Suspected NVDA Issues
After that, if none fixed the issue my next step is doing an
uninstall and reinstall of NVDA itself, always fetching a
fresh copy of the NVDA installer to do so.
If that doesn't do it, then I uninstall NVDA again, purge the
folder %APPDATA%/nvda AFTER having copied off any speech
dictionaries (the SpeechDicts folder) and Profiles I may have
created. I let add-ons get nuked, but you could also back up
that folder as well before deleting its parent NVDA folder in
%APPDATA%. After reinstalling, see if everything is OK. If
it is, then restore those folders - ONE AT A TIME - to the
%APPDATA%/nvda folder, checking whether everything's still OK
after you've restored each one. I haven't often needed to go
this far, but on rare occasion, I have.
All of the above is presuming that the root cause is NVDA. It
never hurts to do an Office Repair Install after the basic
NVDA troubleshooting steps, as on rare occasions it's
something in Office itself. That can save you from the
uninstall/reinstall of NVDA (but not often).
Brian - Windows
10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
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