Re: Unable To Display Status Bar IN Latest Thunderbird Version 102.1.1


Gene
 

There are various ways to deal with heavy traffic lists and you are discussing one. 
I get a lot of messages, though not nearly as many as you.  I usually read them all or most of them because I'm curious and I would wonder if I had missed anything interesting if I skipped some.  There are, of course, things I'm not interested in and I may skip.

Since I don't want to skip most messages, I haven't used methods for managing high volumes of messages.  There are certainly ways of doing so. 

One method I know about and that some people may like is that Groups.io allows you to receive the first message in any thread and then, I'm not sure how, you have to tell Groups.io that you want to receive the rest of the messages sent in that thread.

This is related to your discussion.  I often see people asking about something that has been discussed within the last week or two.  I think it is a good idea for people who don't want to read a lot of mail from various Groups.io lists to use this system.  That way, if they check their messages daily, they would enormously cut down the number of messages they get and at the same time, know if threads they are interested in are starting.

of course, topics often drift from the original topic and the thread continues so this system will cause you to possibly miss discussions of that sort you would be interested in but it would allow people to know about many discussions they might miss if they don't follow the list much because of the high volume of messages on a particular list.

Gene

On 8/10/2022 10:53 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:

hi Gene,

I'm sorry about sounding a bit coarse, but I am on a lot of lists. I enjoy learning new things. Obviously on heavy traffic lists, I don't read every message.  But using my method of grouping and filtering, I can literally get between 1000 and 2000 messages daily and spend between an hour and an hour and a half total in going through them. 

Now i don't know how many times, I have gotten e-mails to heavy traffic lists from people who say things like: "hasn't this thread gone on long enough" or "moderators please close this topic."  When I contact them, I find out that they have all their messages going into the inbox and don't know or could care less about filtering and grouping.

I guess what I'm saying is that people who won't/can't learn about such things should be on heavy traffic list or if they are they shouldn't complain about the heavy traffic.

...And before, I get booted from this list, let me say that's about all I have to say about this topic--since it definitely isn't about NVDA.


On 8/10/2022 11:17 AM, Gene wrote:
I don't group messages in that way.  Its interesting to see that use of the status bar.

Gene

On 8/10/2022 9:33 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Curtis,

If you filter messages and if you group by conversation, reading the status bar is a quick way of determining how many messages are in a particular folder and how many are unread.

This is very helpful if like me, you have 17 mailing lists you are subscribed to and want to select and read only those messages from each list you are interested in.


On 8/10/2022 9:02 AM, brice Mijares wrote:

What is the importance of a status bar in TB?

On 8/10/2022 5:59 AM, Gene wrote:
No.  The issue now and in perhaps more than one earlier version is that when you issue the read status line command, NVDA key end, it isn't read and the announcement no status line information found, or something very similar is spoken.

Gene

On 8/10/2022 1:16 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

Hi, was saying I can disable it or enable it, I thought that was the issue in the earlier t-bird.

On 8/9/2022 9:46 PM, Gene wrote:
Are you saying the read status line command reads it and when does it read it, when it is checked or unchecked.  It shouldn't be shown if it is unchecked and it shouldn't be read.

Gene
On 8/9/2022 11:43 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

I get the message "unchecked."

On 8/9/2022 9:31 PM, Gene wrote:
If yew mean in the tool bars submenu of the view menu, it is checked by default and when I read the status bar, I get the message no status bar information.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 11:22 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

but, that is what I am using, NVDA, and it is enabled in latest t-bird.


On 8/9/2022 9:12 PM, Gene wrote:
I tried both and it isn't read using NVDA.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 11:05 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

they updated so status bar you can under the view menu enable or disable. 102.1.2.

On 8/6/2022 7:59 PM, Gene wrote:
This may be something NVDA will have to update.  The status bar is still read when using JAWS.  Whether Thunderbird or NVDA should correct the situation is something I'll leave to the two sets of developers.

Gene

On 8/6/2022 9:40 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

Has anyone upgraded Thunderbird to the latest version 102.1.1?  If so, can you read the status bar?  I cannot on my system: Windows 11, 64 bit with latest NVDA 2022.2.


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