On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 04:38 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:

I still hate ribbons for this reason on Microsoft.

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And every time I hear this I think, "So freakin' what?!"

Ribbons are here to stay, period, and they are simply a menu system that uses a slightly different structure.  And keyboard shortcuts have nothing whatsoever to do with whether you're using a ribbon interface, menu interface, or neither of the above.

There are only so many key combinations under the sun, and because different programs need to do all sorts of different things it is inevitable that there will be reuses of the same keyboard commands in different contexts.

It is long, long, long past time that the perpetual whining, and that's what it is, about the Ribbons interface is called out for the inanity that it is.  It doesn't matter if you like it or not, or if I like it or not.  It's the interface we have and must learn to use, regardless of our respective visual status.  Get over it!
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

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