Re: please help again with PDF

Betsy Grenevitch

Sorry for writing again but I believe the ad-on is already downloaded so I will work on it over the weekend if not sooner using the notes that were sent. They are going to be very helpful.

On 9/8/2022 3:53 PM, Betsy Grenevitch via wrote:

This is going to be very helpful but is there a direct  link to the ad-on? I have never been great with websites with a lot of links. Thanks again for this great information.

On 9/8/2022 1:31 PM, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi Betsy

The NVDA add-on called NAO is very useful with PDF’s, I used it to read the solicitors documents for my daughters divorce, so I know it works well.  Below is the Help text taken from the add-on which explains how to use the features.  I hope it can b of use to you.





Nao - NVDA Advanced OCR

• Authors: Alessandro Albano, Davide De Carne, Simone Dal Maso

• Download stable version

• NVDA compatibility: 2019.3 and beyond

Nao (NVDA Advanced OCR) is an addon that improves the standard OCR capabilities that NVDA provides on modern Windows versions. While NVDA standard command uses Windows OCR to recognize the screen, NAO is able to make the OCR on files saved on your hard drive or USB devices. Use NVDA-Shift-R to recognize any sorts of images and pdf! Simply put the focus / cursor on the file you desire, don't open it, but hit NVDA-Shift-r. The document will be recognized and a simple text window will appear, allowing you to read the entire content, save it, find text or copy content to clipboard. Nao is able to handle also multipage pdf, so if you have a not accessible document, don't worry, Windows OCR will be able to make the entire work.

System Requirements

The addon works on Windows 10 and Windows 11 systems, since they have OCR capabilities builtin. Nao is compatible from NVDA version 2019.3, so don't use older versions of the screen reader. Note that Nao works with Windows Explorer, on desktop, with Total Commander or xplorer² filemanager; don't use other software like 7zip or Winrar, since they are not supported.

Features and commands

• NVDA + Shift + R: recognize any sorts of images and pdf from file system;

• PgUp / PgDown: move the cursor between real pages of a multipages document.

• Ctrl + S: save the document in nao-document format. You can open it again with NVDA + Shift + R.

• P: report page number related to the cursor position, in a multipage document.

• L: report line number at the cursor position, related to the current page.

• Shift + L: report line number at the cursor position, related to the whole document.

• G: go directly on a certain page.

• C: copy all text to the clipboard.

• S: save a copy of the document in text format.

• F: find text and read some words before and after the string.

• NVDA + Shift + Ctrl + R: take a full screen shot and recognize it.

• Please note that you can use standard NVDA commands to explore window and bring focus to an element. For example you can move with arrow keys and press enter in a button to activate it. You can also bring the mouse to your position with NVDA-numpad slash and then click with left/right keys.

Note that you can customize shortcuts of Nao simply from the input gestures dialog of NVDA. Open NVDA menu, go to preferences, and from that submenu select input gestures dialog. Remember that this feature is not global, but it works only where Nao can make an ocr. So gestures will appear only if you are in the desktop, or in file explorer, Total Commander or Xplorer.

You can also abort a long Ocr process simply pressing "Cancel" from the progress bar window; this window also gives you information about the state of the OCR, updating informations every 5 seconds. You can configure how to receive progress bar information with the standard NVDA-u command.

You can find a submenu named Nao, under the NVDA - Tools - menu. For the moment it contains only an item that allow you to make a donation, but we will improve that with new features!

Support and donations

Nao is absolutely free. Anyway, please remember that this addon is made during spare time of developers. We'd appreciate any contribute that you could give us! If you think our work is good and improve your life, a Consider to make a donation.

Do you want to report a bug, suggest new features, translate the addon in your language? We have the email for you! Just write to support@... and we will be happy to help you.



• nao-document file format save and load capability.

• A documents cache can store the recognitions to speedup next time opening. If a file is found in the cache it is not recognized again but the cached version is opened instead (recognitions parameters must match).

• Store the last reading position of a document in the cache metadata.

• Auto purge for documents cache.

• Manual cache clear in tools menu.

• A file can be now recognized directly from a windows explorer "compressed folder".

• Better invalid files check.

• Better Windows Explorer compatibility using different file selection alternatives: first try with Shell.Application in NVDA, then try Shell.Application in PowerShell then fallback to manual browse.

• OCR engine keeps the language setting during the whole recognition process even if it is changed during a multi-page recognition.

• OCR queue to recognize from multiple sources.

• Hotkey PgDown at the last page of a document goes to the end of the document reporting the line number.

• Windows temporary folder is used for file converters tools instead the plugin folder (better performance on NVDA portable).

• Romanian translation and update of the simplified chinese translation.


• Support for DjVu file format.

• Support for multipage tiff files.

• PDF encoding bug fix for operating systems in chinese language.

• Manual addon update under the NVDA - Tools - menu.

• Compatibility starting from NVDA 2019.3.


• Automatic addon update.

• Spanish and French translations updated.


• OCR of pdf and images are presented in a new text window, with some hotkeys for simple operations.

• Support for the Xplorer filemanager.

• Nao shortcuts are customizable from the Input Gestures Dialog of NVDA.

• Nao works only where possible, so if you are in a not supported window, the hotkey will be ignored by the addon; this solved an important issue where Excel and Word users couldn't press the NVDA-Shift-r keystroke, since it was incorrectly intercepted by Nao.

• A long Ocr process can be aborted simply pressing the "Cancel" button on the progress bar window.

• Added Turkish, Russian, Spanish, Chinese and French translations.

• Users can make donations to the project.

• Fixed a bug with some characters on the file name that prevents the Ocr to work properly.


• first public version!


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From: Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: 08 September 2022 04:15
Subject: [nvda] please help again with PDF


I wrote to this list about a week ago, I think, asking how to convert a

scanned PDF and someone wrote me back with a place to go. I went to it

and used it and thought the file had saved but it has not. I also

thought I had written down how to do it but cannot find those

directions. I know it was some place I had to go on the internet. I hope

the person is still on here who sent that to me the other week. This

time I will doubly make sure I have the directions in more than one place.



Thanks for the help of whoever sent it or someone who may have saved it.

I even looked in my trash folder for it but cannot find it.



Sorry to bother you all with it again.



this is a file I need for my Lions Club.



Thanks again.





Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876






Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876
Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876

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