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Re: controls on one line

Bob Cavanaugh
 

I've just taken a look at all messages in this topic, and yes, you
want screen layout off. This IMO is a setting that should be off by
default, as NVDA is the only screen reader I've used that displays
controls inline by default, and I can never remember the name of the
setting to change when I get a new computer, which is about every
three or four years.
On a related question, there appear to be some webpages that ignore
this setting, and I'm not sure why. The best example I can think of is
any of the external links from radio station articles on Wikipedia.
Even with screen layout off, the links for Neilson, the FCC database,
and Radio Locator are displayed inline.

On 10/6/22, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
running latest NVDA on a win 11 system. Forgot where the setting is to
have each control on a separate line versus on same line.
Thanks






Re: controls on one line

Sam Bushman
 

I think you want browse mode - support screen layout when available - turn that either on or off.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 4:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] controls on one line

running latest NVDA on a win 11 system. Forgot where the setting is to have each control on a separate line versus on same line.
Thanks


Re: controls on one line

Louise Pfau
 

On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 04:59 PM, Don H wrote:
so if you want each control on a separate line do you want it on or off?
 You want it off.  I just checked to make sure.  I set mine the way I wanted it a while ago.

Louise


Re: controls on one line

 

This should provide your answer. I had forgotten.


Use screen layout
Key: NVDA+v
This option allows you to specify whether browse mode should place clickable content (links, buttons and fields) on its own line, or if it should keep it in the flow of text as it is visually shown. Note that this option doesn't apply to Microsoft Office apps such as Outlook and Word, which always use screen layout. When screen layout is enabled, page elements will stay as they are visually shown. For example, a visual line of multiple links will be presented in speech and braille as multiple links on the same line. If it is disabled, then page elements will be placed on their own lines. This may be easier to understand during line by line page navigation and make items easier to interact with for some users.





On 10/6/2022 6:59 PM, Don H wrote:
so if you want each control on a separate line do you want it on or off?

On 10/6/2022 5:56 PM, Governor staten wrote:
nvda+v. It will turn screen layout on or off.




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On 10/6/2022 6:55 PM, Don H wrote:
running latest NVDA on a win 11 system.  Forgot where the setting is
to have each control on a separate line versus on same line.
Thanks












Re: controls on one line

Don H
 

so if you want each control on a separate line do you want it on or off?

On 10/6/2022 5:56 PM, Governor staten wrote:
nvda+v. It will turn screen layout on or off.




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On 10/6/2022 6:55 PM, Don H wrote:
running latest NVDA on a win 11 system.  Forgot where the setting is
to have each control on a separate line versus on same line.
Thanks





Re: controls on one line

 

nvda+v. It will turn screen layout on or off.






On 10/6/2022 6:55 PM, Don H wrote:
running latest NVDA on a win 11 system.  Forgot where the setting is to have each control on a separate line versus on same line.
Thanks






controls on one line

Don H
 

running latest NVDA on a win 11 system. Forgot where the setting is to have each control on a separate line versus on same line.
Thanks


locked Re: Microsoft's New "Ultra Natural" Voices - October 2022

 

This topic is locked after this post.  And, furthermore, the latest Microsoft voices released this month are "off-topic" here until and unless Microsoft announces general availability for third-party programs, of which NVDA is just one.  Rest assured, if that happens, that will be announced here, and then they'd be on-topic again like any other synthesizer that can be used with NVDA is.

But unless a post is made indicating otherwise, the latest ultra natural Microsoft voices are available exclusively to Microsoft's own products such as Narrator, Edge, etc.  There is no API for third-party use at this time.
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locked Re: Microsoft's New "Ultra Natural" Voices - October 2022

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I remember speech Platform which was supposed to be the new way to use their voices, but although this worked with the voices at the time, I found them very slow to respond. I don't think those libraries work on Windows 10, or if they do only with the voices made available at that time.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2022 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] adding the new voices


You're not doing anything wrong. The new "ultra natural" voices are strictly for use in Microsoft's own products. They are not available to third party programs.

If this ever changes, there will likely be quite a bit of fanfare about it if/when it does.
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locked Re: Microsoft's New "Ultra Natural" Voices - October 2022

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Yes I don't think they have written the API for external use yet.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "hurrikennyandopo ..." <hurrikennyandopo@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2022 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] adding the new voices


Hi


Nothing can be done they are only for narrator at the present maybe down
the track we might be able to use them in nvda.


They sound good in narrator.


Gene nz


On 6/10/2022 7:30 am, ken lawrence via groups.io wrote:

Hi list ken here. I just updated to the new windows and there are
several new so called natural voices in microsoft. I can’t seem to
add them to NVDA any suggestions what I might be doing wrong?

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Windows





In-Process is out

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

This week's In-Process is out, a special feature on NVDA 2022.3, a big thank you to our community, with a spotlight on our 2019 Google Summer of Code mentoree Bill Dengler. Plus info on Windows console support & character descriptions. Read more at https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-6th-october-2022/

Quentin.

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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Copying from HTML tables with NVDA?

 

You're quite welcome.  Found it with an archives search on [copy webpage table]

Searching a Groups.io Topics Page/Archive

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Brian Virginia, USA  Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Memory is a crazy woman that hoards rags and throws away food.

         ~ Austin O'Malley


Re: Copying from HTML tables with NVDA?

Luke Robinett
 

Excellent! Thank you, Brian.

Luke


On Oct 5, 2022, at 4:00 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

See message, Tony's add-ons: updates and new features, on the group archive from Tony Malykh.

He added a feature to the Tony's Enhancements add-on to handle just this eventuality.
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Brian Virginia, USA  Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Memory is a crazy woman that hoards rags and throws away food.

         ~ Austin O'Malley


Re: Copying from HTML tables with NVDA?

 

See message, Tony's add-ons: updates and new features, on the group archive from Tony Malykh.

He added a feature to the Tony's Enhancements add-on to handle just this eventuality.
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Brian Virginia, USA  Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Memory is a crazy woman that hoards rags and throws away food.

         ~ Austin O'Malley


Copying from HTML tables with NVDA?

Luke Robinett
 

Whenever I try to copy the contents of a table on a webpage, when I go to paste it into word or a text file, it all pastes sequentially, in other words not as it appeared on the page. If I can navigate by row or column using NVDA, this tells me NVDA can recognize the table structure, so is there a way to copy the table and retain its structure using NVDA? At a minimum, is it possible to select cells vertically so I could copy the contents of a single column? I looked through the docs and did some googling but couldn’t find an answer to this.


locked Re: Microsoft's New "Ultra Natural" Voices - October 2022

Monte Single
 

The new voices are available in win11 for narrator, but not for third party apps like nvda and jaws.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Louise Pfau
Sent: October 5, 2022 3:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] adding the new voices

 

Hi.  I hope we will be able to get them in Windows 11 by the time I need to replace my current Windows 10 machine.  I've heard some of them through the "Read aloud" feature in Microsoft Edge, and they're great.

Louise


locked Re: Microsoft's New "Ultra Natural" Voices - October 2022

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  I hope we will be able to get them in Windows 11 by the time I need to replace my current Windows 10 machine.  I've heard some of them through the "Read aloud" feature in Microsoft Edge, and they're great.

Louise


locked Re: Microsoft's New "Ultra Natural" Voices - October 2022

 

You're not doing anything wrong.  The new "ultra natural" voices are strictly for use in Microsoft's own products.  They are not available to third party programs.

If this ever changes, there will likely be quite a bit of fanfare about it if/when it does.
--

Brian Virginia, USA  Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Memory is a crazy woman that hoards rags and throws away food.

         ~ Austin O'Malley


locked Re: Microsoft's New "Ultra Natural" Voices - October 2022

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Nothing can be done they are only for narrator at the present maybe down the track we might be able to use them in nvda.


They sound good  in narrator.


Gene nz


On 6/10/2022 7:30 am, ken lawrence via groups.io wrote:

Hi list ken here.  I just updated to the new windows and there are several new so called natural voices in microsoft.  I can’t seem to add them to NVDA any suggestions what I might be doing wrong? 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 


locked Microsoft's New "Ultra Natural" Voices - October 2022

ken lawrence
 

Hi list ken here.  I just updated to the new windows and there are several new so called natural voices in microsoft.  I can’t seem to add them to NVDA any suggestions what I might be doing wrong? 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

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