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Re: Thunderbird

Gene
 

I’m guessing but I suspect it is the same thing as another e-mail program might refer to as flagged. 
 
Gene
-----Origial Message-----

From: AKH AKH
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Thunderbird
 

Gene

 

Works well, but what is 'starred' as a column, please?

 

Andrew

 

Thanks,

On 15/10/2021 15:10, Gene wrote:
The command to open the rearrange dialog is NVDA key h.  You are in a list of headers.  Move to the one you want and use the move up and move down buttons.  When finished activate the done button.  Use the space bar on the buttons.
 
Gene
From: AKH AKH
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2021 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Thunderbird
 

Tim

 

I've found Headers in the view menu, but where do I go to find the rearrange headers options, please. I have the add on installed.

 

Andrew

 

On 15/10/2021 13:21, tim wrote:

You can use that add on to move it to the last of the line.

However, don't hit option or it will close that is broke!

 

On 10/14/2021 7:48 PM, Blake Roberts via groups.io wrote:
This TB issue appears to affect quite a few people. Two individuals have asked similar question in the Thunderbird group on groups.io during my membership there. The solution is installing Mozilla Apps Enhancements NVDA add-on:
https://nvda-addons.org/addon.php?id=5
Then use it to rearrange Thunderbird column headers. By columns I mean things such as to, from, subject, junkmail status... The 0 and 100 numbers beside messages are due to Thunderbird junkmail filtering. As I wrote in a recent Thunderbird group thread, my preference is to move the junk column from default location to next to last column. That way I hear "0" before the date/time stamp.

Blake


Re: Thunderbird

AKH AKH
 

Gene


Works well, but what is 'starred' as a column, please?


Andrew


Thanks,

On 15/10/2021 15:10, Gene wrote:
The command to open the rearrange dialog is NVDA key h.  You are in a list of headers.  Move to the one you want and use the move up and move down buttons.  When finished activate the done button.  Use the space bar on the buttons.
 
Gene
From: AKH AKH
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2021 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Thunderbird
 

Tim

 

I've found Headers in the view menu, but where do I go to find the rearrange headers options, please. I have the add on installed.

 

Andrew

 

On 15/10/2021 13:21, tim wrote:

You can use that add on to move it to the last of the line.

However, don't hit option or it will close that is broke!

 

On 10/14/2021 7:48 PM, Blake Roberts via groups.io wrote:
This TB issue appears to affect quite a few people. Two individuals have asked similar question in the Thunderbird group on groups.io during my membership there. The solution is installing Mozilla Apps Enhancements NVDA add-on:
https://nvda-addons.org/addon.php?id=5
Then use it to rearrange Thunderbird column headers. By columns I mean things such as to, from, subject, junkmail status... The 0 and 100 numbers beside messages are due to Thunderbird junkmail filtering. As I wrote in a recent Thunderbird group thread, my preference is to move the junk column from default location to next to last column. That way I hear "0" before the date/time stamp.

Blake


Re: NVDA and math.

Mohammed Al Shara
 

Hi. Thanks for trying. Yes, I have just tried, but no luck. note that NVDA doesn't recognize math content, it just says "graphic, mathtype 6 equasion". It may be helpful to know that nvda reads math in a browser if I publish as math page from math type itself. I doesn't read it in word though. if I stand on any such graphic and press alt + \ it converts it to text but it doesn't read as expected. lots of extra brackets. 


Re: NVDA and math.

John Isige
 

Have you tried Access8 Math? I forget if that works with Word or not, that might just need Math Player and Math Type too.


On 10/15/2021 3:41 PM, Mohammed Al Shara wrote:
Hi.
What is the status of Math player support nowadays? I can't get it to work. I have word 365, I installed math type, and math player. whenever I incounter some math NVDA says "graphic, math type 6 equasion". I made sure "use UI automation to access word" is checked in NVDA's advanced settings. Any idea please?


Re: trouble with speech when selecting text

JinYoun
 

Hi, I've noticed this happening on the groups.io site when I'm replying to a message. I thought this happened in other places too but cannot remember exactly where else this happened for sure. I shut down my pc every night and restarting NVDA with add-on gives me same behavior.
Thanks 


Re: Thunderbird

Gene
 

I just got the latest NVDA add-on.  It works like the previous one.  If you already have selected an item in a the list you are on when you open the add-on, then if you tab to and press the options button, you are in a list you can arrow up and down.  I haven't looked at the list in a lot of detail but one thing you can use it for is to determine what headers are displayed.  You will hear that header fields are checked or unchecked as you move in the list.  Change the state of an item using the space bar.  I've used this list so seldom that I think that is all you do.  As far as I can see, changes take immediate effect and there is no OK button.  You can close it with escape and I think if you tab it will close. 


Gene

On 10/15/2021 3:20 PM, gene wrote:

There is a close button after the options button.  use that  to close the interface.  I don't have the  latest attachment but in the previous version, if you have an item selected and then press options, you can down and up arrow through a lot of options.  If you tab instead, the list will close and you will be back in the program.  I wouldn't be surprised if the latest version works the same way.  It may have been updated for compatibility but no other changes may have been made. 


Gene

-----Original Message-----

I don't have the latest attachment but the previous one still opens a list when you press the button.  You evidentlyhave to be on an item in the first place before options opens a list. 

Gene

On 10/15/2021 1:18 PM, tim wrote:

It puts you in a list. Just arrow to the one you want to move. Then tab to either up or down button.

You can shift + tab back to the list to see how far you moved. Then tab to options and hit enter it use to do more but now it just closes out.

On 10/15/2021 9:13 AM, AKH AKH wrote:

Tim


I've found Headers in the view menu, but where do I go to find the rearrange headers options, please. I have the add on installed.


Andrew


On 15/10/2021 13:21, tim wrote:

You can use that add on to move it to the last of the line.

However, don't hit option or it will close that is broke!


On 10/14/2021 7:48 PM, Blake Roberts via groups.io wrote:
This TB issue appears to affect quite a few people. Two individuals have asked similar question in the Thunderbird group on groups.io during my membership there. The solution is installing Mozilla Apps Enhancements NVDA add-on:
https://nvda-addons.org/addon.php?id=5
Then use it to rearrange Thunderbird column headers. By columns I mean things such as to, from, subject, junkmail status... The 0 and 100 numbers beside messages are due to Thunderbird junkmail filtering. As I wrote in a recent Thunderbird group thread, my preference is to move the junk column from default location to next to last column. That way I hear "0" before the date/time stamp.

Blake


Re: NVDA and math.

Mohammed Al Shara
 

Hi.
What is the status of Math player support nowadays? I can't get it to work. I have word 365, I installed math type, and math player. whenever I incounter some math NVDA says "graphic, math type 6 equasion". I made sure "use UI automation to access word" is checked in NVDA's advanced settings. Any idea please?


Re: Thunderbird

Gene
 

There is a close button after the options button.  use that  to close the interface.  I don't have the  latest attachment but in the previous version, if you have an item selected and then press options, you can down and up arrow through a lot of options.  If you tab instead, the list will close and you will be back in the program.  I wouldn't be surprised if the latest version works the same way.  It may have been updated for compatibility but no other changes may have been made. 


Gene

-----Original Message-----

I don't have the latest attachment but the previous one still opens a list when you press the button.  You evidentlyhave to be on an item in the first place before options opens a list. 

Gene

On 10/15/2021 1:18 PM, tim wrote:

It puts you in a list. Just arrow to the one you want to move. Then tab to either up or down button.

You can shift + tab back to the list to see how far you moved. Then tab to options and hit enter it use to do more but now it just closes out.

On 10/15/2021 9:13 AM, AKH AKH wrote:

Tim


I've found Headers in the view menu, but where do I go to find the rearrange headers options, please. I have the add on installed.


Andrew


On 15/10/2021 13:21, tim wrote:

You can use that add on to move it to the last of the line.

However, don't hit option or it will close that is broke!


On 10/14/2021 7:48 PM, Blake Roberts via groups.io wrote:
This TB issue appears to affect quite a few people. Two individuals have asked similar question in the Thunderbird group on groups.io during my membership there. The solution is installing Mozilla Apps Enhancements NVDA add-on:
https://nvda-addons.org/addon.php?id=5
Then use it to rearrange Thunderbird column headers. By columns I mean things such as to, from, subject, junkmail status... The 0 and 100 numbers beside messages are due to Thunderbird junkmail filtering. As I wrote in a recent Thunderbird group thread, my preference is to move the junk column from default location to next to last column. That way I hear "0" before the date/time stamp.

Blake


Re: Thunderbird

tim
 

It puts you in a list. Just arrow to the one you want to move. Then tab to either up or down button.

You can shift + tab back to the list to see how far you moved. Then tab to options and hit enter it use to do more but now it just closes out.

On 10/15/2021 9:13 AM, AKH AKH wrote:

Tim


I've found Headers in the view menu, but where do I go to find the rearrange headers options, please. I have the add on installed.


Andrew


On 15/10/2021 13:21, tim wrote:

You can use that add on to move it to the last of the line.

However, don't hit option or it will close that is broke!


On 10/14/2021 7:48 PM, Blake Roberts via groups.io wrote:
This TB issue appears to affect quite a few people. Two individuals have asked similar question in the Thunderbird group on groups.io during my membership there. The solution is installing Mozilla Apps Enhancements NVDA add-on:
https://nvda-addons.org/addon.php?id=5
Then use it to rearrange Thunderbird column headers. By columns I mean things such as to, from, subject, junkmail status... The 0 and 100 numbers beside messages are due to Thunderbird junkmail filtering. As I wrote in a recent Thunderbird group thread, my preference is to move the junk column from default location to next to last column. That way I hear "0" before the date/time stamp.

Blake


Re: NVDA error checking for update

brice Mijares
 

Thank you.

On 10/15/2021 7:35 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 10:27 AM, brice Mijares wrote:

How do I rectify this issue?

-
Please review the content of this entire topic, which should be in your email client as a thread/conversation.  But, in case you've been deleting as this entire topic has unspooled in less than the last 12 hours, see the admin notice I posted:

Update Checking Error for NVDA and Add-On Updater - Root Cause Identified, Workaround Given, Problem solved in 2021.3 <https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/88232?p=%2C%2C%2C20%2C0%2C0%2C0%3A%3Arecentpostdate%2Fsticky%2C%2Cadd-on+updater%2C20%2C2%2C0%2C86028599>

As well as Quentin Christensen's message in this very topic: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/88767

It is getting very, very frustrating for me, as a moderator, to constantly see requests for the reposting of material offered within the past 24 hours.  That should never, ever be necessary, and particularly on an emailing list.  Items that recent, even if deleted, should be in your trash folder.  We also have a group archive, and an easily searchable one, for a reason.  The long-time membership should be using it as needed.
--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

*The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.*

         ~ John F. Kennedy


Re: NVDA error checking for update

 

On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 10:27 AM, brice Mijares wrote:
How do I rectify this issue?
-
Please review the content of this entire topic, which should be in your email client as a thread/conversation.  But, in case you've been deleting as this entire topic has unspooled in less than the last 12 hours, see the admin notice I posted:

Update Checking Error for NVDA and Add-On Updater - Root Cause Identified, Workaround Given, Problem solved in 2021.3

As well as Quentin Christensen's message in this very topic:  https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/88767 

It is getting very, very frustrating for me, as a moderator, to constantly see requests for the reposting of material offered within the past 24 hours.  That should never, ever be necessary, and particularly on an emailing list.  Items that recent, even if deleted, should be in your trash folder.  We also have a group archive, and an easily searchable one, for a reason.  The long-time membership should be using it as needed.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: NVDA error checking for update

brice Mijares
 

I am also having this problem. I remember discussion on this topic a few weeks ago, but didn't pay attention as I wasn't affected using my new laptop, but my Lenovo that is about 6 years old encountered this error message when checking for NVDA app updates. How do I rectify this issue? Thank You Kindly.

On 10/15/2021 6:31 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

The actual issue has to do with NVDA not catching the right error when detecting certificate issues.

To Quentin: may I suggest putting the workarounds for this issue in the next In-Process blog post please?

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: nvda and acapela voices

Josh Kennedy
 

no the codeFactory addon is not installed at all. 


Re: Thunderbird

Gene
 

The command to open the rearrange dialog is NVDA key h.  You are in a list of headers.  Move to the one you want and use the move up and move down buttons.  When finished activate the done button.  Use the space bar on the buttons.
 
Gene

From: AKH AKH
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2021 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Thunderbird
 

Tim

 

I've found Headers in the view menu, but where do I go to find the rearrange headers options, please. I have the add on installed.

 

Andrew

 

On 15/10/2021 13:21, tim wrote:

You can use that add on to move it to the last of the line.

However, don't hit option or it will close that is broke!

 

On 10/14/2021 7:48 PM, Blake Roberts via groups.io wrote:
This TB issue appears to affect quite a few people. Two individuals have asked similar question in the Thunderbird group on groups.io during my membership there. The solution is installing Mozilla Apps Enhancements NVDA add-on:
https://nvda-addons.org/addon.php?id=5
Then use it to rearrange Thunderbird column headers. By columns I mean things such as to, from, subject, junkmail status... The 0 and 100 numbers beside messages are due to Thunderbird junkmail filtering. As I wrote in a recent Thunderbird group thread, my preference is to move the junk column from default location to next to last column. That way I hear "0" before the date/time stamp.

Blake


Re: Thunderbird

Daniel McGee
 

Hello Andrew


I'm currently trying out this addon my self. From the instructions pasted here for convenience directly from the addon site.


NVDA+H Displays a dialog in which you can change the order of the columns in the message list.


Also link directly to the addon page for instructions to reference.


HTH



Daniel

Mozilla Apps Enhancements (nvda-project.org)

On 16/10/2021 02:13, AKH AKH wrote:

Tim


I've found Headers in the view menu, but where do I go to find the rearrange headers options, please. I have the add on installed.


Andrew


On 15/10/2021 13:21, tim wrote:

You can use that add on to move it to the last of the line.

However, don't hit option or it will close that is broke!


On 10/14/2021 7:48 PM, Blake Roberts via groups.io wrote:
This TB issue appears to affect quite a few people. Two individuals have asked similar question in the Thunderbird group on groups.io during my membership there. The solution is installing Mozilla Apps Enhancements NVDA add-on:
https://nvda-addons.org/addon.php?id=5
Then use it to rearrange Thunderbird column headers. By columns I mean things such as to, from, subject, junkmail status... The 0 and 100 numbers beside messages are due to Thunderbird junkmail filtering. As I wrote in a recent Thunderbird group thread, my preference is to move the junk column from default location to next to last column. That way I hear "0" before the date/time stamp.

Blake


Re: NVDA error checking for update

 

Hi,

The actual issue has to do with NVDA not catching the right error when detecting certificate issues.

To Quentin: may I suggest putting the workarounds for this issue in the next In-Process blog post please?

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: NVDA and OCR software

Rui Fontes
 

Christo and Cisco, please send to rui.fontes@... a NVDA log...


Rui Fontes


Às 13:42 de 15/10/2021, Christo de Klerk escreveu:

Hi Rui

I have not been able to get the addon to perform OCR on image PDF files. It tells me that the process could take some seconds and after some seconds it says: "Error. The file could not be processed." This happens to all scanned PDF files I have tried. Do you perhaps have any thoughts as to what might cause the problem? This could be such a very handy addon.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2021/10/15 12:00am, Rui Fontes wrote:

The add-on makes the two things...


NVDA+Control+R, in a selected file in File Explorer, makes OCR to the file.

NVDA+Control+shift+R scans a paper document from the scanner...


Rui Fontes


Às 22:51 de 14/10/2021, Dave Grossoehme escreveu:

This is great if you need to scan a document into a PDF.  However, is there any software or hardware/software that will take a PDF with a document that has beeen scanned into the PDF, and make that PDF of the scanned document be able to print.  I can use the windows OCR with NVDA to read the document, but can not print it.  Can you help me here? 

Dave


On 10/11/2021 2:27 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

For a comercial product, FineReader 15...


For free software, NAPS2, with a user interface or command line, and also packaged in an add-on by me, at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ez2r125eilvhzi9/NAPS2TesseractOCR_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1


Best regards, 
 
Rui Fontes  
NVDA portuguese team  


Às 21:27 de 11/10/2021, cisco escreveu:

Hello everyone,

 

I do not know if this is a question better suited for the chat subgroup, if it is, please tell me.

 

If it’s ok to post it here, however, here it goes: if you use any kind of OCR solution that can open and OCR PDFS and acquire images from scanners, what would you recommend for efficient use with NvDA?

 

If that OCR had the ability to keep the formatting and layout of the document, that would be a much needed extra.

 

Thanks for any answer.

Best regards.

Francisco.



Re: Thunderbird

AKH AKH
 

Tim


I've found Headers in the view menu, but where do I go to find the rearrange headers options, please. I have the add on installed.


Andrew


On 15/10/2021 13:21, tim wrote:

You can use that add on to move it to the last of the line.

However, don't hit option or it will close that is broke!


On 10/14/2021 7:48 PM, Blake Roberts via groups.io wrote:
This TB issue appears to affect quite a few people. Two individuals have asked similar question in the Thunderbird group on groups.io during my membership there. The solution is installing Mozilla Apps Enhancements NVDA add-on:
https://nvda-addons.org/addon.php?id=5
Then use it to rearrange Thunderbird column headers. By columns I mean things such as to, from, subject, junkmail status... The 0 and 100 numbers beside messages are due to Thunderbird junkmail filtering. As I wrote in a recent Thunderbird group thread, my preference is to move the junk column from default location to next to last column. That way I hear "0" before the date/time stamp.

Blake


Re: NVDA and OCR software

Christo de Klerk
 

Hi Rui

I have not been able to get the addon to perform OCR on image PDF files. It tells me that the process could take some seconds and after some seconds it says: "Error. The file could not be processed." This happens to all scanned PDF files I have tried. Do you perhaps have any thoughts as to what might cause the problem? This could be such a very handy addon.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2021/10/15 12:00am, Rui Fontes wrote:

The add-on makes the two things...


NVDA+Control+R, in a selected file in File Explorer, makes OCR to the file.

NVDA+Control+shift+R scans a paper document from the scanner...


Rui Fontes


Às 22:51 de 14/10/2021, Dave Grossoehme escreveu:

This is great if you need to scan a document into a PDF.  However, is there any software or hardware/software that will take a PDF with a document that has beeen scanned into the PDF, and make that PDF of the scanned document be able to print.  I can use the windows OCR with NVDA to read the document, but can not print it.  Can you help me here? 

Dave


On 10/11/2021 2:27 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

For a comercial product, FineReader 15...


For free software, NAPS2, with a user interface or command line, and also packaged in an add-on by me, at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ez2r125eilvhzi9/NAPS2TesseractOCR_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1


Best regards, 
 
Rui Fontes  
NVDA portuguese team  


Às 21:27 de 11/10/2021, cisco escreveu:

Hello everyone,

 

I do not know if this is a question better suited for the chat subgroup, if it is, please tell me.

 

If it’s ok to post it here, however, here it goes: if you use any kind of OCR solution that can open and OCR PDFS and acquire images from scanners, what would you recommend for efficient use with NvDA?

 

If that OCR had the ability to keep the formatting and layout of the document, that would be a much needed extra.

 

Thanks for any answer.

Best regards.

Francisco.



Re: NVDA and OCR software

cisco
 

Hello there,

 

I am having a problem with the NAPS2OCR addon: when I press ctrl+nvda+shift+r to scan a document from a scanner, nvda announces that the file couldn’t be recognized, though my scanner is plugged via USB to the pc and turned on.

 

Also, when I press the shortcut key to scan a file and I’m focused on it with file explorer and nvda, it says to wait, that the processing might take a few seconds, and stops there.

 

What could be causing this?

Thanks for any answer.

Best regards.

Francisco.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2021 12:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and OCR software

 

The add-on makes the two things...

 

NVDA+Control+R, in a selected file in File Explorer, makes OCR to the file.

NVDA+Control+shift+R scans a paper document from the scanner...

 

Rui Fontes

 

Às 22:51 de 14/10/2021, Dave Grossoehme escreveu:

This is great if you need to scan a document into a PDF.  However, is there any software or hardware/software that will take a PDF with a document that has beeen scanned into the PDF, and make that PDF of the scanned document be able to print.  I can use the windows OCR with NVDA to read the document, but can not print it.  Can you help me here? 

Dave

 

On 10/11/2021 2:27 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

For a comercial product, FineReader 15...

 

For free software, NAPS2, with a user interface or command line, and also packaged in an add-on by me, at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ez2r125eilvhzi9/NAPS2TesseractOCR_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1

 

Best regards, 
 
Rui Fontes  
NVDA portuguese team  

 

Às 21:27 de 11/10/2021, cisco escreveu:

Hello everyone,

 

I do not know if this is a question better suited for the chat subgroup, if it is, please tell me.

 

If it’s ok to post it here, however, here it goes: if you use any kind of OCR solution that can open and OCR PDFS and acquire images from scanners, what would you recommend for efficient use with NvDA?

 

If that OCR had the ability to keep the formatting and layout of the document, that would be a much needed extra.

 

Thanks for any answer.

Best regards.

Francisco.

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