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Re: Strange problem with a brand new laptop and NVDA

Michel Such
 

Hi Rosemarie,


Strangely, simply upgrading Windows 10 to Anniversary update fixed the problem.

Previously, he tried several times to uninstall and reinstall the problematic softwares without any result.

I guess some component is not installed or not correctly registered in the Windows preinstalled on the computer.


Michel SUCH

michel.such@free.fr
Skype : michel.such
Twitter : @SuchMichel

Le 2016-11-05 à 05:25, Rosemarie Chavarria a écrit :
Hi, Mitchal,


Maybe your friend can try doing a clean install of both firefox and thunderbird. Hopefully that should solve the problem.


Hope this helps.


Rosemarie




On 11/4/2016 2:16 AM, Michel Such wrote:
Hi all,


Here is what happens.

Someone I know has just purchased a new laptop running Windows 10.

He installed NVDA and has problems with Firefox and Thunderbird.

When pressing alt to get to the menus in both applications, menu items are not spoken, NVDA simply says "unknown".

Same problem occurs with LibreOffice menus.

As I never encountered this problem, I would like to know if someone already got this, and what solution was found.

Reading the NVDA log does not seem to reveal any particular problem, so we don't know what to do.





Re: Strange problem with a brand new laptop and NVDA

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Mitchal,


Maybe your friend can try doing a clean install of both firefox and thunderbird. Hopefully that should solve the problem.


Hope this helps.


Rosemarie

On 11/4/2016 2:16 AM, Michel Such wrote:
Hi all,


Here is what happens.

Someone I know has just purchased a new laptop running Windows 10.

He installed NVDA and has problems with Firefox and Thunderbird.

When pressing alt to get to the menus in both applications, menu items are not spoken, NVDA simply says "unknown".

Same problem occurs with LibreOffice menus.

As I never encountered this problem, I would like to know if someone already got this, and what solution was found.

Reading the NVDA log does not seem to reveal any particular problem, so we don't know what to do.




Re: Accessible audio joiner?

RealTalk
 

I hope this is OK. I'll put a link for the one that I use at the end of this message. If you need any help feel free to contact me.

On Nov 4, 2016, at 9:21 AM, Robert Kingett <kingettspeaks@...> wrote:

Hi all! I would like to know if there is an accessible audio joiner out there? I would like to merge multiple audio files.


Re: Firefox alternative?

 

Not sure if it's related, but from my experiences when I started using pinned tabs Firefox begins to be somewhat laggy.


Re: Firefox alternative?

 

I have not used opera but I have not to many addons.
1, f123, useless because I told firefox to not remember history so it seems that requires it.
Webvisum, while old, its free to use and well it does some access.
Navigation sounds for classic sounds and classic themes restorer though I am unsure if that makes differences at all.
Over that, I have ublock for adds, and noscript for scripts, and better privacy for flash.
Plugins wise I have java, flash, and shockwave active, a 3d via for some older games and unity for some newer ones.
I use the mail client thunderbird and bar ublock the only thing I have extra is the google search engine extention.
I am however using win7, on the 10 system, I have google calindar for my dad's calindar, and 2 extentions that intercept bing requests and port them to google apart from all the google internal rubbish for their services that is.
For modern systems firefox is the way to go but you need a good cpu and ram, and a configured system.
Most issues I have had with a computer are config based.
That is everything is loaded from the manufacturer and it works.
No bios or driver updates and a lot of bloat.
Half of the bloat may not be bloat but its not configured right just for basics.
I once had a system that had a virus and so the repair place secured the system breaking it in the process.
It wasn't mine else I would have just done a reformat.
It wasn't so I spent over 24 hours, wripping out all the security systems and repairing windows, clearing the junk and instaling the right software and configuring it.

On 5/11/2016 1:54 a.m., Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
Opera is now based on Chrome. Speaking about add ons, I'm not a heavy user of add ons; I only have a handful of them.


Re: Firefox alternative?

 

Well google chrome is a serious contender if it works, doesn't crash and isn't dumb about things.
Ie google chrome will work as long as its happy with you.
I have it on a 64 bit desktop and it works.
I have also had it work on the old i3 server box I have here.
However I never got it working quite right on my personal workstation.
If its slow, turn off syncing, then do a refresh.
Why do you want more features, the fact ff is doing what it needs to do is fine for me.

On 5/11/2016 12:06 a.m., Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
Hi group,

Does anyone know of a web browser that is a good alternative to Firefox, but still based on the Firefox engine? I've noticed that Firefox has become quite laggy, at least on my desktop, and in recent years there hadn't been any major new features.


Re: Accessible calendaring system

Kevin Cussick
 

there is one I think it is called sun bird or something like this Mozilla makes this I just use my phone now and if I wanted to could use my email program tbird.

On 03/11/2016 22:55, Travis Siegel wrote:
Well, I don'

t know about a stand-alone calendar, (though it'd be easy enough to
write one if one can't be found). There is one built in to thunder bird
that works pretty well. It's not a hundred percent, but it works well
enough to do the job. I've heard the calendar in outlook works well,
but I can't confirm this, as I've never used outlook. Hope this helps.



On 11/3/2016 5:40 PM, Sheri Byrne-Haber wrote:

Hi folks,



Wondering if anyone can make any recommendations for an accessible
events calendaring system that plays nicely with NVDA?



Thanks



Sheri



Sheri Byrne-Haber, JD, MBA, CPACC

Senior Manager, Global Accessibility

McDonald’s Corporation

Digital Services Office

685 Market Street, #590

San Francisco, CA 94105

(650) 703 2376 (cell)




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Re: access keys and key tutorial

Jeremy <icu8it2@...>
 

I'm fairly certain that it does this by default. At least when I've done fresh installs of NVDA, I typically have to turn off the announcement of shortcut keys for things like the file menu in the menu bar, items inside those menus, such as control+s when I move to save file, etc.
I'm not sure weather it works as well in 10 as it always did in 7 for me, as I usually have those options toggled off now, but either way, as a default, NVDA is configured to announce quite a bit as you move through the environment.
I may also be missing exactly what you are asking for though, so my apologies if so.

On 11/4/2016 6:42 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
In a future NVDA I would like to see a verbosity option. Like in jaws if its set to beginner jaws says stuff like menu bar, and leaving menus when you exit menus or a menu bar. When you are in a list view it tells you what keys to press to navigate it, with edit boxes and other controls it does the same thing. This would help new computer users.




Re: NVDA "All things for all people!"

Lenron
 

Plus 1 to Gene's post. This seems like it could be a way to stop
progress, if noone questioned things or asked for more. Would there
really be a drive to do more?

On 11/4/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
I don't think people should censor themselves in terms of discussing
features or criticisms from gratitude. Where should such gratitude prevail
or tone down criticism and where not? I've done many volunteer
presentations over many years on many topics related to blind people using
computers and programs. I most emphatically do not want gratitude to stop
legitimate and civil discussion and criticism of my work. I can't speak for
the developers but I will say that for myself, I find the let's be so
grateful that we tone down or don't criticize position to be disturbing and
counterproductive. Appreciativeness is one thing. Gratitude, if taken too
far, can be distructive.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 7:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA "All things for all people!"


Hello All:

As I read all the various wish list post here on the list I wish to
remind all of our users on this list that NVDA is a project maintained
by a handful of developers and not some big software company like the
other screen readers which need not be mentioned at this time.

There are many of you that at times complain about NVDA being too
slow on your older machines. Do you have an understanding that the
bigger NVDA gets filled with all of your requested features the bigger
it will get and the slower it will become!

For a while now it has been mentioned on this list that users
should be able to have access to more than one screen reader. Even if it
is a demo version because some programs will work better with other
screen readers than with NVDA!

And finally, if you want NVDA to work with older Windows Operating
Systems you need to be realistic in your expectations as far as how many
new features can be added to NVDA that can be supported by older Windows
Operating Systems?

In conclusion: Be grateful for what you have with NVDA! And be
more considerate of the Gentlemen who so willingly/lovingly give of
their time to make NVDA possible for all of us to use!!!



--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com



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Cell: 985-271-2832
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Re: Firefox alternative?

 

Is still make a record of the add-ons you've been using, reset (they may call it refresh) Firefox, then reinstall the add-ons.  That often helps and sometimes significantly.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



Re: Firefox alternative?

Robert Kingett <kingettspeaks@...>
 

You could try many Firefox forks. I have not tried any forks yet but a list of them are in wikipedia. From my run through with Opra Portable, it is not accessible, it seems    


Accessible audio joiner?

Robert Kingett <kingettspeaks@...>
 

Hi all! I would like to know if there is an accessible audio joiner out there? I would like to merge multiple audio files.


Re: NVDA "All things for all people!"

Gene
 

I don't think people should censor themselves in terms of discussing features or criticisms from gratitude.  Where should such gratitude prevail or tone down criticism and where not?  I've done many volunteer presentations over many years on many topics related to blind people using computers and programs.  I most emphatically do not want gratitude to stop legitimate and civil discussion and criticism of my work.  I can't speak for the developers but I will say that for myself, I find the let's be so grateful that we tone down or don't criticize position to be disturbing and counterproductive.  Appreciativeness is one thing.  Gratitude, if taken too far, can be distructive. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 7:53 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA "All things for all people!"

Hello All:

     As I read all the various wish list post here on the list I wish to
remind all of our users on this list that NVDA is a project maintained
by a handful of developers and not some big software company like the
other screen readers which need not be mentioned at this time.

     There are many of you that at times complain about NVDA being too
slow on your older machines.  Do you have an understanding that the
bigger NVDA gets filled with all of your requested features the bigger
it will get and the slower it will become!

     For a while now it has been mentioned on this list that users
should be able to have access to more than one screen reader. Even if it
is a demo version because some programs will work better with other
screen readers than with NVDA!

     And finally, if you want NVDA to work with older Windows Operating
Systems you need to be realistic in your expectations as far as how many
new features can be added to NVDA that can be supported by older Windows
Operating Systems?

     In conclusion: Be grateful for what you have with NVDA!  And be
more considerate of the Gentlemen who so willingly/lovingly give of
their time to make NVDA possible for all of us to use!!!



--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...




Re: Strange problem with a brand new laptop and NVDA

Michel Such
 

Fantastic!


After update to Anniversary version, all works fine.


Michel SUCH

michel.such@free.fr
Skype : michel.such
Twitter : @SuchMichel

Le 2016-11-04 à 11:25, Michel Such a écrit :
Thanks,


He is currently updating to Anniversary Update, let's se if it fixes the problem.



Michel SUCH

michel.such@free.fr
Skype : michel.such
Twitter : @SuchMichel

Le 2016-11-04 à 11:04, Mallard a écrit :
Hello,


Has your friend checked what version of Windows 10 his/her laptop is running?


If it isn't the latest one - 1607 -, he/she should update Windows 10 to that version.


I had friends who had the same problem, and it was automatically solved by updating the OS.


hth, ciao,

Ollie





Il 04/11/2016 10:16, Michel Such ha scritto:
Hi all,


Here is what happens.

Someone I know has just purchased a new laptop running Windows 10.

He installed NVDA and has problems with Firefox and Thunderbird.

When pressing alt to get to the menus in both applications, menu items are not spoken, NVDA simply says "unknown".

Same problem occurs with LibreOffice menus.

As I never encountered this problem, I would like to know if someone already got this, and what solution was found.

Reading the NVDA log does not seem to reveal any particular problem, so we don't know what to do.







Re: antivirus that works with Windows Vista

lali
 

I am preferring Vipre.

It is the best AV.

Lali

 

 

 


Re: Firefox alternative?

 

Opera is now based on Chrome. Speaking about add ons, I'm not a heavy user of add ons; I only have a handful of them.


NVDA "All things for all people!"

Carlos
 

Hello All:

As I read all the various wish list post here on the list I wish to remind all of our users on this list that NVDA is a project maintained by a handful of developers and not some big software company like the other screen readers which need not be mentioned at this time.

There are many of you that at times complain about NVDA being too slow on your older machines. Do you have an understanding that the bigger NVDA gets filled with all of your requested features the bigger it will get and the slower it will become!

For a while now it has been mentioned on this list that users should be able to have access to more than one screen reader. Even if it is a demo version because some programs will work better with other screen readers than with NVDA!

And finally, if you want NVDA to work with older Windows Operating Systems you need to be realistic in your expectations as far as how many new features can be added to NVDA that can be supported by older Windows Operating Systems?

In conclusion: Be grateful for what you have with NVDA! And be more considerate of the Gentlemen who so willingly/lovingly give of their time to make NVDA possible for all of us to use!!!



--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com


Re: Firefox alternative?

 

Have you tried resetting Firefox?  Particularly if you use add-ons or extensions.  I believe Opera was based on Firefox but I have no idea how accessible it is since I haven't played with it in ages.





--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    




access keys and key tutorial

Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>
 

In a future NVDA I would like to see a verbosity option. Like in jaws if its set to beginner jaws says stuff like menu bar, and leaving menus when you exit menus or a menu bar. When you are in a list view it tells you what keys to press to navigate it, with edit boxes and other controls it does the same thing. This would help new computer users.


Firefox alternative?

 

Hi group,


Does anyone know of a web browser that is a good alternative to Firefox, but still based on the Firefox engine? I've noticed that Firefox has become quite laggy, at least on my desktop, and in recent years there hadn't been any major new features.