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new messages still showing up at the bottom of my list

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,


I have decending order checked in thunderbird but the newer messages are still going to the bottom instead of on top. I don't know what to do about this. Would a clean install help?


Rosemarie


Re: Reading .brf books

Pranav Lal
 

Hi,

Use edsharp from empowermentzone to back translate the BRF file.

Pranav

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 2:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Reading .brf books

Hello all,

I have a number of .brf files, not from Bookshare, which I normally read on a
usb pendrive with my Touchme5 braille display.

I'f like to read them on the pc as well, but I have no idea whether there are
any programmes that would open those files, without converting the mto txt with
Wintrans, for example.

Does such software exist?
Thanks, ciao,
Ollie


Re: Saving in MS Word 2016?

Pranav Lal
 

Thanks Brandon. Glad you got it sorted.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 3:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Saving in MS Word 2016?

 

Hello,

Thanks, it's F12.

Two problems with this F12 though:

1. it takes around 10 seconds before the dialogue comes up

2. The dialogue is not announced by NVDA

Thanks,

 


 

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...> wrote:

Press f11 I think.

 

Pranav

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 3:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Saving in MS Word 2016?

 

Hello,

How does one easily save in MS Word 2016 with the keyboard?

If one presses ctrl+s in word 2016, the file menu opens up and the cursor is placed on the save as button. In order to get the brows icon, one needs to press the right arrow and down arrow several times.

Is there an easier way to get this brows dialogue?

Thanks,

 


Re: Reading .brf books

Gene
 

The person said he wants to use a braille display and not have the braille translated.  He wants things displayed in the grade written.  You would want the dollar sign displayed as a dollar sign.  You would know from context if it is a dollar sign or the letters ed.  The person is using a Braille display. 
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading .brf books

Well, grade 2 braille includes contractions like the dollar sign for the letters "ed" in what we used to call US braille at least.  I am  not familiar with braille from other countries and am not very familiar with UEB yet.  In a BRF file notepad displays the dollar sign as a dollar sign.  See what problems this kind of contraction can cause?


Dan Beaver


On 11/15/2016 5:13 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know what is different about grade 2 Braille files.  I thought they were text files because my recollection from using the Braille 'n Speak is that when typing with the translator on, they are just text files.  Evidently, there are some sort of differences I don't know about.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading .brf books

They are not just text files if they are in grade 2 or some other contractional format.  They do not present well in notepad if this is the case.


Dan Beaver


On 11/15/2016 3:37 PM, Gene wrote:
I would think that if you change the extension to txt, they will open in Notepad and you should be able to read them untranslated.  Braille files are just text files.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Mallard
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 2:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] Reading .brf books

Hello all,

I have a number of .brf files, not from Bookshare, which I normally read
on a usb pendrive with my Touchme5 braille display.

I'f like to read them on the pc as well, but I have no idea whether
there are any programmes that would open those files, without converting
the mto txt with Wintrans, for example.

Does such software exist?
Thanks, ciao,
Ollie





Ability to choose sounds versus words for certain notifications

 

Someone on one of the other blind technology forums dislikes the announcement of "Collapsed" and "Expanded" when going through e-mail messages in thread view and I know the same thing is done in File Explorer/Windows Explorer in the Tree View.

It seems like it should be possible to assign a "notification sound" much like one does on a smartphone for things like new e-mail having arrived or new text messages, but I don't know that it is in NVDA or any other screen reader.  I can understand why one might want to limit the verbosity for this sort of thing while keeping it largely in place for other stuff.

Is this possible in NVDA?   Does anyone happen to know whether it's supported in any other screen reader?
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



Re: Reading .brf books

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

.brf files *are* just plain text files.  There's nothing in a .brf file that can't be displayed in a text editor.  Of course there will be odd symbols in there, (er is right bracket, ar is less than symbol), and so on.  However, if you're using a braille display, these characters should be rendered properly with no issues (they were for me when I had a working braille display more than 10 years ago).  Of course, if you translate them back to plain text, then there are no grade two symbols in it, and so it can be read with the screen reader as well.  Nothing unusual about .brf files.



On 11/15/2016 5:13 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know what is different about grade 2 Braille files.  I thought they were text files because my recollection from using the Braille 'n Speak is that when typing with the translator on, they are just text files.  Evidently, there are some sort of differences I don't know about.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading .brf books

They are not just text files if they are in grade 2 or some other contractional format.  They do not present well in notepad if this is the case.


Dan Beaver


On 11/15/2016 3:37 PM, Gene wrote:
I would think that if you change the extension to txt, they will open in Notepad and you should be able to read them untranslated.  Braille files are just text files.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Mallard
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 2:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] Reading .brf books

Hello all,

I have a number of .brf files, not from Bookshare, which I normally read
on a usb pendrive with my Touchme5 braille display.

I'f like to read them on the pc as well, but I have no idea whether
there are any programmes that would open those files, without converting
the mto txt with Wintrans, for example.

Does such software exist?
Thanks, ciao,
Ollie







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Re: Reading .brf books

Dan Beaver
 

Well, grade 2 braille includes contractions like the dollar sign for the letters "ed" in what we used to call US braille at least.  I am  not familiar with braille from other countries and am not very familiar with UEB yet.  In a BRF file notepad displays the dollar sign as a dollar sign.  See what problems this kind of contraction can cause?


Dan Beaver


On 11/15/2016 5:13 PM, Gene wrote:

I don't know what is different about grade 2 Braille files.  I thought they were text files because my recollection from using the Braille 'n Speak is that when typing with the translator on, they are just text files.  Evidently, there are some sort of differences I don't know about.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading .brf books

They are not just text files if they are in grade 2 or some other contractional format.  They do not present well in notepad if this is the case.


Dan Beaver


On 11/15/2016 3:37 PM, Gene wrote:
I would think that if you change the extension to txt, they will open in Notepad and you should be able to read them untranslated.  Braille files are just text files.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Mallard
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 2:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] Reading .brf books

Hello all,

I have a number of .brf files, not from Bookshare, which I normally read
on a usb pendrive with my Touchme5 braille display.

I'f like to read them on the pc as well, but I have no idea whether
there are any programmes that would open those files, without converting
the mto txt with Wintrans, for example.

Does such software exist?
Thanks, ciao,
Ollie





Re: Reading .brf books

Ian Blackburn
 

I have read these files in variety of programs including notepad
WordPad in Microsoft Word
The layout is not very good in these programs but the files are red on the braille Display so it doesn't matter much
If you have a Mac you can read them in text edit
Regards Ian

Sent from my iPhone

On 16 Nov. 2016, at 6:13 am, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I don't know what is different about grade 2 Braille files.  I thought they were text files because my recollection from using the Braille 'n Speak is that when typing with the translator on, they are just text files.  Evidently, there are some sort of differences I don't know about.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading .brf books

They are not just text files if they are in grade 2 or some other contractional format.  They do not present well in notepad if this is the case.


Dan Beaver


On 11/15/2016 3:37 PM, Gene wrote:
I would think that if you change the extension to txt, they will open in Notepad and you should be able to read them untranslated.  Braille files are just text files.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Mallard
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 2:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] Reading .brf books

Hello all,

I have a number of .brf files, not from Bookshare, which I normally read
on a usb pendrive with my Touchme5 braille display.

I'f like to read them on the pc as well, but I have no idea whether
there are any programmes that would open those files, without converting
the mto txt with Wintrans, for example.

Does such software exist?
Thanks, ciao,
Ollie




Re: strange thing happening in thunderbird

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Jim,

Isn't ascending where the new messages go to the bottom?

Rosemarie



The Gamages wrote:

Hello rosemary,

Try setting it to ascending.



Best Regards, Jim.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 5:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] strange thing happening in thunderbird

Hi, everyone,


I decided to stay with thunderbird instead of going to seamonkey. I
discovered something weird. I have the decending checked but the new
messages are going to the bottom instead of coming to the top. What
could be going wrong?


Thanks for your help in advance.


Rosemarie







Re: Reading .brf books

Gene
 

I don't know what is different about grade 2 Braille files.  I thought they were text files because my recollection from using the Braille 'n Speak is that when typing with the translator on, they are just text files.  Evidently, there are some sort of differences I don't know about.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading .brf books

They are not just text files if they are in grade 2 or some other contractional format.  They do not present well in notepad if this is the case.


Dan Beaver


On 11/15/2016 3:37 PM, Gene wrote:
I would think that if you change the extension to txt, they will open in Notepad and you should be able to read them untranslated.  Braille files are just text files.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Mallard
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 2:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] Reading .brf books

Hello all,

I have a number of .brf files, not from Bookshare, which I normally read
on a usb pendrive with my Touchme5 braille display.

I'f like to read them on the pc as well, but I have no idea whether
there are any programmes that would open those files, without converting
the mto txt with Wintrans, for example.

Does such software exist?
Thanks, ciao,
Ollie




Weather Plus 4.2 updated

Adriano Barbieri
 

Hi there,

Version 4.2 - 15.11.2016
* Fixed update notice of Weather Plus during the Windows start-up;
This happens when the button was pressed "Use currently saved settings on
the logon and other secure screens (requires administrator privileges)" from
the generalsettings of nvda, which copies the configuration, and all of the
add-on folder systemConfig, but these are not synchronized with subsequent
updates of the add-ons.
If you have ever used at least once this option, you will have to do it
again one last time just after to have up-to-date Weather Plus.

Download:
http://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/weatherPlus.it.html
or:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5251169/Weather%20Plus4.2.nvda-addon

Cheers
Adriano


Re: strange thing happening in thunderbird

The Gamages
 

Hello rosemary,

Try setting it to ascending.



Best Regards, Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 5:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] strange thing happening in thunderbird

Hi, everyone,


I decided to stay with thunderbird instead of going to seamonkey. I
discovered something weird. I have the decending checked but the new
messages are going to the bottom instead of coming to the top. What
could be going wrong?


Thanks for your help in advance.


Rosemarie


Re: Reading .brf books

Dan Beaver
 

They are not just text files if they are in grade 2 or some other contractional format.  They do not present well in notepad if this is the case.


Dan Beaver


On 11/15/2016 3:37 PM, Gene wrote:

I would think that if you change the extension to txt, they will open in Notepad and you should be able to read them untranslated.  Braille files are just text files.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Mallard
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 2:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] Reading .brf books

Hello all,

I have a number of .brf files, not from Bookshare, which I normally read
on a usb pendrive with my Touchme5 braille display.

I'f like to read them on the pc as well, but I have no idea whether
there are any programmes that would open those files, without converting
the mto txt with Wintrans, for example.

Does such software exist?
Thanks, ciao,
Ollie




Re: Reading .brf books

Roger Stewart
 

Yes. I use the free brf2txt program from Empowerment Zone.

Roger









On 11/15/2016 2:37 PM, Gene wrote:

I would think that if you change the extension to txt, they will open in Notepad and you should be able to read them untranslated.  Braille files are just text files.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Mallard
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 2:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] Reading .brf books

Hello all,

I have a number of .brf files, not from Bookshare, which I normally read
on a usb pendrive with my Touchme5 braille display.

I'f like to read them on the pc as well, but I have no idea whether
there are any programmes that would open those files, without converting
the mto txt with Wintrans, for example.

Does such software exist?
Thanks, ciao,
Ollie




opening an email message in a new tab

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,

I'm trying out seamonkeyand so-far it's working pretty good. Is there a way to open a message in a new tab like you can in thunderbird? I'm noticing that when you hit enter on a message, you get the subject line repeated. I was just wondering if there's a way to open a message in a new tab.

Thanks for your help in advance.

Rosemarie


Re: Reading .brf books

Mallard <mallard@...>
 

I tried, but I get a lot of strange symbols along with the actual text. Since they're files for learning Biblical Hebrew, it looks a bit complicated.

I saw there's a programme, which is paid, but I don't think it's worth my while to buy something for this.

I'll continue reading them in my braille display and forget about the pc...

Thanks. It would probably work with straightforward text; I'll try that again.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 15/11/2016 21:37, Gene ha scritto:
I would think that if you change the extension to txt, they will open in Notepad and you should be able to read them untranslated. Braille files are just text files.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mallard <mailto:mallard@...>
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 15, 2016 2:31 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Reading .brf books

Hello all,

I have a number of .brf files, not from Bookshare, which I normally read
on a usb pendrive with my Touchme5 braille display.

I'f like to read them on the pc as well, but I have no idea whether
there are any programmes that would open those files, without converting
the mto txt with Wintrans, for example.

Does such software exist?
Thanks, ciao,
Ollie



Re: seamonkey and windows 10

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

In that case I'i'll stay with thunderbird.



On 11/15/2016 10:28 AM, Jeremy wrote:

Ah, yeah, that's true. I should have mentioned that. :)
I'll also add that it's necessary to authorize yourself twice, if you're using google's two-step verification. The first is when you first get the domain/ports configured and set up the account and the second is the first time you send an outgoing mail. So basically it makes you verify yourself for both incoming and outgoing, whereas thunderbird does this for you in one go when you first set it up.
Take care.

On 11/15/2016 12:15 PM, Salva wrote:

Hi.

 

The only disadvantage is that in Seamonkey Email you have to configure manually imap, smtp and ports for the accounts,.

Salva

 

¡Atención! Usted está recibiendo un correo electrónico de una persona ciega. Por favor, si envía imágenes o gráficos, descríbalos al pie del mismo. ¡La inclusión la hacemos entre todos!

 

De: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] En nombre de Jeremy
Enviado el: martes, 15 de noviembre de 2016 19:11
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] seamonkey and windows 10

 

Howdy, :)
Seamonkey does work pretty well with NVDA and for those who like to have their browser/email stuffed into the same package, it's pretty nice. For the most part, all of the plugins that you are used to using on firefox will work too, minus just a few that are updated in such a way as to make them only work inside the firefox specific way of doing things. Either way, it's definitely worth grabbing it and seeing what ya think.
Take care.

On 11/14/2016 7:47 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Seamonkey and Firefox share a lot of common cyber-DNA (going all the way back to Netscape) and are both under the Mozilla Foundation.  I see no reason why it wouldn't work perfectly well under Windows 10.  I do not know how accessible it is, though, unless the scripts for Firefox work for it or there were ones written specifically for Seamonkey.

I used Seamonkey for many years before I decided I didn't need or want anything other than a web browser, at which point I started using Firefox.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    

 

 




Re: seamonkey and windows 10

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

That's weird. Maybe I'll end up staying with thunderbird.




On 11/15/2016 10:15 AM, Salva wrote:

Hi.

 

The only disadvantage is that in Seamonkey Email you have to configure manually imap, smtp and ports for the accounts,.

Salva

 

¡Atención! Usted está recibiendo un correo electrónico de una persona ciega. Por favor, si envía imágenes o gráficos, descríbalos al pie del mismo. ¡La inclusión la hacemos entre todos!

 

De: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] En nombre de Jeremy
Enviado el: martes, 15 de noviembre de 2016 19:11
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] seamonkey and windows 10

 

Howdy, :)
Seamonkey does work pretty well with NVDA and for those who like to have their browser/email stuffed into the same package, it's pretty nice. For the most part, all of the plugins that you are used to using on firefox will work too, minus just a few that are updated in such a way as to make them only work inside the firefox specific way of doing things. Either way, it's definitely worth grabbing it and seeing what ya think.
Take care.

On 11/14/2016 7:47 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Seamonkey and Firefox share a lot of common cyber-DNA (going all the way back to Netscape) and are both under the Mozilla Foundation.  I see no reason why it wouldn't work perfectly well under Windows 10.  I do not know how accessible it is, though, unless the scripts for Firefox work for it or there were ones written specifically for Seamonkey.

I used Seamonkey for many years before I decided I didn't need or want anything other than a web browser, at which point I started using Firefox.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    

 

 



Re: seamonkey and windows 10

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Howdy,


I'll grab seamonkey and give it a shot.




On 11/15/2016 10:11 AM, Jeremy wrote:

Howdy, :)
Seamonkey does work pretty well with NVDA and for those who like to have their browser/email stuffed into the same package, it's pretty nice. For the most part, all of the plugins that you are used to using on firefox will work too, minus just a few that are updated in such a way as to make them only work inside the firefox specific way of doing things. Either way, it's definitely worth grabbing it and seeing what ya think.
Take care.

On 11/14/2016 7:47 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Seamonkey and Firefox share a lot of common cyber-DNA (going all the way back to Netscape) and are both under the Mozilla Foundation.  I see no reason why it wouldn't work perfectly well under Windows 10.  I do not know how accessible it is, though, unless the scripts for Firefox work for it or there were ones written specifically for Seamonkey.

I used Seamonkey for many years before I decided I didn't need or want anything other than a web browser, at which point I started using Firefox.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    





Re: Reading .brf books

Gene
 

I would think that if you change the extension to txt, they will open in Notepad and you should be able to read them untranslated.  Braille files are just text files.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Mallard
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 2:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] Reading .brf books

Hello all,

I have a number of .brf files, not from Bookshare, which I normally read
on a usb pendrive with my Touchme5 braille display.

I'f like to read them on the pc as well, but I have no idea whether
there are any programmes that would open those files, without converting
the mto txt with Wintrans, for example.

Does such software exist?
Thanks, ciao,
Ollie


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