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Re: Need to advise a sitghted person

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

It depends on the web page. For some reason, these days, a lot of sites use javascript plugins to prevent copying of text from the web content. Simply turning off javascript should (in most cases) allow copy and paste as normal. Plain html has no such protections, so it shouldn't be an issue. Since NVDA needs to interpret the content on the page, it's not quite as restricted as to javascript functionality, since it has it's own buffers for content.

On 11/18/2016 3:47 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
This is an odd one, but maybe somebody here can assist.
Basically, I needed to get some articles out of a web site so I merely highlighted the lines in firefox, and cut and pasted them into word.
Now I'm guessing that I'm using the virtual buffer of nvda to do this, as my sighted friends want to do this but say with a mouse no nvda etc and firefox it simply does not work.
So, is this true. Do we actually have an ability the sighted do not have here?
If so, then if I get them to install nvda, turn of the voice presumably they should now be able to do as I do, but will that work with the mouse or will they have to use the keyboard and possibly need the add on which shows the cursor up on screen in order to do it?
Brian

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Re: Turning off input help if you activate numlock inbetween

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Also, according to the documentation, there is no touch gesture for turning on/off help mode, but a four finger doubletap does the job. (just thought it deserved mention).

On 11/17/2016 11:36 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Not a bug report or anything, but, just a warning since it seems slightly odd, and, took me roundabout 2 seconds to realise what had happened...<smile>


Was double-checking layout of numpad keys for something else, so turned on NVDA's input help using NVDA key + number row 1.


Anyway, ran through all the numpad keys, including hitting just the numlock key, and, it did still turn on numlock, which meant that suddenly all the numpad keys were reporting their number characters, along with stating that numlock was being included - numlock numpad 5, for example.


Anyway, all this meant was that to then turn off input help, I first had to press numlock key by itself again, before then using the original keystroke of NVDA + number row 1, since otherwise it just reported numlock numpad 0, followed by 1 to me, but, kept input help turned on.


And, if relevant, this is on my windows 10, anniversary upgrade, 64 bit machine, and, running NVDA 2016.3, with full desktop keyboard layout.


Stay well


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Re: Goldwave's NVDA AddOn and Alt+numbers to move between opened files?

Roger Stewart
 

I've personally never needed to have more than 2 files open at once so it's easy to switch between them. I do this if I want to insert a sound or mix one sound with another but have never had a need for more than 2 at once.

Roger

On 11/18/2016 6:03 AM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
OK suppose you have opened 4 files. How do you switch between them on the fly? Control+tab? I liked the number system because you could get a better handle on what order the files are in, thus moving quickly between File1 and File4 for instance.

El 18/11/2016 02:41 a.m., Brian's Mail list account escribió:
I don't have a problem with the way its done now myself. I am normally looking for a file name and do not use numbers so I'd see no sense in using numbers to select each file in the program.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Goldwave's NVDA AddOn and Alt+numbers to move between opened files?


Hi,
I prefer to implement this if and only if GoldWave itself supports this.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerardo
Corripio
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 1:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Goldwave's NVDA AddOn and Alt+numbers to move between opened
files?

Joseph and listers, especially those of you guys involved in the
Goldwave's AddOn; what came of the suggestion of Alt+numbers to cycle
quickly between currently-opened files? I've got GoldWave 5.7, and wonder if
this were to be implemented, would this be available in my version of
GoldWave? The AddON I'm running with NVDA is version GoldWave; Estado:
ejecutando; Versión: 3.4; Autor: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>,
David Parduhn <xkill85@gmx.net>, Mesar Hameed <mhameed@src.gnome.org> 10 de
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Re: Goldwave's NVDA AddOn and Alt+numbers to move between opened files?

Roger Stewart
 

I second this. The Goldwave add on is working just fine for my needs.

Thanks.

Roger

On 11/18/2016 2:41 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I don't have a problem with the way its done now myself. I am normally looking for a file name and do not use numbers so I'd see no sense in using numbers to select each file in the program.

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Goldwave's NVDA AddOn and Alt+numbers to move between opened files?


Hi,
I prefer to implement this if and only if GoldWave itself supports this.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerardo
Corripio
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 1:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Goldwave's NVDA AddOn and Alt+numbers to move between opened
files?

Joseph and listers, especially those of you guys involved in the
Goldwave's AddOn; what came of the suggestion of Alt+numbers to cycle
quickly between currently-opened files? I've got GoldWave 5.7, and wonder if
this were to be implemented, would this be available in my version of
GoldWave? The AddON I'm running with NVDA is version GoldWave; Estado:
ejecutando; Versión: 3.4; Autor: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>,
David Parduhn <xkill85@gmx.net>, Mesar Hameed <mhameed@src.gnome.org> 10 de
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Re: Text frame Boxes MS Word 2016

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Rui,

Did you get a chance to look at the macro? I sent the URL in my message, did
you see it?


All the best,

Cearbhall

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui
Fontes
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 11:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Text frame Boxes MS Word 2016

Hello!

At least, you can send it to rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com?

TIA

Rui Fontes


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Data: 14 de novembro de 2016 09:38
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Text frame Boxes MS Word 2016

Hi,

I found a macro which detects the presence of text frames or text boxes and
works like a dream! I have forwarded it to the development team and asked if
its logic can be used in NVDA to tackle this problem.

Meanwhile, could someone tell me if it is OK to post the text of a macro on
this list so that everyone can put it into their Word document as a macro?
Here is the link to the article anyway:

- Source:
http://wordribbon.tips.net/T012249_Finding_Text_Boxes.html
by Allen Wyatt (last updated May 27, 2015)

All the best,

Cearbhall

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Re: Request: A Good Tutorial On Using NVDA With Outlook 2016

Георги Ламбов <obichamlegiona@...>
 

A wonderful link! I hope it will be helpful to me!

Georgi
На 17.11.2016 г. в 10:50 ч., Георги Ламбов написа:

The link works perfectly. After reading the letter about that the link isn't accessible, I've just tried it and it opened itself right now. I also need to know how to work with outlook in windows ten. I use MS2007.

Cheers!
Georgi
На 16.11.2016 г. в 22:46 ч., Salva написа:
Hi.
Also for me works.
Salva

¡Atención! Usted está recibiendo un correo electrónico de una persona ciega. Por favor, si envía imágenes o gráficos, descríbalos al pie del mismo. ¡La inclusión la hacemos entre todos!


El 16 nov 2016, a las 21:45, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> escribió:

Hi


Just tried the link in the email you gave me and it ook me straight to
the website where the material was.


Maybe the link on your end may be in text so may have to be highlighted
and copied and pasted into your browser for it to come up.


It works for me.


Gene nz



On 17/11/2016 8:00 AM, Rémy Ruiz wrote:
Hi Gene,

Thanks but...

Your link is broken...

https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Get-started-using-a-screen-reader-in-Outlook-2016-71b2c119-d8e4-4550-a276-00ee268f4d56



Thanks for another link.
Cheers since France.
Rémy
Le 15/11/2016 à 03:34, Gene New Zealand a écrit :
Hi


I am not sure for one for nvda,but even though this one mentions
narrator and another screen reader it might help you with the program.


I had a very quick look, but guess it would be the same moves for nvda
users or not far off it. I could be wrong.


The link to this page
is

https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Get-started-using-a-screen-reader-in-Outlook-2016-71b2c119-d8e4-4550-a276-00ee268f4d56


If i remember right it looks as though it comes off the microsoft site.


hope it helps.


I am a thunderbird user in Windows 10.


I am not sure if it is for the app version or one that comes with
windows for the outlook tutorial.


gene nz



On 15/11/2016 1:15 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,


I have been using Thunderbird for e-mail for quite a while now--ever
since I switched from XP to Windows 7/8/.  Is there any good tutorial
for NVDA and Outlook 2016?  I would like to try it out and see if I
can use all of its superior advantages with NVDA.  In particular the
mail features are of interest to me.


















Re: Goldwave's NVDA AddOn and Alt+numbers to move between opened files?

Gerardo Corripio
 

OK suppose you have opened 4 files. How do you switch between them on the fly? Control+tab? I liked the number system because you could get a better handle on what order the files are in, thus moving quickly between File1 and File4 for instance.

El 18/11/2016 02:41 a.m., Brian's Mail list account escribió:
I don't have a problem with the way its done now myself. I am normally looking for a file name and do not use numbers so I'd see no sense in using numbers to select each file in the program.

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Goldwave's NVDA AddOn and Alt+numbers to move between opened files?


Hi,
I prefer to implement this if and only if GoldWave itself supports this.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerardo
Corripio
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 1:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Goldwave's NVDA AddOn and Alt+numbers to move between opened
files?

Joseph and listers, especially those of you guys involved in the
Goldwave's AddOn; what came of the suggestion of Alt+numbers to cycle
quickly between currently-opened files? I've got GoldWave 5.7, and wonder if
this were to be implemented, would this be available in my version of
GoldWave? The AddON I'm running with NVDA is version GoldWave; Estado:
ejecutando; Versión: 3.4; Autor: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>,
David Parduhn <xkill85@gmx.net>, Mesar Hameed <mhameed@src.gnome.org> 10 de
25

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Any accessible CAT computer assisted translation software

Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Hi, I would like to know if any one has used NVDA with computer assisted software.
e.g. OmegaT
Thanks.


Re: Need to advise a sitghted person

Joe Paton
 

Hi,

turn on carratt browsing with f7. May help. Otherwise the
regular copy and paste should serve you just fine.

On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 08:47:33 -0000
"Brian's Mail list account" <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

This is an odd one, but maybe somebody here can assist.
Basically, I needed to get some articles out of a web site so I merely highlighted the lines in firefox, and cut and pasted them into word.
Now I'm guessing that I'm using the virtual buffer of nvda to do this, as my sighted friends want to do this but say with a mouse no nvda etc and firefox it simply does not work.
So, is this true. Do we actually have an ability the sighted do not have here?
If so, then if I get them to install nvda, turn of the voice presumably they should now be able to do as I do, but will that work with the mouse or will they have to use the keyboard and possibly need the add on which shows the cursor up on screen in order to do it?
Brian

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Re: Need to advise a sitghted person

Quentin Christensen
 

NVDA does give finer control with the keyboard over moving around and selecting text.  The standard way a sighted mouse user would select text in firefox however, would be to move the mouse pointer to the start of the text to be selected, click the left mouse button and hold it down, then drag the mouse to the end of the text to be selected.  At that point you can either press control+c to copy the text, or right click and choose "copy".

One difference for a sighted person if they are using a computer with NVDA running, is that control+c will only copy the text, NVDA doesn't copy images.  In that case (and assuming they want images) then right clicking and choosing copy will still copy the images.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 7:47 PM, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
This is an odd one, but maybe somebody here can assist.
Basically, I needed to get some articles out of a web site so I merely highlighted the lines in firefox, and cut and pasted them into word.
Now I'm guessing that I'm using the virtual buffer of nvda to do this, as my sighted  friends want to do this but say with a mouse no nvda etc and firefox it simply does not work.
So, is this true. Do we actually have an ability the sighted do not have here?
If so, then if I get them to install nvda, turn of the voice presumably they should now be able to do as I do, but will that work with the mouse or will they have to use the keyboard and possibly need the add on which shows the cursor up on screen in order to do it?
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Re: Need to advise a sitghted person

Gene
 

If all they want to do is copy and paste text without worrying about formatting such as tables, it is not necessary to use NVDA.  and my guess is that doing so might raise a lot of problems for sighted users.  Sighted people may not see an accurate reflection of where they are on the page, according to a thread yesterday. 
 
But without using a screen-reader, they can select an entire page and copy it to the clipboard.  I've done it with no screen-reader running using control a and control c. 
 
If they want to preserve formatting, perhaps they can paste what has been copied into a word processor.  If not, they can paste it into notepad.  They can then copy and paste as they usually do. 
 
I don't know what can be done on a web page with the mouse in terms of selecting.  My suggestion is intended to give them another option if they need it. 
 
There are so many discussion forums on the Internet, why don't the people in question discuss this matter on a site with forums like Bleeping Computer.  Sighted students copy and paste all the time when writing papers.  I find it very difficult to believe that what you are discussing can't be done in some way on the web page itself..
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:47 AM
Subject: [nvda] Need to advise a sitghted person

This is an odd one, but maybe somebody here can assist.
 Basically, I needed to get some articles out of a web site so I merely
highlighted the lines in firefox, and cut and pasted them into word.
 Now I'm guessing that I'm using the virtual buffer of nvda to do this, as
my sighted  friends want to do this but say with a mouse no nvda etc and
firefox it simply does not work.
 So, is this true. Do we actually have an ability the sighted do not have
here?
 If so, then if I get them to install nvda, turn of the voice presumably
they should now be able to do as I do, but will that work with the mouse or
will they have to use the keyboard and possibly need the add on which shows
the cursor up on screen in order to do it?
  Brian

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Need to advise a sitghted person

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

This is an odd one, but maybe somebody here can assist.
Basically, I needed to get some articles out of a web site so I merely highlighted the lines in firefox, and cut and pasted them into word.
Now I'm guessing that I'm using the virtual buffer of nvda to do this, as my sighted friends want to do this but say with a mouse no nvda etc and firefox it simply does not work.
So, is this true. Do we actually have an ability the sighted do not have here?
If so, then if I get them to install nvda, turn of the voice presumably they should now be able to do as I do, but will that work with the mouse or will they have to use the keyboard and possibly need the add on which shows the cursor up on screen in order to do it?
Brian

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Re: Goldwave's NVDA AddOn and Alt+numbers to move between opened files?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I don't have a problem with the way its done now myself. I am normally looking for a file name and do not use numbers so I'd see no sense in using numbers to select each file in the program.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Goldwave's NVDA AddOn and Alt+numbers to move between opened files?


Hi,
I prefer to implement this if and only if GoldWave itself supports this.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerardo
Corripio
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 1:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Goldwave's NVDA AddOn and Alt+numbers to move between opened
files?

Joseph and listers, especially those of you guys involved in the
Goldwave's AddOn; what came of the suggestion of Alt+numbers to cycle
quickly between currently-opened files? I've got GoldWave 5.7, and wonder if
this were to be implemented, would this be available in my version of
GoldWave? The AddON I'm running with NVDA is version GoldWave; Estado:
ejecutando; Versión: 3.4; Autor: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>,
David Parduhn <xkill85@gmx.net>, Mesar Hameed <mhameed@src.gnome.org> 10 de
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Re: The New Firefox version

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

If you make your current one into a temp copy and then install the latest master, you can test it now. If you do not like it, just reinstall the old one from the temp copy. it will probably warn you that its not a good idea to downdate, but thus far I've seen no issues in the 2016 series in fact.
I'd not suggest you judge the new version from a temp copy cos if you are using windows 8 or 10 the portable copies are far less usable for whatever reason. Many programs no longer work or in part they don't Jamie says its the use of the newer accessibility apis which need to be used with admin privs to be of any use.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io" <lauriemehta=yahoo.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 3:40 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] The New Firefox version


Hi,
My Firefox just updated to version 50 and I am not having any of the problematic issues that others have reported.
--However,
I am still using NVDA v16.1-- have not upgraded yet to the newer versions of NVDA.
After reading one list member's comments saying that NVDA v16.4 will likely work fine with the latest Firefox, I plan to wait for this one to come out before upgrading this year.

Thanks everyone, for what you've shared.
LM

--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 11/17/16, Mallard <mallard@kimabe.eu> wrote:

Subject: Re: [nvda] The New Firefox version
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 17, 2016, 12:36 PM

Firefox is indeed getting worse and
worse. I'm looking into abandoning
it altogether, and would already have done so, if it weren't
for
Webvisum, which I need fairly frequently.

Rumola never worked for me, so I'm stuck for now... Until
further
developments.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 17/11/2016 18:18, Brian's Mail list account ha scritto:
Apart from a few issues version 48 will work on all
windows from xp up.
Sadly things started to go bad on 49 amd seemingly
continue to get
worse after that.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] The New Firefox version


I can't say I don't blame you.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io]
On Behalf Of
Shaun
Everiss
Sent: November-16-16 9:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] The New Firefox version

It seems to only happen if I edit the end of an
address bar.
Right now I have selected the end of the bar in the
case of twitter
names
and then hit delete and that works well enough.
However if you screw a site up you have to kill
what you spelt and
hmm well
hit an arrow to get focus.
On the subject of sluggishness I used classic theme
restorer to hide the
toolbars for navigation and remove all colours on
toolbars, this
seemed to
speed things up a little bit.
I also have changed a lot of the newer modern
windows to older
windows as
well as a few extra dom related things with that
program.
Firefox is as fast as it ever was, but its a
disturbing trend that stuff
like this is happening, I am still using it but to
be honest if
security was
not a major issue I'd drop back a version and
either never update or
drop
back to 3x which works however I like to stay as
updated as i can for
security reasons.



On 16/11/2016 11:04 p.m., Gene wrote:
I didn't save earlier messages about Firefox so
I'm answering in a new
thread. I just downloaded and tried the new
version and this problem
appears to be very easily worked around. If
you delete a letter or more
than one in the address bar, simply right arrow
once then start
moving left
again and, at least in my tests, things are read
properly. While this
problem should be corrected, this appears to
resolve the problem.

Gene








Re: Turning off input help if you activate numlock inbetween

Jacob Kruger
 

Depending on keyboard layout, you can, obviously, use the other insert key + number row 1 to turn off input help, but, that would depend on the option to also use extended insert as an NVDA modifier - option under keyboard preferences.


Like said, didn't think it was a bug, but, it baffled me for roundabout 2 seconds...<smile>


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2016-11-18 6:53 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Jacob,

You are right, I'm going to call this a "feature".  We were aware of this behaviour.  From memory, I think it is one of those things that looks simple to fix, but would actually be very complex.

The main risk is that if you turn numlock on and use the numpad insert as the NVDA modifier, then you won't be able to exit input help until you turn numlock off again.


Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:
Not a bug report or anything, but, just a warning since it seems slightly odd, and, took me roundabout 2 seconds to realise what had happened...<smile>


Was double-checking layout of numpad keys for something else, so turned on NVDA's input help using NVDA key + number row 1.


Anyway, ran through all the numpad keys, including hitting just the numlock key, and, it did still turn on numlock, which meant that suddenly all the numpad keys were reporting their number characters, along with stating that numlock was being included - numlock numpad 5, for example.


Anyway, all this meant was that to then turn off input help, I first had to press numlock key by itself again, before then using the original keystroke of NVDA + number row 1, since otherwise it just reported numlock numpad 0, followed by 1 to me, but, kept input help turned on.


And, if relevant, this is on my windows 10, anniversary upgrade, 64 bit machine, and, running NVDA 2016.3, with full desktop keyboard layout.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
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Skype: BlindZA
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Re: Turning off input help if you activate numlock inbetween

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Jacob,

You are right, I'm going to call this a "feature".  We were aware of this behaviour.  From memory, I think it is one of those things that looks simple to fix, but would actually be very complex.

The main risk is that if you turn numlock on and use the numpad insert as the NVDA modifier, then you won't be able to exit input help until you turn numlock off again.


Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:
Not a bug report or anything, but, just a warning since it seems slightly odd, and, took me roundabout 2 seconds to realise what had happened...<smile>


Was double-checking layout of numpad keys for something else, so turned on NVDA's input help using NVDA key + number row 1.


Anyway, ran through all the numpad keys, including hitting just the numlock key, and, it did still turn on numlock, which meant that suddenly all the numpad keys were reporting their number characters, along with stating that numlock was being included - numlock numpad 5, for example.


Anyway, all this meant was that to then turn off input help, I first had to press numlock key by itself again, before then using the original keystroke of NVDA + number row 1, since otherwise it just reported numlock numpad 0, followed by 1 to me, but, kept input help turned on.


And, if relevant, this is on my windows 10, anniversary upgrade, 64 bit machine, and, running NVDA 2016.3, with full desktop keyboard layout.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."







--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Turning off input help if you activate numlock inbetween

Jacob Kruger
 

Not a bug report or anything, but, just a warning since it seems slightly odd, and, took me roundabout 2 seconds to realise what had happened...<smile>


Was double-checking layout of numpad keys for something else, so turned on NVDA's input help using NVDA key + number row 1.


Anyway, ran through all the numpad keys, including hitting just the numlock key, and, it did still turn on numlock, which meant that suddenly all the numpad keys were reporting their number characters, along with stating that numlock was being included - numlock numpad 5, for example.


Anyway, all this meant was that to then turn off input help, I first had to press numlock key by itself again, before then using the original keystroke of NVDA + number row 1, since otherwise it just reported numlock numpad 0, followed by 1 to me, but, kept input help turned on.


And, if relevant, this is on my windows 10, anniversary upgrade, 64 bit machine, and, running NVDA 2016.3, with full desktop keyboard layout.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."


Re: Firefox and potential timing issues

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

I have this happen in Chrome as well, though it's not very often, so it's not really a major problem, but just so you know, it's not just firefox.



On 11/17/2016 10:46 AM, Felix G. wrote:
Hello list,
has anyone else noticed that when quickly arrowing in a web page in Firefox, or quickly hitting the same navigational key, such as k, a few times, some elements are spoken twice? It is as if something couldn't keep up. Also, hitting a navigational or arrow key a few times then stopping, the cursor sometimes jumps back.
Here is an example. Let's say there are numbered lines on a web page, like so:
Line 1
Line 2
Line 3
etc.
Now, when quickly hitting down arrow repeatedly, I might get:
Line 2
Line 3
Line 4
Line 3
Line 4
Line 5
Line 4
Line 5
Sometimes this or a similar issue affects even the read all function, so that it double-speaks some words or parts of words, like so:
Mary had a little lamb, its fur was white as snow, had a little lamb and everywhere that Mary went, the went, the lamb was sure to go.
Are there any known workarounds or at least similar observations with possible theories as to what might be going on?
Kind regards,
Felix Grützmacher




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Re: The New Firefox version

Laurie Mehta
 

Hi,
My Firefox just updated to version 50 and I am not having any of the problematic issues that others have reported.
--However,
I am still using NVDA v16.1-- have not upgraded yet to the newer versions of NVDA.
After reading one list member's comments saying that NVDA v16.4 will likely work fine with the latest Firefox, I plan to wait for this one to come out before upgrading this year.

Thanks everyone, for what you've shared.
LM

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On Thu, 11/17/16, Mallard <mallard@kimabe.eu> wrote:

Subject: Re: [nvda] The New Firefox version
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 17, 2016, 12:36 PM

Firefox is indeed getting worse and
worse. I'm looking into abandoning
it altogether, and would already have done so, if it weren't
for
Webvisum, which I need fairly frequently.

Rumola never worked for me, so I'm stuck for now... Until
further
developments.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 17/11/2016 18:18, Brian's Mail list account ha scritto:
> Apart from a few issues version 48 will work on all
windows from xp up.
> Sadly things started to go bad on 49 amd seemingly
continue to get
> worse after that.
> Brian
>
> bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal email to:-
> briang1@blueyonder.co.uk,
putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@gmail.com>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 5:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] The New Firefox version
>
>
>> I can't say I don't blame you.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io]
On Behalf Of
>> Shaun
>> Everiss
>> Sent: November-16-16 9:29 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] The New Firefox version
>>
>> It seems to only happen if I edit the end of an
address bar.
>> Right now I have selected the end of the bar in the
case of twitter
>> names
>> and then hit delete and that works well enough.
>> However if you screw a site up you have to kill
what you spelt and
>> hmm well
>> hit an arrow to get focus.
>> On the subject of sluggishness I used classic theme
restorer to hide the
>> toolbars for navigation and remove all colours on
toolbars, this
>> seemed to
>> speed things up a little bit.
>> I also have changed a lot of the newer modern
windows to older
>> windows as
>> well as a few extra dom related things with that
program.
>> Firefox is as fast as it ever was, but its a
disturbing trend that stuff
>> like this is happening, I am still using it but to
be honest if
>> security was
>> not a major issue I'd drop back a version and
either never update or
>> drop
>> back to 3x which works however I like to stay as
updated as i can for
>> security reasons.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16/11/2016 11:04 p.m., Gene wrote:
>>> I didn't save earlier messages about Firefox so
I'm answering in a new
>> thread.  I just downloaded and tried the new
version and this problem
>> appears to be very easily worked around.  If
you delete a letter or more
>> than one in the address bar, simply right arrow
once then start
>> moving left
>> again and, at least in my tests, things are read
properly. While this
>> problem should be corrected, this appears to
resolve the problem.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: Goldwave's NVDA AddOn and Alt+numbers to move between opened files?

 

Hi,
I prefer to implement this if and only if GoldWave itself supports this.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerardo
Corripio
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 1:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Goldwave's NVDA AddOn and Alt+numbers to move between opened
files?

Joseph and listers, especially those of you guys involved in the
Goldwave's AddOn; what came of the suggestion of Alt+numbers to cycle
quickly between currently-opened files? I've got GoldWave 5.7, and wonder if
this were to be implemented, would this be available in my version of
GoldWave? The AddON I'm running with NVDA is version GoldWave; Estado:
ejecutando; Versión: 3.4; Autor: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>,
David Parduhn <xkill85@gmx.net>, Mesar Hameed <mhameed@src.gnome.org> 10 de
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