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Publishing EBooks with NVDA?

David Russell
 

Hello NVDA group,
Websites like www.daisy.org highly recommend author Dave Gunn's
"Accessible eBook Guidelines ....." (title snipped). Have you found
accessibility and or compatibility with major eBook publishing
programs used with a screen reader to be a real, major, challenge or
hurtle?

This question is more for those with no vision or very limited vision.

Alongside that, Dropbox may work well with IOS devices compared to
desktops or laptops, but what cloud portals work well with desktops
and laptops?

Thanks for your input.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com


Re: Anti Virus

Arlene
 

Also, if you visit sites. Even if you have IE or firefox or edge clean out the history. You may have to manually get rid of history.  Even though you have your virus scan up to date always clean your hystery.  I have my computer not remember passwords even though it asks.  If you are on sites you login always log out.  Sites like drop box or others.  Someone in the xp days told me to always log out and I always do it. 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: November-19-16 9:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti Virus

 

On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 08:00 am, Roger Stewart wrote:

Only caution I'd give is to do a manual check for updates several times a day as their virus database is updated several times a day but the program will only check itself once when you start the computer.

 I have not found this to be the case under Windows 10.  If you open Windows Defender you can see when the last virus definition update has taken place, and that's often very recent even when I've had my machine up and running for days.

This also wasn't the case, at least if I'm recalling correctly, under Windows 8.1 either.  It would make absolutely no sense for any modern antivirus program, and Windows Defender is one, to not auto-update its own definitions and, in fact, itself as new releases are released.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    

 


Re: drop box dil

Arlene
 

Oh okay. Yes the del is at the end.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account
Sent: November-19-16 3:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] drop box dil

Yes indeed. Dropbox links sometimes do come up with nothing on the end, but
I have no idea why this happens sometimes and not others. I can confirm the
dl 1 and zeio system of forcing it to run or download, but I think when its
not there the decision lies withhow you set up the browser to react.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] drop box dil


When you send the link, try adding ?dl=1 to the end of the link. Look at
the syntax character by character to make sure you see exactly what I wrote.

Note the question mark at the beginning. If the link already has ?dl=0
at the end, delete the 0 and place a 1 there. You only have to add the rest

if it isn't already there.

This has nothing to do withh Internet Explorer. It's a Drop Box matter.
Gene
----- Original Message -----


From: Arlene
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 11:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] drop box dil


Hi list. How do you fix drop box dell in IE 11. I can share public link When

I pretended to down load my link it will not let me download it. How do I
fix this problem?


Re: Anti Virus

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

hi are you using A screen reader with virpe?
If so what version of the internet security are you running?
Also to you like them to stick with them and how easy is it to change options in that program and when you get something that it says that maybe infected.
How easy is it to deal with that as well?
So would you recommend someone using the latest version of window-eyes to get this program and set it up and you will be fully protected.
Or do you think one should keep looking for A better product?


--
Casey


Re: drop box dil

Arlene
 

Oh okay. I needed to go to bed! Loll! What had happened the Audio file was supposed to be Jeopardy! But it ended up being Judge Judy. When I opened the link in my sent files. It would not download. I went to my drop box on the site and downloaded it. It worked I find out it was wrong! It was Judge Judy!  I thought my computer was going crazy! It’s the operator!  Loll!  Whoever put both Jeopardy and Judge Judy did not name it Judge Judy.  I did not think to check because if it’s Jeopardy. Then Jeopardy would play. This win 7 is getting old.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: November-19-16 4:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] drop box dil

 

If you can send real public links, they may not have anything at the end.  If you are sharing links, which can be used in the same way but are technically different, there will be dl=0 at the end.  As far as dl=1 is concerned, it's always a good idea, when sending a public link or a shared link, to make sure dl=1 is at the end.  If it isn't there, some people will have a file play if its an audio file.  I'm not sure if other files ever open instead of download.  But Drop box is set up to cause dl=1 to force a download of a file, no matter what kind of file it is and no matter what browser and settings in the browser or other programs are used.  I always make sure dl=1 is at the end of any file I send to anyone.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 5:51 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] drop box dil

 

Yes indeed. Dropbox links sometimes do come up with nothing on the end, but
I have no idea why this happens sometimes and not others. I can confirm the
dl 1 and zeio system of forcing it to run or download, but I think when its
not there the decision lies withhow you set up the browser to react.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] drop box dil


When you send the link, try adding ?dl=1 to the end of the link.  Look at
the syntax character by character to make sure you see exactly what I wrote.
Note the     question mark at the beginning.  If the link already has ?dl=0
at the end, delete the 0 and place a 1 there.  You only have to add the rest
if it isn't already there.

This has nothing to do withh Internet Explorer.  It's a Drop Box matter.
Gene
----- Original Message -----


From: Arlene
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 11:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] drop box dil


Hi list. How do you fix drop box dell in IE 11. I can share public link When
I pretended to down load my link it will not let me download it. How do I
fix this problem?




Re: Anti Virus

Gene
 

No matter how careful you are, you can still be infected, even by going to reputable sites if those sites are hacked or if the advertising on those sites is hacked.  Yes, people should follow good safety procedures.  but that does not minimize the need or usefulness of good antimalware programs. 
 
And no matter how careful you are, what about the moment of inattention.  I'm very careful about not opening attachments.  but even so, there was one time in perhaps fifteen years or longer, that I wasn't really thinking much about what I was doing and opened an attachment that came from a message that looked as though it was from someone I knew.  If I had been paying proper attention, I wouldn't have done so but the point is that unless you are sure that you will always be paying proper attention from now until you stop using computers, there is always a small or very small chance for error.  I've seen techs or techies minimize the importance of antimalware programs.  Frankly, I consider this to be the overconfidence of knowledge.  I believe that safety is the lesson of knowledge and experience.
 
Genee

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti Virus

I agree, the first point of security should be your head.
Next I'd use something like firefox with better privacy for flash
cookies, ublock for adds, and noscript for scripts.
That way if you click malware it may not run.
To be honest I have been tempted to get more passive protection that
gets stuff before it handles things.



On 20/11/2016 6:44 a.m., Brian Vogel wrote:
> I have seen virtually any antivirus or security suite you can name either praised to the high heavens or called almost completely useless.  It really depends on who's doing the reviewing and the metrics they're using.
>
> As has been said here, and elsewhere, antivirus programs are not and should not be considered your first line of defense against infection.  Your own browsing habits play a far, far greater role in that.  Good browsing hygiene will keep you quite safe, if not 100% so.
>
> If you have not been infected nor had whatever antivirus or security program you've been using report anything being quarantined in a very long time you can be reasonably certain that your browsing habits are OK.  If you're constantly infected or have things quarantined without actually having been infected it would be very wise to start looking at precisely when, how, and why this is happening.  Most infections are the direct result of user action, not some backdoor entry.
>
> Windows Defender has proven more than adequate for more users on more machines than I can count at this point in my career.   Nothing is perfect, some competitors may be better, but Windows Defender is not even close to "junk".
>
> This thread entitled, Windows Defender as an integral part of Windows 10 ( http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/632487/windows-defender-as-integral-part-of-windows-10/ ) , which just started yesterday on bleepingcomputer.com's Windows 10 Support Forum, is worth reading [disclaimer: I've got two posts in that thread so far, but that's not why I think it's worth looking at].
> --
> *Brian*
>
> *Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.*
>
>    ~ Lauren Bacall
>



Re: Anti Virus

 

I agree, the first point of security should be your head.
Next I'd use something like firefox with better privacy for flash cookies, ublock for adds, and noscript for scripts.
That way if you click malware it may not run.
To be honest I have been tempted to get more passive protection that gets stuff before it handles things.

On 20/11/2016 6:44 a.m., Brian Vogel wrote:
I have seen virtually any antivirus or security suite you can name either praised to the high heavens or called almost completely useless. It really depends on who's doing the reviewing and the metrics they're using.

As has been said here, and elsewhere, antivirus programs are not and should not be considered your first line of defense against infection. Your own browsing habits play a far, far greater role in that. Good browsing hygiene will keep you quite safe, if not 100% so.

If you have not been infected nor had whatever antivirus or security program you've been using report anything being quarantined in a very long time you can be reasonably certain that your browsing habits are OK. If you're constantly infected or have things quarantined without actually having been infected it would be very wise to start looking at precisely when, how, and why this is happening. Most infections are the direct result of user action, not some backdoor entry.

Windows Defender has proven more than adequate for more users on more machines than I can count at this point in my career. Nothing is perfect, some competitors may be better, but Windows Defender is not even close to "junk".

This thread entitled, Windows Defender as an integral part of Windows 10 ( http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/632487/windows-defender-as-integral-part-of-windows-10/ ) , which just started yesterday on bleepingcomputer.com's Windows 10 Support Forum, is worth reading [disclaimer: I've got two posts in that thread so far, but that's not why I think it's worth looking at].
--
*Brian*

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t.*

~ Lauren Bacall


Re: Anti Virus

 

On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 08:00 am, Roger Stewart wrote:
Only caution I'd give is to do a manual check for updates several times a day as their virus database is updated several times a day but the program will only check itself once when you start the computer.

 I have not found this to be the case under Windows 10.  If you open Windows Defender you can see when the last virus definition update has taken place, and that's often very recent even when I've had my machine up and running for days.

This also wasn't the case, at least if I'm recalling correctly, under Windows 8.1 either.  It would make absolutely no sense for any modern antivirus program, and Windows Defender is one, to not auto-update its own definitions and, in fact, itself as new releases are released.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



Re: Anti Virus

 

I have seen virtually any antivirus or security suite you can name either praised to the high heavens or called almost completely useless.  It really depends on who's doing the reviewing and the metrics they're using.

As has been said here, and elsewhere, antivirus programs are not and should not be considered your first line of defense against infection.  Your own browsing habits play a far, far greater role in that.  Good browsing hygiene will keep you quite safe, if not 100% so.

If you have not been infected nor had whatever antivirus or security program you've been using report anything being quarantined in a very long time you can be reasonably certain that your browsing habits are OK.  If you're constantly infected or have things quarantined without actually having been infected it would be very wise to start looking at precisely when, how, and why this is happening.  Most infections are the direct result of user action, not some backdoor entry.

Windows Defender has proven more than adequate for more users on more machines than I can count at this point in my career.   Nothing is perfect, some competitors may be better, but Windows Defender is not even close to "junk".

This thread entitled, Windows Defender as an integral part of Windows 10, which just started yesterday on bleepingcomputer.com's Windows 10 Support Forum, is worth reading [disclaimer: I've got two posts in that thread so far, but that's not why I think it's worth looking at].
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



Re: Anti Virus

 

Well to be honest if I ever upgrade from msse, I will either take sophos for their home 10 pc cloud protection and lowish prices.
Or vipre for their expensive 50 dollar unlimited lifetime protection licence.
I am not sure what way I want to go to be honest.
Cloud is nice while online, a lot of less stress on my system.
Also if I have a false positive and exclude it, its probably going to sync with my cloud account so hmmm will it matter that much.
On the other hand, who knows.

On 20/11/2016 5:14 a.m., William Sallander wrote:
I am currently using Vipre Internet Security; there are at least three
different flavors for home users.

I find it to be quite accessible and as far as I saw from reviews, it
was better then Defender.

Yes it is true that Windows Defender is very accessible, but when it
comes to updates, you need to play with the task scheduler within Windows.

As far as protection, it's just enough to keep you out of trouble on a
temperary basis, but as it stands now, I wouldn't make it the daily
driver. There has been some slight improvements so stay tuned.



On 11/19/2016 11:00 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:
I've been using Windows Defender. Only caution I'd give is to do a
manual check for updates several times a day as their virus database
is updated several times a day but the program will only check itself
once when you start the computer. This is probably why it seems to
have a bad reputation. They need to fix this so it will check by
itself every couple of hours.

Roger










On 11/18/2016 10:53 PM, Andrea Sherry wrote:
Using Windows10 Pro on 64 bit machine.

Tried a number of these: AVG, Avast, Mcaffee and others.

I have had problems with all including installation, preferences,
accessing menus etc.

Is there such a beast which allows NVDA to access during
installation, preferences and response to virus alerts? I'm not
really interested in any freeware though I don't want to pay the earth.

Any suggestions?

Cheers

Andrea





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Re: how do I find microsoft edge

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Jim,


I already tried that. I had to end up calling the microsoft disability line and they changed my profile. Now edge works like a charm. Thanks very much for your help.


Rosemarie

On 11/19/2016 7:18 AM, The Gamages wrote:
Hello Rosemary,

This may sound daft but try typing "microsoft" into the search, it
brings up a list of stuff on my computer and edge is in it.



Best Regards, Jim.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 11:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I find microsoft edge

I just tried that and it didn't work. I had my sighted nephew look at it
through team viewer and he said it's not on the computer at all. I
didn't do anything to it. This is a brand-new computer so I don't know
why edge wouldn't be on it.




On 11/18/2016 3:35 PM, David Griffith wrote:
This is a little surprising.

what I find is that after typing

just E and then D Microsoft Edge Recommended app is identified by
Windows as an option and just pressing enter runs it.

Try just typing E and then D rather than edge and see if that works
better.

David Griffith
On 18/11/2016 22:55, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,


I tried typing edge in the start menu search bosx and hit enter but
edgedidn't show up. NVDA said the word but I can't find the actual
browser. Wanted to give it a try.


Thanks for your help in advance.


Rosemarie









Re: Connecting a Brailliant BI 40 to NVDA via bluetooth does not work.

Antony Stone
 

Ah, sorry, I didn't know this was a Windows 10 system,

Antony.

On Saturday 19 Nov 2016 at 17:25, Michel Such wrote:

Well, just seen that there is a ticket open on this, saying that this
driver does not work for bluetooth under Windows 10.

so let's hope it will be fixed.
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Please reply to the list;
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Re: Connecting a Brailliant BI 40 to NVDA via bluetooth does not work.

Michel Such
 

Well, just seen that there is a ticket open on this, saying that this driver does not work for bluetooth under Windows 10.

so let's hope it will be fixed.


Michel SUCH

michel.such@free.fr
Skype : michel.such
Twitter : @SuchMichel

Le 19/11/2016 à 18:05, Michel Such a écrit :
But there is no place in the dialog to select the port.


Michel SUCH

michel.such@free.fr
Skype : michel.such
Twitter : @SuchMichel

Le 19/11/2016 à 17:50, Antony Stone a écrit :
I believe that when using Bluetooth, you have to select the port name
manually; automatic discovery doesn't work.

Antony.

On Saturday 19 Nov 2016 at 13:11, Michel Such wrote:

Hi all,


We are trying to connect the subject braille display to NVDA.

It works fine via USB but, via bluetooth, NVDA can't detect the display.

For info, it works with Jaws.

Could it be that, even when stopped, Jaws would keep the port for him or
something like this?


Re: Connecting a Brailliant BI 40 to NVDA via bluetooth does not work.

Michel Such
 

But there is no place in the dialog to select the port.


Michel SUCH

michel.such@free.fr
Skype : michel.such
Twitter : @SuchMichel

Le 19/11/2016 à 17:50, Antony Stone a écrit :
I believe that when using Bluetooth, you have to select the port name
manually; automatic discovery doesn't work.

Antony.

On Saturday 19 Nov 2016 at 13:11, Michel Such wrote:

Hi all,


We are trying to connect the subject braille display to NVDA.

It works fine via USB but, via bluetooth, NVDA can't detect the display.

For info, it works with Jaws.

Could it be that, even when stopped, Jaws would keep the port for him or
something like this?


Focus Highlight Add-On

Ralph Boersema
 

I want to thank the list for pointing me to the Focus Highlight Add-On. It is just what I need to help my sighted assistant to understand what I'm talking about and it downloaded and installed smoothly.

Regards,
Ralph


Re: Connecting a Brailliant BI 40 to NVDA via bluetooth does not work.

Antony Stone
 

I believe that when using Bluetooth, you have to select the port name
manually; automatic discovery doesn't work.

Antony.

On Saturday 19 Nov 2016 at 13:11, Michel Such wrote:

Hi all,


We are trying to connect the subject braille display to NVDA.

It works fine via USB but, via bluetooth, NVDA can't detect the display.

For info, it works with Jaws.

Could it be that, even when stopped, Jaws would keep the port for him or
something like this?
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Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC me.


Re: Anti Virus

Gene
 

That's not why Windows Defender has a bad reputation.  It is better than it used to be but still not particularly good.  See this article and if people want more information, a search for something like Windows Defender review 2016 should bring up many relevant results.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti Virus

I've been using Windows Defender.  Only caution I'd give is to do a
manual check for updates several times a day as their virus database is
updated several times a day but the program will only check itself once
when you start the computer.  This is probably why it seems to have a
bad reputation.  They need to fix this so it will check by itself every
couple of hours.

Roger










On 11/18/2016 10:53 PM, Andrea Sherry wrote:
> Using Windows10 Pro on 64 bit machine.
>
> Tried a number of these: AVG, Avast, Mcaffee and others.
>
> I have had problems with all including installation, preferences,
> accessing menus etc.
>
> Is there such a beast which allows NVDA to access during installation,
> preferences and response to virus alerts? I'm not really interested in
> any freeware though I don't want to pay the earth.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Cheers
>
> Andrea
>
>




Re: Anti Virus

William Sallander <wsallander@...>
 

I am currently using Vipre Internet Security; there are at least three different flavors for home users.

I find it to be quite accessible and as far as I saw from reviews, it was better then Defender.

Yes it is true that Windows Defender is very accessible, but when it comes to updates, you need to play with the task scheduler within Windows.

As far as protection, it's just enough to keep you out of trouble on a temperary basis, but as it stands now, I wouldn't make it the daily driver. There has been some slight improvements so stay tuned.

On 11/19/2016 11:00 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:
I've been using Windows Defender. Only caution I'd give is to do a manual check for updates several times a day as their virus database is updated several times a day but the program will only check itself once when you start the computer. This is probably why it seems to have a bad reputation. They need to fix this so it will check by itself every couple of hours.

Roger










On 11/18/2016 10:53 PM, Andrea Sherry wrote:
Using Windows10 Pro on 64 bit machine.

Tried a number of these: AVG, Avast, Mcaffee and others.

I have had problems with all including installation, preferences, accessing menus etc.

Is there such a beast which allows NVDA to access during installation, preferences and response to virus alerts? I'm not really interested in any freeware though I don't want to pay the earth.

Any suggestions?

Cheers

Andrea



Re: Anti Virus

Roger Stewart
 

I've been using Windows Defender. Only caution I'd give is to do a manual check for updates several times a day as their virus database is updated several times a day but the program will only check itself once when you start the computer. This is probably why it seems to have a bad reputation. They need to fix this so it will check by itself every couple of hours.

Roger

On 11/18/2016 10:53 PM, Andrea Sherry wrote:
Using Windows10 Pro on 64 bit machine.

Tried a number of these: AVG, Avast, Mcaffee and others.

I have had problems with all including installation, preferences, accessing menus etc.

Is there such a beast which allows NVDA to access during installation, preferences and response to virus alerts? I'm not really interested in any freeware though I don't want to pay the earth.

Any suggestions?

Cheers

Andrea


Re: how do I find microsoft edge

The Gamages
 

Hello Rosemary,

This may sound daft but try typing "microsoft" into the search, it
brings up a list of stuff on my computer and edge is in it.



Best Regards, Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 11:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I find microsoft edge

I just tried that and it didn't work. I had my sighted nephew look at it
through team viewer and he said it's not on the computer at all. I
didn't do anything to it. This is a brand-new computer so I don't know
why edge wouldn't be on it.




On 11/18/2016 3:35 PM, David Griffith wrote:
This is a little surprising.

what I find is that after typing

just E and then D Microsoft Edge Recommended app is identified by
Windows as an option and just pressing enter runs it.

Try just typing E and then D rather than edge and see if that works
better.

David Griffith
On 18/11/2016 22:55, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,


I tried typing edge in the start menu search bosx and hit enter but
edgedidn't show up. NVDA said the word but I can't find the actual
browser. Wanted to give it a try.


Thanks for your help in advance.


Rosemarie