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Re: Anti Virus

Andrea Sherry
 

How accessible is this package?

Andrea

On 21/11/2016 5:53 PM, slery wrote:
Home.sophos.com is free, it doesn't get any lower than that.

Cindy

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti Virus

Well to be honest if I ever upgrade from msse, I will either take sophos for their home 10 pc cloud protection and lowish prices.
Or vipre for their expensive 50 dollar unlimited lifetime protection licence.
I am not sure what way I want to go to be honest.
Cloud is nice while online, a lot of less stress on my system.
Also if I have a false positive and exclude it, its probably going to sync with my cloud account so hmmm will it matter that much.
On the other hand, who knows.



On 20/11/2016 5:14 a.m., William Sallander wrote:
I am currently using Vipre Internet Security; there are at least three
different flavors for home users.

I find it to be quite accessible and as far as I saw from reviews, it
was better then Defender.

Yes it is true that Windows Defender is very accessible, but when it
comes to updates, you need to play with the task scheduler within Windows.

As far as protection, it's just enough to keep you out of trouble on
a temperary basis, but as it stands now, I wouldn't make it the daily
driver. There has been some slight improvements so stay tuned.



On 11/19/2016 11:00 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:
I've been using Windows Defender. Only caution I'd give is to do a
manual check for updates several times a day as their virus database
is updated several times a day but the program will only check itself
once when you start the computer. This is probably why it seems to
have a bad reputation. They need to fix this so it will check by
itself every couple of hours.

Roger










On 11/18/2016 10:53 PM, Andrea Sherry wrote:
Using Windows10 Pro on 64 bit machine.

Tried a number of these: AVG, Avast, Mcaffee and others.

I have had problems with all including installation, preferences,
accessing menus etc.

Is there such a beast which allows NVDA to access during
installation, preferences and response to virus alerts? I'm not
really interested in any freeware though I don't want to pay the earth.

Any suggestions?

Cheers

Andrea




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Re: Anti Virus

slery <slerythema@...>
 

Home.sophos.com is free, it doesn't get any lower than that.

Cindy

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti Virus

Well to be honest if I ever upgrade from msse, I will either take sophos for their home 10 pc cloud protection and lowish prices.
Or vipre for their expensive 50 dollar unlimited lifetime protection licence.
I am not sure what way I want to go to be honest.
Cloud is nice while online, a lot of less stress on my system.
Also if I have a false positive and exclude it, its probably going to sync with my cloud account so hmmm will it matter that much.
On the other hand, who knows.



On 20/11/2016 5:14 a.m., William Sallander wrote:
I am currently using Vipre Internet Security; there are at least three
different flavors for home users.

I find it to be quite accessible and as far as I saw from reviews, it
was better then Defender.

Yes it is true that Windows Defender is very accessible, but when it
comes to updates, you need to play with the task scheduler within Windows.

As far as protection, it's just enough to keep you out of trouble on
a temperary basis, but as it stands now, I wouldn't make it the daily
driver. There has been some slight improvements so stay tuned.



On 11/19/2016 11:00 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:
I've been using Windows Defender. Only caution I'd give is to do a
manual check for updates several times a day as their virus database
is updated several times a day but the program will only check itself
once when you start the computer. This is probably why it seems to
have a bad reputation. They need to fix this so it will check by
itself every couple of hours.

Roger










On 11/18/2016 10:53 PM, Andrea Sherry wrote:
Using Windows10 Pro on 64 bit machine.

Tried a number of these: AVG, Avast, Mcaffee and others.

I have had problems with all including installation, preferences,
accessing menus etc.

Is there such a beast which allows NVDA to access during
installation, preferences and response to virus alerts? I'm not
really interested in any freeware though I don't want to pay the earth.

Any suggestions?

Cheers

Andrea






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Re: can't get a favorite oldies station to play in webbie

Arlene
 

That’s cause I put them there! Just kidding!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: November-20-16 7:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't get a favorite oldies station to play in webbie

 

Did you check to see if popups are allowed? 

 

Gene

 

Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:18 PM

Subject: [nvda] can't get a favorite oldies station to play in webbie

 

Hi, everyone,


I just tried to tune in to this program called Treasure Island Oldies
using webbie browser but when I came to the play link, all I got was the
windows 10 system sound. What could be going wrong?


Thanks for your help in advance.


Rosemarie





Re: third party rss readers

Rob
 

Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
It can't be done as far as I can tell. There is no setting governing this behavior.
I use Pop Peeper:
http://www.esumsoft.com/products/pop-peeper/
This is basically an email notifier, but it has an optional plus patch that allows for rss feeds.
Unfortunately the RSS addon is non free. But you can hide read areticles and delete them; the rss feed is treated like a normal email account.


Re: third party rss readers

Gene
 

It can't be done as far as I can tell.  There is no setting governing this behavior.  This is a serious problem.  The only way to make sure you haven't missed anything is to look at every entry every day.  There is no way to even reduce the problem, as far as I can tell.  I see no way to limit the entries displayed to today's date, which would go a long way toward solving the problem. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] third party rss readers

In an ideal world for me, the feed would simply show me all new articles in chronological order, rather than my having to check each feed individually.  When last I tried the accessible rss client, I couldn't do this.


On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 8:43 PM, slery <slerythema@...> wrote:

Okay, I remember you gave information on this Webbie suite but I can’t find it at the moment. I have been looking for a good replacement for both (one to do both or one for each) text/article feeds and podcasts. My paid for Qfeed just crashed yesterday and I can’t get it back.

Also, I am currently using gpodder for my audio and video podcasts but it is not accessible with NVDA so I have to use it with vision.

 

My main concerns for rss aggregators is that I can hide individual episodes that have been read/played and only show new episodes/articles.

 

Cindy

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] third party rss readers

 

Personally I am very happy with the RSS Reader Program provided free along with the other Webbie Accessible Suite of Programs.

 

There has been a recent slight tsimplification of the program to improve stability where I understand automatic Feed Refresh after the program has been loaded has been removed.

 

I do not personally find this a problem as all I do is cursor down my list of available feeds. I then hit control R which not only refreshes the feed rapidly but also open up the table of available articles in the feed automatically. then  I just  press enter on the Feed article and it will load in your browser.

Press escape in the article list and you will go back to the feed list.

Very simple but it works great.

 

I paid for the QFeed program from Accessible Apps but to be honest this Free program is far far more stable and fast at loading. RSS Reader has never crashed on me whilst this was a frequent problem with QFeed.  Also the support from Alasdair King is good whilst the support on problems with the paid for QFeed is non-existent.

 

 

David Griffith

 

20/11/2016 12:47, Christopher Bartlett wrote:

Has anyone found a desktop rss reader that works well with NVDA?  I'm currently using goread.io, which is a distinctly dissatisfactory service.



--

Christopher Bartlett

 




--
Christopher Bartlett


Re: can't get a favorite oldies station to play in webbie

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I didn't think of that. Thanks for the suggestion.




On 11/20/2016 7:54 PM, Gene wrote:
Did you check to see if popups are allowed? 
 
Gene

Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:18 PM
Subject: [nvda] can't get a favorite oldies station to play in webbie

Hi, everyone,


I just tried to tune in to this program called Treasure Island Oldies
using webbie browser but when I came to the play link, all I got was the
windows 10 system sound. What could be going wrong?


Thanks for your help in advance.


Rosemarie







Re: can't get a favorite oldies station to play in webbie

Gene
 

Did you check to see if popups are allowed? 
 
Gene

Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:18 PM
Subject: [nvda] can't get a favorite oldies station to play in webbie

Hi, everyone,


I just tried to tune in to this program called Treasure Island Oldies
using webbie browser but when I came to the play link, all I got was the
windows 10 system sound. What could be going wrong?


Thanks for your help in advance.


Rosemarie






Re: third party rss readers

Christopher Bartlett
 

In an ideal world for me, the feed would simply show me all new articles in chronological order, rather than my having to check each feed individually.  When last I tried the accessible rss client, I couldn't do this.


On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 8:43 PM, slery <slerythema@...> wrote:

Okay, I remember you gave information on this Webbie suite but I can’t find it at the moment. I have been looking for a good replacement for both (one to do both or one for each) text/article feeds and podcasts. My paid for Qfeed just crashed yesterday and I can’t get it back.

Also, I am currently using gpodder for my audio and video podcasts but it is not accessible with NVDA so I have to use it with vision.

 

My main concerns for rss aggregators is that I can hide individual episodes that have been read/played and only show new episodes/articles.

 

Cindy

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] third party rss readers

 

Personally I am very happy with the RSS Reader Program provided free along with the other Webbie Accessible Suite of Programs.

 

There has been a recent slight tsimplification of the program to improve stability where I understand automatic Feed Refresh after the program has been loaded has been removed.

 

I do not personally find this a problem as all I do is cursor down my list of available feeds. I then hit control R which not only refreshes the feed rapidly but also open up the table of available articles in the feed automatically. then  I just  press enter on the Feed article and it will load in your browser.

Press escape in the article list and you will go back to the feed list.

Very simple but it works great.

 

I paid for the QFeed program from Accessible Apps but to be honest this Free program is far far more stable and fast at loading. RSS Reader has never crashed on me whilst this was a frequent problem with QFeed.  Also the support from Alasdair King is good whilst the support on problems with the paid for QFeed is non-existent.

 

 

David Griffith

 

20/11/2016 12:47, Christopher Bartlett wrote:

Has anyone found a desktop rss reader that works well with NVDA?  I'm currently using goread.io, which is a distinctly dissatisfactory service.



--

Christopher Bartlett

 




--
Christopher Bartlett


can't get a favorite oldies station to play in webbie

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,


I just tried to tune in to this program called Treasure Island Oldies using webbie browser but when I came to the play link, all I got was the windows 10 system sound. What could be going wrong?


Thanks for your help in advance.


Rosemarie


Re: third party rss readers

slery <slerythema@...>
 

Okay, I remember you gave information on this Webbie suite but I can’t find it at the moment. I have been looking for a good replacement for both (one to do both or one for each) text/article feeds and podcasts. My paid for Qfeed just crashed yesterday and I can’t get it back.

Also, I am currently using gpodder for my audio and video podcasts but it is not accessible with NVDA so I have to use it with vision.

 

My main concerns for rss aggregators is that I can hide individual episodes that have been read/played and only show new episodes/articles.

 

Cindy

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] third party rss readers

 

Personally I am very happy with the RSS Reader Program provided free along with the other Webbie Accessible Suite of Programs.

 

There has been a recent slight tsimplification of the program to improve stability where I understand automatic Feed Refresh after the program has been loaded has been removed.

 

I do not personally find this a problem as all I do is cursor down my list of available feeds. I then hit control R which not only refreshes the feed rapidly but also open up the table of available articles in the feed automatically. then  I just  press enter on the Feed article and it will load in your browser.

Press escape in the article list and you will go back to the feed list.

Very simple but it works great.

 

I paid for the QFeed program from Accessible Apps but to be honest this Free program is far far more stable and fast at loading. RSS Reader has never crashed on me whilst this was a frequent problem with QFeed.  Also the support from Alasdair King is good whilst the support on problems with the paid for QFeed is non-existent.

 

 

David Griffith

 

20/11/2016 12:47, Christopher Bartlett wrote:

Has anyone found a desktop rss reader that works well with NVDA?  I'm currently using goread.io, which is a distinctly dissatisfactory service.



--

Christopher Bartlett

 


Re: sea cleaner / just using to wipe drives

 

On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 01:50 pm, Gene wrote:
Please stop changing subject lines unless the subject of the thread changes.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!   I have tried to tell people not to do this because each time they do the thread changes for everyone, not just e-mail users, and it makes it far more difficult in the future to search based on a thread title you might remember when the topic has been centered on X, but with a wide range around X.

Once a thread is started, so long as what is being offered is a continuation of the original query, the subject should not be changed.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



Re: Anti Virus

 

On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 01:55 pm, Gene wrote:
If you have an adequate firewall, you can remain connected to the Internet indefinitely.

 Absolutely.  At this point in time I advise my clients to not turn their computers off at all unless they start getting behaviors (and you can get this on any machine and not from an infection) where your personal experience suggests a power cycling will likely cure it.

With the advent of Windows 10 and "Windows as a service" coupled with the use of the Active Hours setting for Windows Update many, if not most, people will be downloading updates, if not having them actually installed, during their own hours of slumber.

I can find no reason whatsoever to fear being perpetually connected to the internet if you've got Windows Firewall (or one that's part of a third-party security suite or dedicated firewall) active and a virus/malware scanner with realtime scanning running, both of which are "must have" not optional, if a machine has direct or indirect interaction with the internet.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



RE Creating Books with NVDA

David Russell
 

Hello NVDA,
I would like to thank those of you who offered advisement on my
question. I was best able to read responses by Gene and Quenton thus
far from the Digest, and plan to go into the group and read the
individual emails if I can find them all per this topic.

I am glad to know it's doable, but deciding on the route is the tricky
part at the moment and perhaps I should weigh your considerations
alongside the book by Dave Gunn that is recommended. The point being,
no snap decision needs to be made.
Thank you once again!

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...
Character consists of what you do on the third and fourth tries.
James A. Michener


Re: Anti Virus

Gene
 

I'm not sure what you are referring to.  If you have an adequate firewall, you can remain connected to the Internet indefinitely.  Just being connected and not doing anything online won't expose you to malware as long as your firewall is adequate.  A lot of people leave their computers on for long periods of time and don't have to format as a result. 
 
There is a never-ending debate about whether it puts more wear on a machine to leave it on or to turn it off more often but that has no bearing on how often formatting is necessary or desirable. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti Virus

Well one way to make sure you don't get things doing stupid things as
well as configuration is that if you don't need it on turn it off if you
spend more than an hour away from it.
Its how I have kept my system format free for the last  5 years or so.



On 20/11/2016 1:37 p.m., Gene wrote:
> If this is true, it is a disadvantage but for most users, it will make little difference.  If you are unfortunate enough to come in contact with malware very shortly after release, that is, within one day, you would be more likely to be infected.  Most users aren't exposed to new malware that quickly.  While it's better to get frequent updates during the day, most users are not at significantly more danger if they don't.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Roger Stewart
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:21 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti Virus
>
>
> This just isn't true of Defender at all!  I started my machine at 9:57 AM this morning and it got updates to Defender.  I just checked a few minutes ago, and it got a definition update again and it said that update was created at 10:32 AM.  So I was running an out of date definition database for many hours today.  This is a real problem and needs to be addressed by Microsoft.
>
> Roger
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> On 11/19/2016 2:47 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
>
>   hi,
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>   The antivirus I use, avira, has an automatic task to check for updates every 2 hours.
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>   On 11/19/2016 8:48 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
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>     On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 08:00 am, Roger Stewart wrote:
>
>       Only caution I'd give is to do a manual check for updates several times a day as their virus database is updated several times a day but the program will only check itself once when you start the computer.
>      I have not found this to be the case under Windows 10.  If you open Windows Defender you can see when the last virus definition update has taken place, and that's often very recent even when I've had my machine up and running for days.
>
>     This also wasn't the case, at least if I'm recalling correctly, under Windows 8.1 either.  It would make absolutely no sense for any modern antivirus program, and Windows Defender is one, to not auto-update its own definitions and, in fact, itself as new releases are released.
>     --
>     Brian
>
>     Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.
>
>         ~ Lauren Bacall
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Re: sea cleaner / just using to wipe drives

Gene
 

Please stop changing subject lines unless the subject of the thread changes.  The subject is to tell what the message is about.  Not to give other information.  Changing subject lines means that people who read mail by conversation see a new conversation inaccurately indicated when the subject is the same.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 3:13 PM
Subject: [nvda] sea cleaner / just using to wipe drives

It is working perfectly for that function.

Don’t intend to use it for anything else at this point.

 


Re: Anti Virus

 

Well one way to make sure you don't get things doing stupid things as well as configuration is that if you don't need it on turn it off if you spend more than an hour away from it.
Its how I have kept my system format free for the last 5 years or so.

On 20/11/2016 1:37 p.m., Gene wrote:
If this is true, it is a disadvantage but for most users, it will make little difference. If you are unfortunate enough to come in contact with malware very shortly after release, that is, within one day, you would be more likely to be infected. Most users aren't exposed to new malware that quickly. While it's better to get frequent updates during the day, most users are not at significantly more danger if they don't.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Roger Stewart
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti Virus


This just isn't true of Defender at all! I started my machine at 9:57 AM this morning and it got updates to Defender. I just checked a few minutes ago, and it got a definition update again and it said that update was created at 10:32 AM. So I was running an out of date definition database for many hours today. This is a real problem and needs to be addressed by Microsoft.

Roger







On 11/19/2016 2:47 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:

hi,

The antivirus I use, avira, has an automatic task to check for updates every 2 hours.




On 11/19/2016 8:48 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 08:00 am, Roger Stewart wrote:

Only caution I'd give is to do a manual check for updates several times a day as their virus database is updated several times a day but the program will only check itself once when you start the computer.
I have not found this to be the case under Windows 10. If you open Windows Defender you can see when the last virus definition update has taken place, and that's often very recent even when I've had my machine up and running for days.

This also wasn't the case, at least if I'm recalling correctly, under Windows 8.1 either. It would make absolutely no sense for any modern antivirus program, and Windows Defender is one, to not auto-update its own definitions and, in fact, itself as new releases are released.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t.

~ Lauren Bacall












sea cleaner / just using to wipe drives

Richard Kuzma
 

It is working perfectly for that function.

Don’t intend to use it for anything else at this point.

 


Re: sea cleaner is accessible / thanks

 

Well it cleans enough there are enhancers I have seen that can do more but they slow things down, as well as that piriform do not have any malware bar the google stuff and to be honest thats barely malware, as google has most of its services for free.
Its gotten slightly less accessible than it used to be but its still not that bad.
I mostly use its quick run options and no extra monitoring.

On 21/11/2016 9:35 a.m., Георги Ламбов wrote:
Hi!

CCleaner was always accessible with screen readers! I use this program
until about 5 years and I'm very glad with it. I'm not going to change
it although there are many cleaning programs.

Georgi
На 20.11.2016 г. в 20:54 ч., Brian Vogel написа:

CCleaner <https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download/standard>, a
product of Piriform, was known as "Crap Cleaner" way back when at the
time it was first released. It got changed to CCleaner when it became
a commercial product.

Crap Cleaner is an accurate description of its overall function,
though there are other specific ones such as the drive wiper that are
part of it. The main idea is that it goes through your system looking
for files that it knows often get left behind when programs are
installed/uninstalled, browser cache, etc., and removes them to free
up space.

I hasten to add that it has a Registry Cleaner function that I don't
suggest that anyone use. I used to use it and it never harmed any
machine I used it on, but as I've entered into more and more depth
regarding the registry I have become convinced that the camp that says
registry cleaners can unintentionally introduce many more problems
than they solve is correct. Just because it has the function is not a
good reason to use it.
--
*/Brian/*

*/Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
If you’re alive, it isn’t./*

//~ Lauren Bacall



Re: sea cleaner is accessible / thanks

Георги Ламбов <obichamlegiona@...>
 

   Hi!

CCleaner was always accessible with screen readers! I use this program until about 5 years and I'm very glad with it. I'm not going to change it although there are many cleaning programs.

Georgi
На 20.11.2016 г. в 20:54 ч., Brian Vogel написа:

CCleaner, a product of Piriform, was known as "Crap Cleaner" way back when at the time it was first released.  It got changed to CCleaner when it became a commercial product.

Crap Cleaner is an accurate description of its overall function, though there are other specific ones such as the drive wiper that are part of it.  The main idea is that it goes through your system looking for files that it knows often get left behind when programs are installed/uninstalled, browser cache, etc., and removes them to free up space.

I hasten to add that it has a Registry Cleaner function that I don't suggest that anyone use.  I used to use it and it never harmed any machine I used it on, but as I've entered into more and more depth regarding the registry I have become convinced that the camp that says registry cleaners can unintentionally introduce many more problems than they solve is correct.  Just because it has the function is not a good reason to use it.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    




Re: accessible securly disk wiper

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Paragon used to make a disk wiping softeware that was accessible in the windows XP days.  They still have the disk wiping, but it's rolled in with their disk programs (either their partition program or their disk copy program).  Neither one of these programs are 100 percent accessible, but they are likely accessible enough to do the job.  I have both of these programs,, and have used both for various things, though I've not (yet) used either one for wiping a disk, the rest of the utilities are accessible (albeit with some difficulty) with the demo of jaws, though not so much with NVDA which is why I'd been asking about making programs accessible using NVDA scripting.  I have yet to find any way to make an inaccessible program accessible, though I have found multiple ways to make accessible programs inaccessible with NVDA scripting. :)

But anyway, I know this isn't exactly a glowing review of the above programs, but with some effort, they can be made to do what you want, but do be patient.



On 11/20/2016 11:55 AM, Richard Kuzma via Groups.Io wrote:

Good morning,

Does anyone know of any decent accessible disk wiping software?

Thanks

Rich





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