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NVDA Plugin Development - Get text highlighted with mouse

davewp196@...
 

I'm not sure if this the correct forum, but I can attempting to get some more details on how to get the currently highlighted text so that it can be announced.  If this is the wrong, forum, please can you advise on the forums that NVDA developers look at to get this type of question answered.

Basically, I am attempting to create a simple plugin for NVDA, where NVDA is running quietly in the background, but when a specific key-sequence (say NDA+shift+A is pressed) will trigger NVDA to speak the currently highlighted text.  I've found out how to switch on and off the speak mode from a plugin, but I cannot find any API documentation on the methods available, and objects returned from the api python module.

[Background: I am working with a stroke victim who is having difficulty reading blocks of text.  He does not want a full screen reader, he just wants the contents of message bodies read out, and I've spoken to another visually impaired person who would like this type of function.]

Other observation: is it likely that I will need to create application specific plugins for different browsers?  If so, please can somebody point me to the APIs for Google Chrome, Firefox, Edge, and IE.


Announcing version 16.12 of ObjPad and Enhanced Touch Gestures

 

Hi all,

 

I’m delighted to announce the immediate release of version 16.12 of Object Pad (often shortened to ObjPad) and Enhanced Touch Gestures. The biggest highlight is enhanced ways to navigate the web via browse mode.

 

Enhanced Touch Gestures (http://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/enhancedTouchGestures.en.html):

·         Added support for Microsoft Edge, Chrome, PDF’s and other browse mode scenarios (requires NVDA 2016.3 or later installed on a touchscreen computer running Windows 8 and later).

·         Added lists and landmarks to elements you can navigate via web touch mode.

 

ObjPad (http://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/objPad.en.html):

·         Added a fourth mode called “web mode” that allows you to use up or down arrow keys to choose the navigation element and left/right arrows to navigate between elements.

·         Web mode works in Internet Explorer, Firefox, Chrome, Microsoft Edge, Microsoft Word, PDF’s and others where browse mode can be used.

 

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Excel 2016

Jacques <lists4js@...>
 

Control+pageUp / control+PageDown.


Jacques

On Saturday, 26 November 2016 17:42, slery wrote:
How do I move between worksheets in a single workbook?



Cindy


Re: NVDA Commands Not working

Rui Fontes
 

Have you restarted NVDA?

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Ibrahim Ajayi
Data: 26 de novembro de 2016 05:50
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] NVDA Commands Not working

Hi good people: I am unable to get NVDA commands to work. All the
NVDA commands don't wwork, except the arrows, the enter key, and the
tab key. When I press insertplus down arrow, or caps plus down arrow,
to read an entire document, it doesn't work. Just the line I am on is
read, and I still have to keep pressing the down arrow. The
keystrokes for mouse clicks these are either insert plus left arrow or
caps plus left or right arrow also does not work. Inshort all these
commands don't work. So what am I not doing correctly, to get these
keystrokes to work.
Please do kindly help me understand.
I am Ibrahim from Nigeria.


Re: Excel 2016

Rui Fontes
 

Control+Page Down or Control+Page Up.

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: slery
Data: 26 de novembro de 2016 15:42
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] Excel 2016



How do I move between worksheets in a single workbook?



Cindy


Excel 2016

slery <slerythema@...>
 

How do I move between worksheets in a single workbook?

 

Cindy


Re: automatic brows mode

 

hi.
try Automatic Say All on page load
its checked by default.

On 11/26/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
One thing to be aware of, there hasbeen a bug in the second of these
checkboxes in Internet Explorer 11 for about a year, where the effect does

not change. Apparently this is going to be difficult to fix andfor now they

suggest one uses Firefox or just puts up with the fact you cannot cursor
through the focus mode item sometimes with some edit field types.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] automatic brows mode


From the manual:
Automatic focus mode for focus changes
This option allows focus mode to be invoked if focus changes. For example,
when on a web page, if you press tab and you land on a form, if this option

is checked, focus mode will automatically be invoked.
Automatic focus mode for caret movement
This option, when checked, allows NVDA to enter and leave focus mode when
using arrow keys. For example, if arrowing down a webpage and you land on an

edit box, NVDA will automatically bring you into focus mode. If you arrow
out of the edit box, NVDA will put you back in browse mode.
Audio indication of Focus and Browse modes
If this option is enabled, NVDA will play special sounds when it switches
between browse mode and focus mode, rather than speaking the change.

My comments:
One way to open the browse mode dialog is with the command insert b or
insert b if you are using the desktop layout. You can use either insert.
This command may work in the laptop layout as well, I haven't checked.

In this case, we don't know what behavior you want. It isn't just a
question of turning this behavior on and off. Different options cause
different behavior as the manual excerpt shows.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Hi all,

How do I turn on auto brows mode?
Thanks,
Chris
Chris Judd
Twitter administrator for the Missouri Council of the blind.
Follow us on twitter @missouricouncil
Our website is:
http://moblind.org





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Re: NVDA Commands Not working

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

One of the biggest issue I have come across are weird keyboards. I encountered one for Guide yesterday, sold by Dolphin, which has no windows key or an alt/control key, and esc is big and just above the cursors, no function keys and no keypad but a weird key that works a bit like a laptop key.
Insert is on the right second column in.
Nightmare and no home key markings either.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 7:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Commands Not working


Did you switch to the laptop layout? Some commands are different. In the laptop layout, read to end is NVDA key and the letter a.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Ibrahim Ajayi
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 11:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Commands Not working


Hi good people: I am unable to get NVDA commands to work. All the
NVDA commands don't wwork, except the arrows, the enter key, and the
tab key. When I press insertplus down arrow, or caps plus down arrow,
to read an entire document, it doesn't work. Just the line I am on is
read, and I still have to keep pressing the down arrow. The
keystrokes for mouse clicks these are either insert plus left arrow or
caps plus left or right arrow also does not work. Inshort all these
commands don't work. So what am I not doing correctly, to get these
keystrokes to work.
Please do kindly help me understand.
I am Ibrahim from Nigeria.


Re: automatic brows mode

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

One thing to be aware of, there hasbeen a bug in the second of these checkboxes in Internet Explorer 11 for about a year, where the effect does not change. Apparently this is going to be difficult to fix andfor now they suggest one uses Firefox or just puts up with the fact you cannot cursor through the focus mode item sometimes with some edit field types.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] automatic brows mode


From the manual:
Automatic focus mode for focus changes
This option allows focus mode to be invoked if focus changes. For example, when on a web page, if you press tab and you land on a form, if this option is checked, focus mode will automatically be invoked.
Automatic focus mode for caret movement
This option, when checked, allows NVDA to enter and leave focus mode when using arrow keys. For example, if arrowing down a webpage and you land on an edit box, NVDA will automatically bring you into focus mode. If you arrow out of the edit box, NVDA will put you back in browse mode.
Audio indication of Focus and Browse modes
If this option is enabled, NVDA will play special sounds when it switches between browse mode and focus mode, rather than speaking the change.

My comments:
One way to open the browse mode dialog is with the command insert b or insert b if you are using the desktop layout. You can use either insert. This command may work in the laptop layout as well, I haven't checked.

In this case, we don't know what behavior you want. It isn't just a question of turning this behavior on and off. Different options cause different behavior as the manual excerpt shows.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Hi all,

How do I turn on auto brows mode?
Thanks,
Chris
Chris Judd
Twitter administrator for the Missouri Council of the blind.
Follow us on twitter @missouricouncil
Our website is:
http://moblind.org


Re: NVDA Commands Not working

Gene
 

Did you switch to the laptop layout?  Some commands are different.  In the laptop layout, read to end is NVDA key and the letter a.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 11:50 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Commands Not working

Hi good people: I am unable to get NVDA commands to work.  All the
NVDA commands don't wwork, except the arrows, the enter key, and the
tab key.  When I press insertplus down arrow, or caps plus down arrow,
to read an entire document, it doesn't work.  Just the line I am on is
read, and I still have to keep pressing the down arrow.  The
keystrokes for mouse clicks these are either insert plus left arrow or
caps plus left or right arrow also does not work.  Inshort all these
commands don't work.  So what am I not doing correctly, to get these
keystrokes to work.
Please do kindly help me understand.
I am Ibrahim from Nigeria.



NVDA Commands Not working

Ibrahim Ajayi
 

Hi good people: I am unable to get NVDA commands to work. All the
NVDA commands don't wwork, except the arrows, the enter key, and the
tab key. When I press insertplus down arrow, or caps plus down arrow,
to read an entire document, it doesn't work. Just the line I am on is
read, and I still have to keep pressing the down arrow. The
keystrokes for mouse clicks these are either insert plus left arrow or
caps plus left or right arrow also does not work. Inshort all these
commands don't work. So what am I not doing correctly, to get these
keystrokes to work.
Please do kindly help me understand.
I am Ibrahim from Nigeria.


Re: Important announcements about add-ons: localization updates, release schedule for various add-ons, NVDA 2016.4 implications

Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xaviers@...>
 

you have to install over old versions manually but i wish they would
be auto updated

On 11/26/16, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Installing over old version.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 3:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Important announcements about add-ons: localization
updates, release schedule for various add-ons, NVDA 2016.4 implications

when addon updates are made available do you have to manually download and
install them over the old versions or are they auto updated?






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Re: automatic brows mode

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Gene,

 

I do know about automatic focus mode. I think that's what the original poster meant--not browse mode.

 

Rosemarie

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 5:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] automatic brows mode

 

From the manual:

Automatic focus mode for focus changes
This option allows focus mode to be invoked if focus changes. For example, when on a web page, if you press tab and you land on a form, if this option is checked, focus mode will automatically be invoked.
Automatic focus mode for caret movement
This option, when checked, allows NVDA to enter and leave focus mode when using arrow keys. For example, if arrowing down a webpage and you land on an edit box, NVDA will automatically bring you into focus mode. If you arrow out of the edit box, NVDA will put you back in browse mode.
Audio indication of Focus and Browse modes
If this option is enabled, NVDA will play special sounds when it switches between browse mode and focus mode, rather than speaking the change.

 

My comments:

One way to open the browse mode dialog is with the command insert b or insert b if you are using the desktop layout. You can use either insert.  This command may work in the laptop layout as well, I haven't checked.

 

In this case, we don't know what behavior you want.  It isn't just a question of turning this behavior on and off.  Different options cause different behavior as the manual excerpt shows.

 

Gene

 ----- Original Message -----

> Hi all,
>
> How do I turn on auto brows mode?
> Thanks,
> Chris
> Chris Judd
> Twitter administrator for the Missouri Council of the blind.
> Follow us on twitter @missouricouncil
> Our website is:
> http://moblind.org
>


Re: automatic brows mode

Gene
 

From the manual:
Automatic focus mode for focus changes
This option allows focus mode to be invoked if focus changes. For example, when on a web page, if you press tab and you land on a form, if this option is checked, focus mode will automatically be invoked.
Automatic focus mode for caret movement
This option, when checked, allows NVDA to enter and leave focus mode when using arrow keys. For example, if arrowing down a webpage and you land on an edit box, NVDA will automatically bring you into focus mode. If you arrow out of the edit box, NVDA will put you back in browse mode.
Audio indication of Focus and Browse modes
If this option is enabled, NVDA will play special sounds when it switches between browse mode and focus mode, rather than speaking the change.
 
My comments:
One way to open the browse mode dialog is with the command insert b or insert b if you are using the desktop layout. You can use either insert.  This command may work in the laptop layout as well, I haven't checked.
 
In this case, we don't know what behavior you want.  It isn't just a question of turning this behavior on and off.  Different options cause different behavior as the manual excerpt shows.
 
Gene

 ----- Original Message -----
> Hi all,
>
> How do I turn on auto brows mode?
> Thanks,
> Chris
> Chris Judd
> Twitter administrator for the Missouri Council of the blind.
> Follow us on twitter @missouricouncil
> Our website is:
> http://moblind.org
>



Re: automatic brows mode

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I never heard of automatic browse mode.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andre Fisher
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 5:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] automatic brows mode

What do you mean by this exactly? This is not, by it's name, native to NVDA, so you would have to explain in further detail.

On 11/25/16, Chris Judd <chrischas0805@charter.net> wrote:
Hi all,

How do I turn on auto brows mode?
Thanks,
Chris
Chris Judd
Twitter administrator for the Missouri Council of the blind.
Follow us on twitter @missouricouncil
Our website is:
http://moblind.org


Re: automatic brows mode

Andre Fisher
 

What do you mean by this exactly? This is not, by it's name, native to
NVDA, so you would have to explain in further detail.

On 11/25/16, Chris Judd <chrischas0805@charter.net> wrote:
Hi all,

How do I turn on auto brows mode?
Thanks,
Chris
Chris Judd
Twitter administrator for the Missouri Council of the blind.
Follow us on twitter @missouricouncil
Our website is:
http://moblind.org


automatic brows mode

Chris Judd
 

Hi all,
 
How do I turn on auto brows mode?
Thanks,
Chris
Chris Judd
Twitter administrator for the Missouri Council of the blind.
Follow us on twitter @missouricouncil
Our website is:
http://moblind.org


Re: can't sign in to my gmail account

Gene
 

I'm not sure what you might do to solve the problem other than send the support team a message.  If you have problems finding how to do this, someone on list will very likely help you.  I saw an item when I looked at help that discussed being locked out briefly but it didn't give any actions to take.  It was discussing a temporary lockout and said it might last for from one minute to 24 hours.  It also said there are no actions you can take.  I don't know if you are temporarily locked out or if you are locked out in a way that requires action of some sort.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't sign in to my gmail account

My username and password.




On 11/25/2016 4:19 PM, Gene wrote:
What does it ask for?
 
Please give details when describing a problem.  Details may be important even if you think they aren't.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't sign in to my gmail account

No. It just keeps asking me for the same thing over and over again.




On 11/25/2016 3:45 PM, Gene wrote:
I thought the page that comes up that tells you your account is blocked would have instructions or a link to more information.  I don't recall what happened when my account was blocked awhile ago.  But I unblocked it and I thought it likely that there was information on the page or a linkk that helped me with the problem.
 
When you try to log in, is there a page with any further information?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't sign in to my gmail account

Hi, Gene,

 

I tried doing a google search on how to unlock my account but couldn't find any instructions. Yes, I think I did see where you can create message rules on the server side awhile back.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 12:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't sign in to my gmail account

 

Does the web page give you instructions about how to unblock the account?  I believe it does.

 

Also, I believe that if you create message rules on the server, you won't need to create them in Thunderbird. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 2:24 PM

Subject: [nvda] can't sign in to my gmail account

 

Hi, everyone,

 

I can't sign in to my gmail account. I don't know why I'm locked out.

 

Rosemarie

 

 




Re: FW: [ttz] For Joseph NVDA and amazon.com

Gene
 

Trying another browser might solve the problem.  Or the following might also solve the problem:
Tab to the go button or search button or whatever it's called after typing your search.  I don't know if browse mode will be on or off at that point.  I don't use automatic turning of browse mode off and on so I don't know.  but make sure whether it's off or on.  use the command numpad insert space or insert space.  Either one will work.  It's a toggle.  Repeat the command if necessary until you hear something like browse off.  or you may hear a sound of some sort.  I turn off the sounds and I don't know what you will hear indicating that browse mode is on or off.  There is a different sound for each.  When you are sure its off, press enter or the space bar on the button.  If one doesn't work, try the other.  I don't know what is causing the problem but this is not typical behavior.  You might also try the NVDA bypass command before activating the button, though that shouldn't make any difference if you have followed my instructions correctly.
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 6:31 PM
Subject: FW: [nvda] FW: [ttz] For Joseph NVDA and amazon.com

 

 

From: the-tech-zone@groups.io [mailto:the-tech-zone@groups.io] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 4:31 PM
To: the-tech-zone@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: [ttz] For Joseph NVDA and amazon.com

 

       

Well I use IE 11. I have no issues with jaws and window eyes in amazon.com When I am in the search box and enter on it to activate it nothing happens. This is an NVDA issue. Again JAWS and Window Eyes works with the page. I can not even enter on the links.

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 6:25 PM

Subject: FW: [nvda] FW: [ttz] For Joseph NVDA and amazon.com

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 4:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: [ttz] For Joseph NVDA and amazon.com

 

I didn't see any way to e-mail this person.  My suggestion is to try another browser.  I don't know what the problem is but it is not expected and there may be some sort of compatibility problem between the browser and NVDA in this case that isn't generally seen.  Also, my question is what command is being used for search and does it work on other sites?  We shouldn't assume anything.  The message implies that search works on other sites.  But this should be verified.  So if you don't have another browser installed, my question should be considered first.  In other words, is this just a problem on one web site and what command is being used?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 2:30 PM

Subject: [nvda] FW: [ttz] For Joseph NVDA and amazon.com

 

Hi,

Anyone help this person please? Thanks.

 

From: the-tech-zone@groups.io [mailto:the-tech-zone@groups.io] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 12:14 PM
To: the-tech-zone@groups.io
Subject: [ttz] For Joseph NVDA and amazon.com

 

 


FYI. Still not working withiwth with amazon.com can not do search. I have to turn off NVDA and use the 45 minute demo of JAWS. Not nice specially when I want to see for any deal in amazon.
Holger Fiallo


Re: can't sign in to my gmail account

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

My username and password.




On 11/25/2016 4:19 PM, Gene wrote:
What does it ask for?
 
Please give details when describing a problem.  Details may be important even if you think they aren't.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't sign in to my gmail account

No. It just keeps asking me for the same thing over and over again.




On 11/25/2016 3:45 PM, Gene wrote:
I thought the page that comes up that tells you your account is blocked would have instructions or a link to more information.  I don't recall what happened when my account was blocked awhile ago.  But I unblocked it and I thought it likely that there was information on the page or a linkk that helped me with the problem.
 
When you try to log in, is there a page with any further information?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't sign in to my gmail account

Hi, Gene,

 

I tried doing a google search on how to unlock my account but couldn't find any instructions. Yes, I think I did see where you can create message rules on the server side awhile back.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 12:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't sign in to my gmail account

 

Does the web page give you instructions about how to unblock the account?  I believe it does.

 

Also, I believe that if you create message rules on the server, you won't need to create them in Thunderbird. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 2:24 PM

Subject: [nvda] can't sign in to my gmail account

 

Hi, everyone,

 

I can't sign in to my gmail account. I don't know why I'm locked out.

 

Rosemarie