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Re: Paid Tutorials?

Brice Mijares
 

I'd also be interested only if it was in MP3 format.

On 12/5/2016 5:39 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Where do I go to purchase the paid NVDA audio tutorials, and how much
are they in USD?

I need to check my finances, but I'm almost 100% sure I can do it. I'd
like to do this if I can. I feel that I am fairly comfortable at this
point with NVDA, but some of the more advanced things, I could probably
use some brushing up on. Plus, I'm horrible! and I do mean horrible! at
memorizing the laptop keyboard layout, which is a real problem, as the
laptop I'm using doesn't have a keypad.

Chris.

Re: Is any release prior to the latest stable release, and the next RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease

Gene
 

There are other players that I would think are as good or better than Potplayer.  Winamp, though it hasn't been upgraded by the developers for quite some time, is still a very convenient player to use.  VCL Player is liked by a lot of people.  I've hardly used it but a lot of blind people like it.  there are others as well. 
 
When using software, if something doesn't work well or is not properly accessible, no matter how much sighted people rave about it, there are often as good or almost as good or better programs that are used by blind people that do the same things or more things better.  Sighted people may think PotPlayer is wonderful.  I doubt it is any better than some other players available that are popular among blind people.  In cases where a program isn't satisfactory, asking for alternatives is a very good idea.  I suspect the reason I haven't heard of PotPlayer until now is because it is very unsatisfactory from a blind access point of view.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 2:57 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable release, and the next RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease

quentin,
thanks extremely for your kindness and help!
as i mentioned in the github, someone told that the problem persists
on windows 7 using windows media player.
but for me that only use potplayer is a very big issue.
many websites rated potplayer as the best players!
its the perfected version of kmplayer without advertisements of km.
it supports many language in its interface and also many format of
audio and video files with great quality.
if nvda becomes unresponsive when openning and closing one file, when
you try many files this problem eventually happen with the next files.
here you are the link of downloading 32 version which works both on 32
and 64 bit windows.

the github requested me log file which i provided and wanted second
file which i was not familiar with temp files and could not send it.
here you are the link hope you use it and enjoy it!
http://daumpotplayer.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/PotPlayerSetup.exe

its completely free and i provided the link from the program company.

On 12/5/16, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
> Hi Nasrin,
>
> Is Potplayer freely available?  If so, do you have a URL please and I will
> download and test it myself as well.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 5:48 PM, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
> wrote:
>
>> hi quentin.
>> i decided to stay on 2015.3 for always because in the latest versions
>> nvda has problems with potplayer and when i press alt+f4 nvda when i
>> press start menu says unknown and its a big issue for me.
>> because i only use potplayer and when i open files, most of times, i
>> should use alt+control+n to revert nvda to its normal working.
>> 15.3 until 16.2 were more stable for me.
>> but since 16.2 and 3, sometimes nvda says nothing or becomes completely
>> silent.
>> in this case, i afraid of maybe my system is hacked or my windows has
>> problems or not working properly.
>>
>> github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues.6513its for potplayer and some others
>> players and for the problem in espeak new version with farsi
>> punctuations
>> github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6514
>>
>> but i realy love the new features of nvda including selection of
>> documents and impprovements in using firefox and now, i use 16.3
>> could you please solve the problem which i mentioned in 16.4 to use it
>> without any issues?
>> thanks extremely quentin.
>> do you have skype account for further details and contact about
>> different subjects?
>>
>>
>> On 12/5/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> > I mainly use an old version because I don't use new NVDA features, as I
>> said
>> > before.  But also, I prefer the old way of using what was called Flat
>> > Review.  I prefer always being in screen review when I activate review
>> mode
>> > in the old version and the automatic return to object navigation when I
>> > switch to another window.  I could get used to the new system but since
>> > I
>> > don't need to, I don't bother.
>> >
>> > Also, I don't think there is any way to import the speech dictionaries
>> other
>> > then to actually copy and paste the files.  I could do that easily
>> > enough
>> > but I don't since I have no need.  But I am reminded of something
>> regarding
>> > the dictionaries.  I think there should be an export and an import
>> > dictionaries item in the dictionary interface itself.
>> >
>> > Gene
>> > From: Quentin Christensen
>> > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 5:55 PM
>> > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> > Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable release,
>> and
>> > the next RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Brian,
>> >
>> >
>> > Essentially only the latest stable (and currently as you noted, RC)
>> versions
>> > of NVDA are supported, in that if we fix a bug, that fix will only go
>> into a
>> > new build.
>> >
>> >
>> > Ideally, if someone is having a problem and finds that reverting to an
>> > earlier build resolves the issue, we'd very much prefer they
>> > communicate
>> > that to us via a GitHub issue, or at least here on the list or to me
>> > personally so that we can endeavour to resolve it.  The current version
>> > should still work at least as far back as Windows XP (If anyone is
>> > using
>> > Windows 98 or earlier, I'd be curious to hear your experiences with
>> > NVDA
>> > just for my own interest if nothing else).
>> >
>> >
>> > Perhaps this thread might be a good place for anyone who is using a
>> version
>> > of NVDA prior to 2016.3, to share why that is? I can ensure that any
>> issues
>> > are recorded on GitHub, but I'd also be able to compile a list that I
>> > can
>> > take back to Mick and Jamie and say "these are issues that are
>> > currently
>> > keeping users on old versions of NVDA".
>> >
>> >
>> > Kind regards
>> >
>> >
>> > Quentin.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >   The subject pretty much asks it all.
>> >
>> >   In topic after topic I see people saying that they're using old,
>> > often
>> > really old, versions of NVDA.  That is entirely their choice, and I'm
>> > not
>> > questioning that.
>> >
>> >   What I'd like to know is how many versions, if any, other than the
>> latest
>> > stable release and the RC releases, are "officially" supported by
>> NVAccess.
>> >
>> >   Knowing how much change occurs as releases roll out over time I know
>> it's
>> > impossible to keep supporting prior releases in perpetuity or anything
>> close
>> > to it.  I also know that it generally makes no sense to try to
>> > replicate
>> a
>> > bug in a release different than the one it's been detected in except as
>> an
>> > effort to determine if it is a "carry forward" that was previously
>> > undetected versus newly introduced.
>> >
>> >   It's almost impossible to know "what's what" unless individuals using
>> NVDA
>> > are all using the latest stable version so far as issue reporting goes.
>> > That's why, particularly for open-source software, I make it a habit to
>> > religiously upgrade to the latest release whether I need the latest
>> "bells
>> > and whistles" or not.  Unless there is some really buggy release (and
>> > I'm
>> > talking generally, not NVDA in particular) it just makes everyone's
>> > lives
>> > much easier.
>> >   --
>> >   Brian
>> >
>> >
>> >   Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
>> If
>> > you’re alive, it isn’t.
>> >
>> >       ~ Lauren Bacall
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Quentin Christensen
>> > Training Material Developer
>> > Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now
>> > available:
>> > http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>> >
>> >
>> > Ph +61 7 3149 3306
>> > Direct: +61 413 904 383
>> > www.nvaccess.org
>> > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>> > Twitter: @NVAccess
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
>> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
>> in the very authentic narration is:
>> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
>> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
>> al-islam.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Quentin Christensen
> Training Material Developer
> Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>
> Ph +61 7 3149 3306
> Direct: +61 413 904 383
> www.nvaccess.org
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org



Re: Bypassing key commands

 

hi.
pressing f11 i think you can control other computer and pressing
again, you return to your system.

On 12/5/16, Christopher-Mark Gilland <@AHeart4God316> wrote:
I need to know both with the desktop layout, as well as the laptop layout
the command for passing a key through to the OS which may otherwise conflict
with NVDA commands.

The situation is, I'm working with someone trying to use the NVDA Remote
addon. The issue is, the app we're using that I need to help her with uses
the F11 key for one of its core functions. If I hit F11, it's gonna toggle
between her PC and mine. So, how do I pass that F11 key through while on her
system, or for that mind, on mine?

Chris.
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

Paid Tutorials?

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


Where do I go to purchase the paid NVDA audio tutorials, and how much are they in USD?
 
I need to check my finances, but I'm almost 100% sure I can do it. I'd like to do this if I can. I feel that I am fairly comfortable at this point with NVDA, but some of the more advanced things, I could probably use some brushing up on. Plus, I'm horrible! and I do mean horrible! at memorizing the laptop keyboard layout, which is a real problem, as the laptop I'm using doesn't have a keypad.
 
Chris.

Bypassing key commands

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


I need to know both with the desktop layout, as well as the laptop layout the command for passing a key through to the OS which may otherwise conflict with NVDA commands.
 
The situation is, I'm working with someone trying to use the NVDA Remote addon. The issue is, the app we're using that I need to help her with uses the F11 key for one of its core functions. If I hit F11, it's gonna toggle between her PC and mine. So, how do I pass that F11 key through while on her system, or for that mind, on mine?
 
Chris.

Re: NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

This is wonderful! Are these the paid tutorials that NVDA devs are putting together?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene New Zealand" <hurrikennyandopo@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 5:26 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net


Hi guys

It is Gene NZ (who is putting together the AccessibilityCentral.net
website).
Some people are aware of it and there are a few that are not. It is a
blindness related website where I also post both written and audio
tutorials for the NVDA screen reader, along with other blindness related
material.

These are fairly easy to follow, (that is they are step by step
instructions) and for a desktop computer.
They are basically, to get a new user of NVDA up and running.

At present, any that are written are identified under a heading on the
main AccessibilityCentral.net homepage of the website. The heading is
called pages recently updated, and they are listed below this heading or
put onto my AccessibilityCentral.net facebook page.

I have had a few people also suggest that when these tutorials go up (or
are passed on) to do with the NVDA screen reader, that I should let the
list know each time that they go up. These tutorials will only be the
ones that end up on the website. The notification will state on which
page they are on, or have come off. I will be doing this from now on.

One of the tutorials that has extra information put into it is called
Accessible email client Mozilla Thunderbird.
There are 10 sections added in, starting from the following heading
called How to navigate Mozilla Thunderbird with NVDA.

The page can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

There is also another tutorial by David Moore, that covers the Windows
10 Mail app (which can be found off the NVDA tutorials for other
programs page). The direct link to this tutorial can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/How%20to%20use%20the%20Mail%20app%20in%20Windows%2010%20with%20NVDA.html

I will add more tutorials to this thread as they are written up.

Gene NZ


--

<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries



Re: Is any release prior to the latest stable release, and the next RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease

Jacob Kruger
 

Just killed the app with alt+f4, while it was busy playing a track, and, NVDA is still cooperating/working fine here, but, might be to do with something else, like OS version, or something?


What mean is it doesn't seem to be acting like that at all here on my side.


And, I even tried making sure NVDA and it were using same TTS engine/voice, just in case it could then cause hassles, but, seemed fine.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-12-05 14:52, nasrin khaksar wrote:
the problem is crashing of nvda after playing files and pressing alt+f4
nvda becomes not responding and for example: when i enter on start
botton, nvda says only unknown and not the options in start menu!
i did not try 64 bit, but i press application key to go to the menus
and also preferences.

On 12/5/16, Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:
I had previously tried out 64 bit version, but, now went and downloaded
the version you posted the link to, and, it seems pretty much the same
to me, whether I use the current release candidate for NVDA 2016.4, or
if I roll back to a portable copy of NVDA 2016.2?


What mean is interface seems pretty much the same to me, and, when now
invoked context menu, brought up preferences dialogue, and under
accessibility, among scanning through settings, turned on UIA (user
interface automation), it did seem to work fine with both versions of
NVDA, but, this was my first time ever really using it, so not sure what
part of interface is an issue on your side, while working with latest
versions of NVDA?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-12-05 13:37, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi.
potplayer is a very long time thats completely accessible!
whats the different between my link and yours?
i did not test the second link but the first link which i always use,
is the website of the programmers and owners of the softwares.
potplayer preference was not accessible in its old versions via keyboard.
but now, its accessibility is realy great and even now, they put one
option for accessibility!

On 12/5/16, Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:
Quentin, HYG:

https://potplayer.daum.net/


But, gave it a quick test run, and, my guess is that it doesn't offer
much in t4erms of accessibility, etc. - no menu suystems that could
activate using alt + key combo's, etc., so not sure it would be
something I would want to work with as such.


stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-12-05 10:20, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Nasrin,

Is Potplayer freely available? If so, do you have a URL please and I
will download and test it myself as well.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 5:48 PM, nasrin khaksar
<nasrinkhaksar3@... <mailto:nasrinkhaksar3@...>> wrote:

hi quentin.
i decided to stay on 2015.3 for always because in the latest
versions
nvda has problems with potplayer and when i press alt+f4 nvda when
i
press start menu says unknown and its a big issue for me.
because i only use potplayer and when i open files, most of times,
i
should use alt+control+n to revert nvda to its normal working.
15.3 until 16.2 were more stable for me.
but since 16.2 and 3, sometimes nvda says nothing or becomes
completely silent.
in this case, i afraid of maybe my system is hacked or my windows
has
problems or not working properly.

github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues.6513its
<http://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues.6513its> for potplayer and
some others
players and for the problem in espeak new version with farsi
punctuations
github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6514
<http://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6514>

but i realy love the new features of nvda including selection of
documents and impprovements in using firefox and now, i use 16.3
could you please solve the problem which i mentioned in 16.4 to
use
it
without any issues?
thanks extremely quentin.
do you have skype account for further details and contact about
different subjects?


On 12/5/16, Gene <gsasner@... <mailto:gsasner@...>>
wrote:
> I mainly use an old version because I don't use new NVDA
features, as I said
> before. But also, I prefer the old way of using what was called
Flat
> Review. I prefer always being in screen review when I activate
review mode
> in the old version and the automatic return to object navigation
when I
> switch to another window. I could get used to the new system
but since I
> don't need to, I don't bother.
>
> Also, I don't think there is any way to import the speech
dictionaries other
> then to actually copy and paste the files. I could do that
easily enough
> but I don't since I have no need. But I am reminded of
something regarding
> the dictionaries. I think there should be an export and an
import
> dictionaries item in the dictionary interface itself.
>
> Gene
> From: Quentin Christensen
> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 5:55 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable
release, and
> the next RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease
>
>
> Hi Brian,
>
>
> Essentially only the latest stable (and currently as you noted,
RC) versions
> of NVDA are supported, in that if we fix a bug, that fix will
only go into a
> new build.
>
>
> Ideally, if someone is having a problem and finds that reverting
to an
> earlier build resolves the issue, we'd very much prefer they
communicate
> that to us via a GitHub issue, or at least here on the list or
to
me
> personally so that we can endeavour to resolve it. The current
version
> should still work at least as far back as Windows XP (If anyone
is using
> Windows 98 or earlier, I'd be curious to hear your experiences
with NVDA
> just for my own interest if nothing else).
>
>
> Perhaps this thread might be a good place for anyone who is
using a version
> of NVDA prior to 2016.3, to share why that is? I can ensure that
any issues
> are recorded on GitHub, but I'd also be able to compile a list
that I can
> take back to Mick and Jamie and say "these are issues that are
currently
> keeping users on old versions of NVDA".
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
> Quentin.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Brian Vogel
<@britechguy <mailto:@britechguy>> wrote:
>
> The subject pretty much asks it all.
>
> In topic after topic I see people saying that they're using
old, often
> really old, versions of NVDA. That is entirely their choice,
and I'm not
> questioning that.
>
> What I'd like to know is how many versions, if any, other than
the latest
> stable release and the RC releases, are "officially" supported
by NVAccess.
>
> Knowing how much change occurs as releases roll out over time
I know it's
> impossible to keep supporting prior releases in perpetuity or
anything close
> to it. I also know that it generally makes no sense to try to
replicate a
> bug in a release different than the one it's been detected in
except as an
> effort to determine if it is a "carry forward" that was
previously
> undetected versus newly introduced.
>
> It's almost impossible to know "what's what" unless
individuals using NVDA
> are all using the latest stable version so far as issue
reporting goes.
> That's why, particularly for open-source software, I make it a
habit to
> religiously upgrade to the latest release whether I need the
latest "bells
> and whistles" or not. Unless there is some really buggy release
(and I'm
> talking generally, not NVDA in particular) it just makes
everyone's lives
> much easier.
> --
> Brian
>
>
> Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is
complete. If
> you’re alive, it isn’t.
>
> ~ Lauren Bacall
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Quentin Christensen
> Training Material Developer
> Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now
available:
> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>
>
> Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
> Direct: +61 413 904 383 <tel:%2B61%20413%20904%20383>
> www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org>
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
<http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>
> Twitter: @NVAccess
>
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org <http://al-islam.org>






--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now
available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: Braille Display and NVDA

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


Well, that would then partially explain why I couldn't get this Alva of mine working with the parallel connecter in JFW, although, we're speaking here of NVDA, so I'll leave that to rest, but yeah. It does shed a little more light on things, although, it still doesn't explain why with USB it's not working, especially being that though I don't have a power cord, this thing can! be bus powered with USB.
 
So, getting back to NVDA, yeah, on my 64 bit Win10 system, if I could get this Alva Sattelite 584 USB Pro 80 cell working, I'd love you guys forever! I hear past Windows7, it was pretty dicy. I also however happen to know that there were a few people who figured out how to get it working. I don't know who they were specifically, but so I'm told of this. I hear it was a bit tricky, but it could be done. So with David's Power Braille, and with my Alva, if anyone in either case has any ideas then do let us know. It's very possible with the BRLTTY and what not driver, I may just not a known completely what I was doing, but the guy who sold me this Alva spent about an hour and a half with me on the phone trying to get this darn thing to work with NVDA, and we just cannot for the life of us figure this out.
 
Chris.
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Braille Display and NVDA

I just had another quick look and couldn't find a driver for you I'm afraid.  I did find this release about changes to Braille display drivers in Jaws 11 and a comment to the release notes that they removed support for serial port connections, so I'm not sure whether the PowerBraille would work on a version of Jaws later than 11.

On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 3:17 PM, David <trailerdavid@...> wrote:

Thanks,

No I do not have any driver for the display at all. Have used it with Window-Eyes, and that screen reader has built-in support for the display, right out of the box. The display runs off either a Parallel port, or alternatively you can set it to run off the Serial Com-port (RS232). No USB ports on these models, guess they are too old for that. Smiles.


I hope someone out there, might be sitting on some sort of driver, that at least I could give it all a try. Will have to test out your suggestions, but won't be able to do so for a couple of weeks, since my display currently is packed down from moving.



David
On 12/5/2016 12:38 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi David,

I haven't tried a PowerBraille.  I know the Focus and Pac Mate series work with the Freedom Scientific driver, so it might be worth, if you have the PowerBraille driver available, trying that?  I had a look on the Freedom Scientific site but can't find the drivers readily available to download.  I did find an issue on our GitHub which was filed using a PowerBraille 40 (although mentioning it was made by TeleSensory - perhaps a difference device or an earlier company?)  That issue looks like they were using Brltty, so could be worth trying that too?

Sorry I can't offer anything more concrete!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 7:01 AM, David <trailerdavid@...> wrote:
OK, I know this is kind of old-fashioned. Thing is, I do have a
PowerBraille 80 display here, which I have successfully been using with
another screen reader.

I think I did look in the list of Braille displays in NVDA awhile ago,
and did NOT find the PowerBraille 80 listed there. Is my memory correct?
If so, can I use any other driver, or does there exist a driver for this
display under NVDA? The display works just fine, so would be great to
use it even with the free screen reader.

Thanks for any feedback.







--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 





--
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Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 

Re: Braille Display and NVDA

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


Also, did anyone see my message within this same thread about my Alva? I'm basically in the same boat as David is with his! display. I have both an Alva Sattelite 584 Pro but because of getting it used, I don't have a power cord. I gotta run it bus powered via USB. I've tried all the things like Libbraille, BRLTTY, etc, but with NVDA, I can't get it working, regardless 32 bit or 64 bit Windows. I've tried on XP all the way up to Windows 10, and it just won't cut it. The only way I've gotten it working is in JAWS 15 on my 32 bit XP machine, which flat out sucks! I really would like to use this on a newer system like Windows 10, as it's such a great display! The only other option would be using this thing on my mac, which I've done successfully many of times, by the way.

----- Original Message -----
From: David
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Braille Display and NVDA

Thanks,

No I do not have any driver for the display at all. Have used it with Window-Eyes, and that screen reader has built-in support for the display, right out of the box. The display runs off either a Parallel port, or alternatively you can set it to run off the Serial Com-port (RS232). No USB ports on these models, guess they are too old for that. Smiles.


I hope someone out there, might be sitting on some sort of driver, that at least I could give it all a try. Will have to test out your suggestions, but won't be able to do so for a couple of weeks, since my display currently is packed down from moving.



David
On 12/5/2016 12:38 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi David,

I haven't tried a PowerBraille.  I know the Focus and Pac Mate series work with the Freedom Scientific driver, so it might be worth, if you have the PowerBraille driver available, trying that?  I had a look on the Freedom Scientific site but can't find the drivers readily available to download.  I did find an issue on our GitHub which was filed using a PowerBraille 40 (although mentioning it was made by TeleSensory - perhaps a difference device or an earlier company?)  That issue looks like they were using Brltty, so could be worth trying that too?

Sorry I can't offer anything more concrete!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 7:01 AM, David <trailerdavid@...> wrote:
OK, I know this is kind of old-fashioned. Thing is, I do have a
PowerBraille 80 display here, which I have successfully been using with
another screen reader.

I think I did look in the list of Braille displays in NVDA awhile ago,
and did NOT find the PowerBraille 80 listed there. Is my memory correct?
If so, can I use any other driver, or does there exist a driver for this
display under NVDA? The display works just fine, so would be great to
use it even with the free screen reader.

Thanks for any feedback.







--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Is any release prior to the latest stable release, and the next RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease

 

the problem is crashing of nvda after playing files and pressing alt+f4
nvda becomes not responding and for example: when i enter on start
botton, nvda says only unknown and not the options in start menu!
i did not try 64 bit, but i press application key to go to the menus
and also preferences.

On 12/5/16, Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:
I had previously tried out 64 bit version, but, now went and downloaded
the version you posted the link to, and, it seems pretty much the same
to me, whether I use the current release candidate for NVDA 2016.4, or
if I roll back to a portable copy of NVDA 2016.2?


What mean is interface seems pretty much the same to me, and, when now
invoked context menu, brought up preferences dialogue, and under
accessibility, among scanning through settings, turned on UIA (user
interface automation), it did seem to work fine with both versions of
NVDA, but, this was my first time ever really using it, so not sure what
part of interface is an issue on your side, while working with latest
versions of NVDA?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-12-05 13:37, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi.
potplayer is a very long time thats completely accessible!
whats the different between my link and yours?
i did not test the second link but the first link which i always use,
is the website of the programmers and owners of the softwares.
potplayer preference was not accessible in its old versions via keyboard.
but now, its accessibility is realy great and even now, they put one
option for accessibility!

On 12/5/16, Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:
Quentin, HYG:

https://potplayer.daum.net/


But, gave it a quick test run, and, my guess is that it doesn't offer
much in t4erms of accessibility, etc. - no menu suystems that could
activate using alt + key combo's, etc., so not sure it would be
something I would want to work with as such.


stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-12-05 10:20, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Nasrin,

Is Potplayer freely available? If so, do you have a URL please and I
will download and test it myself as well.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 5:48 PM, nasrin khaksar
<nasrinkhaksar3@... <mailto:nasrinkhaksar3@...>> wrote:

hi quentin.
i decided to stay on 2015.3 for always because in the latest
versions
nvda has problems with potplayer and when i press alt+f4 nvda when
i
press start menu says unknown and its a big issue for me.
because i only use potplayer and when i open files, most of times,
i
should use alt+control+n to revert nvda to its normal working.
15.3 until 16.2 were more stable for me.
but since 16.2 and 3, sometimes nvda says nothing or becomes
completely silent.
in this case, i afraid of maybe my system is hacked or my windows
has
problems or not working properly.

github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues.6513its
<http://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues.6513its> for potplayer and
some others
players and for the problem in espeak new version with farsi
punctuations
github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6514
<http://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6514>

but i realy love the new features of nvda including selection of
documents and impprovements in using firefox and now, i use 16.3
could you please solve the problem which i mentioned in 16.4 to
use
it
without any issues?
thanks extremely quentin.
do you have skype account for further details and contact about
different subjects?


On 12/5/16, Gene <gsasner@... <mailto:gsasner@...>>
wrote:
> I mainly use an old version because I don't use new NVDA
features, as I said
> before. But also, I prefer the old way of using what was called
Flat
> Review. I prefer always being in screen review when I activate
review mode
> in the old version and the automatic return to object navigation
when I
> switch to another window. I could get used to the new system
but since I
> don't need to, I don't bother.
>
> Also, I don't think there is any way to import the speech
dictionaries other
> then to actually copy and paste the files. I could do that
easily enough
> but I don't since I have no need. But I am reminded of
something regarding
> the dictionaries. I think there should be an export and an
import
> dictionaries item in the dictionary interface itself.
>
> Gene
> From: Quentin Christensen
> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 5:55 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable
release, and
> the next RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease
>
>
> Hi Brian,
>
>
> Essentially only the latest stable (and currently as you noted,
RC) versions
> of NVDA are supported, in that if we fix a bug, that fix will
only go into a
> new build.
>
>
> Ideally, if someone is having a problem and finds that reverting
to an
> earlier build resolves the issue, we'd very much prefer they
communicate
> that to us via a GitHub issue, or at least here on the list or
to
me
> personally so that we can endeavour to resolve it. The current
version
> should still work at least as far back as Windows XP (If anyone
is using
> Windows 98 or earlier, I'd be curious to hear your experiences
with NVDA
> just for my own interest if nothing else).
>
>
> Perhaps this thread might be a good place for anyone who is
using a version
> of NVDA prior to 2016.3, to share why that is? I can ensure that
any issues
> are recorded on GitHub, but I'd also be able to compile a list
that I can
> take back to Mick and Jamie and say "these are issues that are
currently
> keeping users on old versions of NVDA".
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
> Quentin.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Brian Vogel
<@britechguy <mailto:@britechguy>> wrote:
>
> The subject pretty much asks it all.
>
> In topic after topic I see people saying that they're using
old, often
> really old, versions of NVDA. That is entirely their choice,
and I'm not
> questioning that.
>
> What I'd like to know is how many versions, if any, other than
the latest
> stable release and the RC releases, are "officially" supported
by NVAccess.
>
> Knowing how much change occurs as releases roll out over time
I know it's
> impossible to keep supporting prior releases in perpetuity or
anything close
> to it. I also know that it generally makes no sense to try to
replicate a
> bug in a release different than the one it's been detected in
except as an
> effort to determine if it is a "carry forward" that was
previously
> undetected versus newly introduced.
>
> It's almost impossible to know "what's what" unless
individuals using NVDA
> are all using the latest stable version so far as issue
reporting goes.
> That's why, particularly for open-source software, I make it a
habit to
> religiously upgrade to the latest release whether I need the
latest "bells
> and whistles" or not. Unless there is some really buggy release
(and I'm
> talking generally, not NVDA in particular) it just makes
everyone's lives
> much easier.
> --
> Brian
>
>
> Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is
complete. If
> you’re alive, it isn’t.
>
> ~ Lauren Bacall
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Quentin Christensen
> Training Material Developer
> Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now
available:
> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>
>
> Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
> Direct: +61 413 904 383 <tel:%2B61%20413%20904%20383>
> www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org>
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
<http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>
> Twitter: @NVAccess
>
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org <http://al-islam.org>






--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now
available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess



--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

Re: Is any release prior to the latest stable release, and the next RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease

Jacob Kruger
 

I had previously tried out 64 bit version, but, now went and downloaded the version you posted the link to, and, it seems pretty much the same to me, whether I use the current release candidate for NVDA 2016.4, or if I roll back to a portable copy of NVDA 2016.2?


What mean is interface seems pretty much the same to me, and, when now invoked context menu, brought up preferences dialogue, and under accessibility, among scanning through settings, turned on UIA (user interface automation), it did seem to work fine with both versions of NVDA, but, this was my first time ever really using it, so not sure what part of interface is an issue on your side, while working with latest versions of NVDA?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-12-05 13:37, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi.
potplayer is a very long time thats completely accessible!
whats the different between my link and yours?
i did not test the second link but the first link which i always use,
is the website of the programmers and owners of the softwares.
potplayer preference was not accessible in its old versions via keyboard.
but now, its accessibility is realy great and even now, they put one
option for accessibility!

On 12/5/16, Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:
Quentin, HYG:

https://potplayer.daum.net/


But, gave it a quick test run, and, my guess is that it doesn't offer
much in t4erms of accessibility, etc. - no menu suystems that could
activate using alt + key combo's, etc., so not sure it would be
something I would want to work with as such.


stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-12-05 10:20, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Nasrin,

Is Potplayer freely available? If so, do you have a URL please and I
will download and test it myself as well.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 5:48 PM, nasrin khaksar
<nasrinkhaksar3@... <mailto:nasrinkhaksar3@...>> wrote:

hi quentin.
i decided to stay on 2015.3 for always because in the latest versions
nvda has problems with potplayer and when i press alt+f4 nvda when i
press start menu says unknown and its a big issue for me.
because i only use potplayer and when i open files, most of times, i
should use alt+control+n to revert nvda to its normal working.
15.3 until 16.2 were more stable for me.
but since 16.2 and 3, sometimes nvda says nothing or becomes
completely silent.
in this case, i afraid of maybe my system is hacked or my windows has
problems or not working properly.

github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues.6513its
<http://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues.6513its> for potplayer and
some others
players and for the problem in espeak new version with farsi
punctuations
github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6514
<http://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6514>

but i realy love the new features of nvda including selection of
documents and impprovements in using firefox and now, i use 16.3
could you please solve the problem which i mentioned in 16.4 to use
it
without any issues?
thanks extremely quentin.
do you have skype account for further details and contact about
different subjects?


On 12/5/16, Gene <gsasner@... <mailto:gsasner@...>>
wrote:
> I mainly use an old version because I don't use new NVDA
features, as I said
> before. But also, I prefer the old way of using what was called
Flat
> Review. I prefer always being in screen review when I activate
review mode
> in the old version and the automatic return to object navigation
when I
> switch to another window. I could get used to the new system
but since I
> don't need to, I don't bother.
>
> Also, I don't think there is any way to import the speech
dictionaries other
> then to actually copy and paste the files. I could do that
easily enough
> but I don't since I have no need. But I am reminded of
something regarding
> the dictionaries. I think there should be an export and an import
> dictionaries item in the dictionary interface itself.
>
> Gene
> From: Quentin Christensen
> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 5:55 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable
release, and
> the next RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease
>
>
> Hi Brian,
>
>
> Essentially only the latest stable (and currently as you noted,
RC) versions
> of NVDA are supported, in that if we fix a bug, that fix will
only go into a
> new build.
>
>
> Ideally, if someone is having a problem and finds that reverting
to an
> earlier build resolves the issue, we'd very much prefer they
communicate
> that to us via a GitHub issue, or at least here on the list or to
me
> personally so that we can endeavour to resolve it. The current
version
> should still work at least as far back as Windows XP (If anyone
is using
> Windows 98 or earlier, I'd be curious to hear your experiences
with NVDA
> just for my own interest if nothing else).
>
>
> Perhaps this thread might be a good place for anyone who is
using a version
> of NVDA prior to 2016.3, to share why that is? I can ensure that
any issues
> are recorded on GitHub, but I'd also be able to compile a list
that I can
> take back to Mick and Jamie and say "these are issues that are
currently
> keeping users on old versions of NVDA".
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
> Quentin.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Brian Vogel
<@britechguy <mailto:@britechguy>> wrote:
>
> The subject pretty much asks it all.
>
> In topic after topic I see people saying that they're using
old, often
> really old, versions of NVDA. That is entirely their choice,
and I'm not
> questioning that.
>
> What I'd like to know is how many versions, if any, other than
the latest
> stable release and the RC releases, are "officially" supported
by NVAccess.
>
> Knowing how much change occurs as releases roll out over time
I know it's
> impossible to keep supporting prior releases in perpetuity or
anything close
> to it. I also know that it generally makes no sense to try to
replicate a
> bug in a release different than the one it's been detected in
except as an
> effort to determine if it is a "carry forward" that was previously
> undetected versus newly introduced.
>
> It's almost impossible to know "what's what" unless
individuals using NVDA
> are all using the latest stable version so far as issue
reporting goes.
> That's why, particularly for open-source software, I make it a
habit to
> religiously upgrade to the latest release whether I need the
latest "bells
> and whistles" or not. Unless there is some really buggy release
(and I'm
> talking generally, not NVDA in particular) it just makes
everyone's lives
> much easier.
> --
> Brian
>
>
> Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is
complete. If
> you’re alive, it isn’t.
>
> ~ Lauren Bacall
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Quentin Christensen
> Training Material Developer
> Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now
available:
> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>
>
> Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
> Direct: +61 413 904 383 <tel:%2B61%20413%20904%20383>
> www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org>
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
<http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>
> Twitter: @NVAccess
>
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org <http://al-islam.org>






--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now
available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess

Re: NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net

Mallard
 

thanks Gene,

This is a great site indeed!

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 05/12/2016 11:26, Gene New Zealand ha scritto:
Hi guys

It is Gene NZ (who is putting together the AccessibilityCentral.net
website).
Some people are aware of it and there are a few that are not. It is a
blindness related website where I also post both written and audio
tutorials for the NVDA screen reader, along with other blindness related
material.

These are fairly easy to follow, (that is they are step by step
instructions) and for a desktop computer.
They are basically, to get a new user of NVDA up and running.

At present, any that are written are identified under a heading on the
main AccessibilityCentral.net homepage of the website. The heading is
called pages recently updated, and they are listed below this heading or
put onto my AccessibilityCentral.net facebook page.

I have had a few people also suggest that when these tutorials go up (or
are passed on) to do with the NVDA screen reader, that I should let the
list know each time that they go up. These tutorials will only be the
ones that end up on the website. The notification will state on which
page they are on, or have come off. I will be doing this from now on.

One of the tutorials that has extra information put into it is called
Accessible email client Mozilla Thunderbird.
There are 10 sections added in, starting from the following heading
called How to navigate Mozilla Thunderbird with NVDA.

The page can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

There is also another tutorial by David Moore, that covers the Windows
10 Mail app (which can be found off the NVDA tutorials for other
programs page). The direct link to this tutorial can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/How%20to%20use%20the%20Mail%20app%20in%20Windows%2010%20with%20NVDA.html

I will add more tutorials to this thread as they are written up.

Gene NZ

Re: wanted free synth for my nvda

 

did you try iven3 with rate 30, rate boost uncheck, infliction between
70 and 80 with pitch 50?
its extremely great!

On 12/5/16, sazid <skstraders.nlr@...> wrote:
dear list as my e speak is working well but as it is robotic sense
hence i want any free/open voice for english on my nvda.

thanks and regards,
sazdid

On 12/1/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hi.
i know only espeak and speech player in espeak.
i use iven3 and it works very great and i extremely love it!

On 12/1/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
Can you give us a clue, what language and why is Espeak not working for
you.

If its a minority language you may need to buy one that suits your ears.

Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "sazid" <skstraders.nlr@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 3:14 AM
Subject: [nvda] wanted free synth for my nvda


dear list,
I am need of free/open synthasiser for nvda on my official computer.
hence I request to share this for english language.

thanks and regards,
sazid






--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org





--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

Re: NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net

Brennen Kinch
 

I really like the websight but i have a sugjestions i noticed that there several nvda links that are all on the main page so for me it seems a little cluttered but i wounder if a way to solve this would be to make sublinks such as nvda tutorials and put all of the tutorial links under that sub link
Just an idea

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 5, 2016, at 5:26 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi guys

It is Gene NZ (who is putting together the AccessibilityCentral.net
website).
Some people are aware of it and there are a few that are not. It is a
blindness related website where I also post both written and audio
tutorials for the NVDA screen reader, along with other blindness related
material.

These are fairly easy to follow, (that is they are step by step
instructions) and for a desktop computer.
They are basically, to get a new user of NVDA up and running.

At present, any that are written are identified under a heading on the
main AccessibilityCentral.net homepage of the website. The heading is
called pages recently updated, and they are listed below this heading or
put onto my AccessibilityCentral.net facebook page.

I have had a few people also suggest that when these tutorials go up (or
are passed on) to do with the NVDA screen reader, that I should let the
list know each time that they go up. These tutorials will only be the
ones that end up on the website. The notification will state on which
page they are on, or have come off. I will be doing this from now on.

One of the tutorials that has extra information put into it is called
Accessible email client Mozilla Thunderbird.
There are 10 sections added in, starting from the following heading
called How to navigate Mozilla Thunderbird with NVDA.

The page can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

There is also another tutorial by David Moore, that covers the Windows
10 Mail app (which can be found off the NVDA tutorials for other
programs page). The direct link to this tutorial can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/How%20to%20use%20the%20Mail%20app%20in%20Windows%2010%20with%20NVDA.html

I will add more tutorials to this thread as they are written up.

Gene NZ


--

<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
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Re: My NVDA Not Working Properly

 

hi.
which version of eloquence is free here?
i went to the different links and found different versions of eloquence.

On 12/5/16, Bobby <bvinton@...> wrote:
Well you can get the sapi voices at www.grossgang.com. a guy named Jake
gross has many voices including mike and Mary voices it under the tts
link on the page.


On 12/5/2016 4:19 AM, David wrote:
Am I mistaken here, or does NVDA support SAPI voices? Smiles.

Microsoft used to have a SAPI package which came in both SAPI4 and SAPI5
versions. It contained MS Mike, and MS Mary. Personally, I prefered the
quality of the speech, produced by the Sapi4 version. They were free, and
installed under at least XP, I do hold they should work under newer
flavors of Windows as well, though I cannot tell for sure.

I could dig out the installer from my archives, but you might also want to
do a net search for something like:
Mircrosoft voice Mike installer
or,
Microsoft voice Mike download
and see if you can find the package somewhere.

What I do recall, is that you downloaded an installer file, ran it,
restarted your system, and the voices would be ready for use, under the
SAPI tab of your screen reader voice selection. I seem to remember using
Mary, with an early version of NVDA. Unless something deep inside the NVDA
core has changed, I would say it should still work.

Though being SAPI, the voices were OK responsive, and the quality was a
good deal more natural sounding, than many of the ESpeak voices. I even
used the Mike and Mary, to read several EBooks.

Just thought it might be one alternative to try out. At least it is free,
so if you don't find it useful, you could always uninstall the package,
and you would have lost nothing.
David



On 12/5/2016 8:25 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi Ibrahim


There 2 parts to the speech platform synth and voices.

One is the speech synth engine and the other is the voices.


This is from off the website of mine of what to do to get them.


How to install Microsoft Speech Platform and voices (free) for NVDA
There are Microsoft voices that you can use with NVDA. These are called
Microsoft Speech Platform Runtime Languages. Firstly, you will need the
Microsoft Speech Platform to be able to run them.

If you have not downloaded the Microsoft Speech Platform, it is
available from the following link
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=27225
You will need the x86 version of the file.

If you have downloaded the Microsoft Speech Platform, you can get
version 11 voices for it (called Runtime Languages) from the following
link
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=27224

The heading on the page should be: Microsoft Speech Platform - Runtime
Languages (Version 11). If for example I wanted an English voice called
Helen, I would click on one called MSSpeech_TTS_en-US_Helen.msi Please
be aware that TTS stands for text to speech, and SR stands for speech
recognition. You are looking for the TTS ones. Once downloaded, double
click on the file and it will automatically set up to the correct
location. Go back into NVDA settings Insert + N... Preferences...
Synthesizer... (In the dropdown list of synthesizers select) Microsoft
Speech Platform... Tab to OK and press Enter. Go back into your settings
Insert + N... Preferences... Voice settings... (under the Voice combo
box) arrow down to select the voice you wish to use. Tab to OK and press
Enter. You can of course alter the rate, pitch and volume to suit your
own needs. You will need to make sure that if you have version 10.2
that you use 10.2 voices, and if you get version 11 then you will need
to get the version 11 voices. For version 10.2 please refer to the NVDA
user manual for more information under supported synthesizers.


I am just looking at the page or pages now to get the synth engine and
voices.


if you are unsure which ones to get i will download the engine and all
the voices to my pc then zip them up and drop box them for you. or
others who might be interested in installing them.


I will do this shortly.


by the way there is another free synth package called speechhub that you
might want to use. the voices are only in english.

You can get the speech hub package from the following link at
http://www.speakon.org.uk/

Gene nz




On 5/12/2016 5:28 PM, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:
Hi good people:
If you can recollect, I did send a message to this group about my NVDA
not working properly. I did get many responses, and I thank all of
you who found time to respond. I am sorry I mistakenly deleted the
digest mail sent to me, and I can not reply to the mail. But I
believe some of you might remember the mail.
Actually, I got a very good response from David. He made some
suggestions which I've tried. I discovered when I switched off NVDa
as he suggested, and I used the demo version of JAWS for Windows, that
the system worked very nicely, and fast.
I strongly believe that the problem must be from the synthesiser I am
using. Actually, I use Micro sofft speech AI4 which I use through
viavoice outloud. I appear to like the synthesiser, because it is
very clear and it sounds like eloquence. But it appears obsolete and
not very helpful.
I can't use the JAWS demo version, because it works in 40 minute mode,
and one cannot usee that when doing serious work on the computer.
I downloaded Microsoft speech version 11 but it couldn't be installed
on my system. I did it several times but it didn't work. i cannot
use ESpeak, because I don't understand the speech. I tried koba
speech as well, but the speech for that is also not very easy to
comprehend.
So, can anyone suggest another synthesiser. I use windows 7 32bit.
I am Ibrahim from Nigeria.






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Re: wanted free synth for my nvda

sazid
 

dear list as my e speak is working well but as it is robotic sense
hence i want any free/open voice for english on my nvda.

thanks and regards,
sazdid

On 12/1/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hi.
i know only espeak and speech player in espeak.
i use iven3 and it works very great and i extremely love it!

On 12/1/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
Can you give us a clue, what language and why is Espeak not working for
you.

If its a minority language you may need to buy one that suits your ears.

Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "sazid" <skstraders.nlr@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 3:14 AM
Subject: [nvda] wanted free synth for my nvda


dear list,
I am need of free/open synthasiser for nvda on my official computer.
hence I request to share this for english language.

thanks and regards,
sazid






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holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org



Re: Is any release prior to the latest stable release, and the next RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease

 

hi.
potplayer is a very long time thats completely accessible!
whats the different between my link and yours?
i did not test the second link but the first link which i always use,
is the website of the programmers and owners of the softwares.
potplayer preference was not accessible in its old versions via keyboard.
but now, its accessibility is realy great and even now, they put one
option for accessibility!

On 12/5/16, Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:
Quentin, HYG:

https://potplayer.daum.net/


But, gave it a quick test run, and, my guess is that it doesn't offer
much in t4erms of accessibility, etc. - no menu suystems that could
activate using alt + key combo's, etc., so not sure it would be
something I would want to work with as such.


stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-12-05 10:20, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Nasrin,

Is Potplayer freely available? If so, do you have a URL please and I
will download and test it myself as well.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 5:48 PM, nasrin khaksar
<nasrinkhaksar3@... <mailto:nasrinkhaksar3@...>> wrote:

hi quentin.
i decided to stay on 2015.3 for always because in the latest versions
nvda has problems with potplayer and when i press alt+f4 nvda when i
press start menu says unknown and its a big issue for me.
because i only use potplayer and when i open files, most of times, i
should use alt+control+n to revert nvda to its normal working.
15.3 until 16.2 were more stable for me.
but since 16.2 and 3, sometimes nvda says nothing or becomes
completely silent.
in this case, i afraid of maybe my system is hacked or my windows has
problems or not working properly.

github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues.6513its
<http://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues.6513its> for potplayer and
some others
players and for the problem in espeak new version with farsi
punctuations
github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6514
<http://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6514>

but i realy love the new features of nvda including selection of
documents and impprovements in using firefox and now, i use 16.3
could you please solve the problem which i mentioned in 16.4 to use
it
without any issues?
thanks extremely quentin.
do you have skype account for further details and contact about
different subjects?


On 12/5/16, Gene <gsasner@... <mailto:gsasner@...>>
wrote:
> I mainly use an old version because I don't use new NVDA
features, as I said
> before. But also, I prefer the old way of using what was called
Flat
> Review. I prefer always being in screen review when I activate
review mode
> in the old version and the automatic return to object navigation
when I
> switch to another window. I could get used to the new system
but since I
> don't need to, I don't bother.
>
> Also, I don't think there is any way to import the speech
dictionaries other
> then to actually copy and paste the files. I could do that
easily enough
> but I don't since I have no need. But I am reminded of
something regarding
> the dictionaries. I think there should be an export and an import
> dictionaries item in the dictionary interface itself.
>
> Gene
> From: Quentin Christensen
> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 5:55 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable
release, and
> the next RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease
>
>
> Hi Brian,
>
>
> Essentially only the latest stable (and currently as you noted,
RC) versions
> of NVDA are supported, in that if we fix a bug, that fix will
only go into a
> new build.
>
>
> Ideally, if someone is having a problem and finds that reverting
to an
> earlier build resolves the issue, we'd very much prefer they
communicate
> that to us via a GitHub issue, or at least here on the list or to
me
> personally so that we can endeavour to resolve it. The current
version
> should still work at least as far back as Windows XP (If anyone
is using
> Windows 98 or earlier, I'd be curious to hear your experiences
with NVDA
> just for my own interest if nothing else).
>
>
> Perhaps this thread might be a good place for anyone who is
using a version
> of NVDA prior to 2016.3, to share why that is? I can ensure that
any issues
> are recorded on GitHub, but I'd also be able to compile a list
that I can
> take back to Mick and Jamie and say "these are issues that are
currently
> keeping users on old versions of NVDA".
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
> Quentin.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Brian Vogel
<@britechguy <mailto:@britechguy>> wrote:
>
> The subject pretty much asks it all.
>
> In topic after topic I see people saying that they're using
old, often
> really old, versions of NVDA. That is entirely their choice,
and I'm not
> questioning that.
>
> What I'd like to know is how many versions, if any, other than
the latest
> stable release and the RC releases, are "officially" supported
by NVAccess.
>
> Knowing how much change occurs as releases roll out over time
I know it's
> impossible to keep supporting prior releases in perpetuity or
anything close
> to it. I also know that it generally makes no sense to try to
replicate a
> bug in a release different than the one it's been detected in
except as an
> effort to determine if it is a "carry forward" that was previously
> undetected versus newly introduced.
>
> It's almost impossible to know "what's what" unless
individuals using NVDA
> are all using the latest stable version so far as issue
reporting goes.
> That's why, particularly for open-source software, I make it a
habit to
> religiously upgrade to the latest release whether I need the
latest "bells
> and whistles" or not. Unless there is some really buggy release
(and I'm
> talking generally, not NVDA in particular) it just makes
everyone's lives
> much easier.
> --
> Brian
>
>
> Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is
complete. If
> you’re alive, it isn’t.
>
> ~ Lauren Bacall
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Quentin Christensen
> Training Material Developer
> Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now
available:
> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>
>
> Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
> Direct: +61 413 904 383 <tel:%2B61%20413%20904%20383>
> www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org>
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
<http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>
> Twitter: @NVAccess
>
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org <http://al-islam.org>






--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now
available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

Re: Is any release prior to the latest stable release, and the next RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease

Jacob Kruger
 

Quentin, HYG:

https://potplayer.daum.net/


But, gave it a quick test run, and, my guess is that it doesn't offer much in t4erms of accessibility, etc. - no menu suystems that could activate using alt + key combo's, etc., so not sure it would be something I would want to work with as such.


stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2016-12-05 10:20, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Nasrin,

Is Potplayer freely available?  If so, do you have a URL please and I will download and test it myself as well.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 5:48 PM, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hi quentin.
i decided to stay on 2015.3 for always because in the latest versions
nvda has problems with potplayer and when i press alt+f4 nvda when i
press start menu says unknown and its a big issue for me.
because i only use potplayer and when i open files, most of times, i
should use alt+control+n to revert nvda to its normal working.
15.3 until 16.2 were more stable for me.
but since 16.2 and 3, sometimes nvda says nothing or becomes completely silent.
in this case, i afraid of maybe my system is hacked or my windows has
problems or not working properly.

github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues.6513its for potplayer and some others
players and for the problem in espeak new version with farsi
punctuations
github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6514

but i realy love the new features of nvda including selection of
documents and impprovements in using firefox and now, i use 16.3
could you please solve the problem which i mentioned in 16.4 to use it
without any issues?
thanks extremely quentin.
do you have skype account for further details and contact about
different subjects?


On 12/5/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> I mainly use an old version because I don't use new NVDA features, as I said
> before.  But also, I prefer the old way of using what was called Flat
> Review.  I prefer always being in screen review when I activate review mode
> in the old version and the automatic return to object navigation when I
> switch to another window.  I could get used to the new system but since I
> don't need to, I don't bother.
>
> Also, I don't think there is any way to import the speech dictionaries other
> then to actually copy and paste the files.  I could do that easily enough
> but I don't since I have no need.  But I am reminded of something regarding
> the dictionaries.  I think there should be an export and an import
> dictionaries item in the dictionary interface itself.
>
> Gene
> From: Quentin Christensen
> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 5:55 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable release, and
> the next RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease
>
>
> Hi Brian,
>
>
> Essentially only the latest stable (and currently as you noted, RC) versions
> of NVDA are supported, in that if we fix a bug, that fix will only go into a
> new build.
>
>
> Ideally, if someone is having a problem and finds that reverting to an
> earlier build resolves the issue, we'd very much prefer they communicate
> that to us via a GitHub issue, or at least here on the list or to me
> personally so that we can endeavour to resolve it.  The current version
> should still work at least as far back as Windows XP (If anyone is using
> Windows 98 or earlier, I'd be curious to hear your experiences with NVDA
> just for my own interest if nothing else).
>
>
> Perhaps this thread might be a good place for anyone who is using a version
> of NVDA prior to 2016.3, to share why that is? I can ensure that any issues
> are recorded on GitHub, but I'd also be able to compile a list that I can
> take back to Mick and Jamie and say "these are issues that are currently
> keeping users on old versions of NVDA".
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
> Quentin.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
>
>   The subject pretty much asks it all.
>
>   In topic after topic I see people saying that they're using old, often
> really old, versions of NVDA.  That is entirely their choice, and I'm not
> questioning that.
>
>   What I'd like to know is how many versions, if any, other than the latest
> stable release and the RC releases, are "officially" supported by NVAccess.
>
>   Knowing how much change occurs as releases roll out over time I know it's
> impossible to keep supporting prior releases in perpetuity or anything close
> to it.  I also know that it generally makes no sense to try to replicate a
> bug in a release different than the one it's been detected in except as an
> effort to determine if it is a "carry forward" that was previously
> undetected versus newly introduced.
>
>   It's almost impossible to know "what's what" unless individuals using NVDA
> are all using the latest stable version so far as issue reporting goes.
> That's why, particularly for open-source software, I make it a habit to
> religiously upgrade to the latest release whether I need the latest "bells
> and whistles" or not.  Unless there is some really buggy release (and I'm
> talking generally, not NVDA in particular) it just makes everyone's lives
> much easier.
>   --
>   Brian
>
>
>   Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If
> you’re alive, it isn’t.
>
>       ~ Lauren Bacall
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Quentin Christensen
> Training Material Developer
> Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>
>
> Ph +61 7 3149 3306
> Direct: +61 413 904 383
> www.nvaccess.org
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess
>
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org






--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi guys

It is Gene NZ (who is putting together the AccessibilityCentral.net
website).
Some people are aware of it and there are a few that are not. It is a
blindness related website where I also post both written and audio
tutorials for the NVDA screen reader, along with other blindness related
material.

These are fairly easy to follow, (that is they are step by step
instructions) and for a desktop computer.
They are basically, to get a new user of NVDA up and running.

At present, any that are written are identified under a heading on the
main AccessibilityCentral.net homepage of the website. The heading is
called pages recently updated, and they are listed below this heading or
put onto my AccessibilityCentral.net facebook page.

I have had a few people also suggest that when these tutorials go up (or
are passed on) to do with the NVDA screen reader, that I should let the
list know each time that they go up. These tutorials will only be the
ones that end up on the website. The notification will state on which
page they are on, or have come off. I will be doing this from now on.

One of the tutorials that has extra information put into it is called
Accessible email client Mozilla Thunderbird.
There are 10 sections added in, starting from the following heading
called How to navigate Mozilla Thunderbird with NVDA.

The page can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

There is also another tutorial by David Moore, that covers the Windows
10 Mail app (which can be found off the NVDA tutorials for other
programs page). The direct link to this tutorial can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/How%20to%20use%20the%20Mail%20app%20in%20Windows%2010%20with%20NVDA.html

I will add more tutorials to this thread as they are written up.

Gene NZ


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Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries

Re: My NVDA Not Working Properly

Bobby <bvinton@...>
 

Well you can get the sapi voices at www.grossgang.com. a guy named Jake gross has many voices including mike and Mary voices it under the tts link on the page.

On 12/5/2016 4:19 AM, David wrote:
Am I mistaken here, or does NVDA support SAPI voices? Smiles.

Microsoft used to have a SAPI package which came in both SAPI4 and SAPI5 versions. It contained MS Mike, and MS Mary. Personally, I prefered the quality of the speech, produced by the Sapi4 version. They were free, and installed under at least XP, I do hold they should work under newer flavors of Windows as well, though I cannot tell for sure.

I could dig out the installer from my archives, but you might also want to do a net search for something like:
Mircrosoft voice Mike installer
or,
Microsoft voice Mike download
and see if you can find the package somewhere.

What I do recall, is that you downloaded an installer file, ran it, restarted your system, and the voices would be ready for use, under the SAPI tab of your screen reader voice selection. I seem to remember using Mary, with an early version of NVDA. Unless something deep inside the NVDA core has changed, I would say it should still work.

Though being SAPI, the voices were OK responsive, and the quality was a good deal more natural sounding, than many of the ESpeak voices. I even used the Mike and Mary, to read several EBooks.

Just thought it might be one alternative to try out. At least it is free, so if you don't find it useful, you could always uninstall the package, and you would have lost nothing.
David



On 12/5/2016 8:25 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi Ibrahim


There 2 parts to the speech platform synth and voices.

One is the speech synth engine and the other is the voices.


This is from off the website of mine of what to do to get them.


How to install Microsoft Speech Platform and voices (free) for NVDA
There are Microsoft voices that you can use with NVDA. These are called
Microsoft Speech Platform Runtime Languages. Firstly, you will need the
Microsoft Speech Platform to be able to run them.

If you have not downloaded the Microsoft Speech Platform, it is
available from the following link
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=27225
You will need the x86 version of the file.

If you have downloaded the Microsoft Speech Platform, you can get
version 11 voices for it (called Runtime Languages) from the following link
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=27224

The heading on the page should be: Microsoft Speech Platform - Runtime
Languages (Version 11). If for example I wanted an English voice called
Helen, I would click on one called MSSpeech_TTS_en-US_Helen.msi Please
be aware that TTS stands for text to speech, and SR stands for speech
recognition. You are looking for the TTS ones. Once downloaded, double
click on the file and it will automatically set up to the correct
location. Go back into NVDA settings Insert + N... Preferences...
Synthesizer... (In the dropdown list of synthesizers select) Microsoft
Speech Platform... Tab to OK and press Enter. Go back into your settings
Insert + N... Preferences... Voice settings... (under the Voice combo
box) arrow down to select the voice you wish to use. Tab to OK and press
Enter. You can of course alter the rate, pitch and volume to suit your
own needs. You will need to make sure that if you have version 10.2
that you use 10.2 voices, and if you get version 11 then you will need
to get the version 11 voices. For version 10.2 please refer to the NVDA
user manual for more information under supported synthesizers.


I am just looking at the page or pages now to get the synth engine and
voices.


if you are unsure which ones to get i will download the engine and all
the voices to my pc then zip them up and drop box them for you. or
others who might be interested in installing them.


I will do this shortly.


by the way there is another free synth package called speechhub that you
might want to use. the voices are only in english.

You can get the speech hub package from the following link at
http://www.speakon.org.uk/

Gene nz




On 5/12/2016 5:28 PM, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:
Hi good people:
If you can recollect, I did send a message to this group about my NVDA
not working properly. I did get many responses, and I thank all of
you who found time to respond. I am sorry I mistakenly deleted the
digest mail sent to me, and I can not reply to the mail. But I
believe some of you might remember the mail.
Actually, I got a very good response from David. He made some
suggestions which I've tried. I discovered when I switched off NVDa
as he suggested, and I used the demo version of JAWS for Windows, that
the system worked very nicely, and fast.
I strongly believe that the problem must be from the synthesiser I am
using. Actually, I use Micro sofft speech AI4 which I use through
viavoice outloud. I appear to like the synthesiser, because it is
very clear and it sounds like eloquence. But it appears obsolete and
not very helpful.
I can't use the JAWS demo version, because it works in 40 minute mode,
and one cannot usee that when doing serious work on the computer.
I downloaded Microsoft speech version 11 but it couldn't be installed
on my system. I did it several times but it didn't work. i cannot
use ESpeak, because I don't understand the speech. I tried koba
speech as well, but the speech for that is also not very easy to
comprehend.
So, can anyone suggest another synthesiser. I use windows 7 32bit.
I am Ibrahim from Nigeria.