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Re: My NVDA Not Working Properly

Dejan Ristic
 

Friend,


Your question is answered. Iven 3 is in the list where you find the Iven you have talked about. Hit I to switch between the Ivens. Try it as patiently as you can, but, if you cannot find it, then, report them as missing in your list, so that you may be given further help.

On 12/5/2016 9:05 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
Yeah, I know that. I was specifically asking where the ivan3 voice was, because I only see 1 ivan voice, uneer the espeak ng synthesizer. You didn't answer my question.



On 12/5/2016 2:40 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
hi


Under the voice settings section when you go into it under the barient
section it is a combo box open it up then arrow down the list to hear
the different varients there. the voices will change depending on the
synth package used.


I find my own voice Gene easy to listen 2.


Gene nz



On 6/12/2016 8:05 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:
I didn't know there was more than one ivan. I use ivan as well, but I
only saw one of them in the list of voices. This is using the espeak
ng. I like the ivan voice, where are the others so I may take a look
at them as well?



On 12/5/2016 2:29 AM, Dejan Ristic wrote:
Although you said that you did not understand ESpeak, what do you
think about using some of the variants it offers us? For instance, I
use Iven 3, which I find very clear. I have set the rate at 24. I do
not encounter any problems, probably because I use ESpeak, which I
find very quick and responsive. Try to get used to it. Your messages
say that your English is very good, so I think that you may get used
to it before long. Choose between the variants, and try different
rates to make it suitable for yourself. Let me also say that I used
ESpeak while doing some freelace translations from English to
Serbian, and vice versa. I was successful.


On 12/5/2016 5:28 AM, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:
Hi good people:
If you can recollect, I did send a message to this group about my NVDA
not working properly. I did get many responses, and I thank all of
you who found time to respond. I am sorry I mistakenly deleted the
digest mail sent to me, and I can not reply to the mail. But I
believe some of you might remember the mail.
Actually, I got a very good response from David. He made some
suggestions which I've tried. I discovered when I switched off NVDa
as he suggested, and I used the demo version of JAWS for Windows, that
the system worked very nicely, and fast.
I strongly believe that the problem must be from the synthesiser I am
using. Actually, I use Micro sofft speech AI4 which I use through
viavoice outloud. I appear to like the synthesiser, because it is
very clear and it sounds like eloquence. But it appears obsolete and
not very helpful.
I can't use the JAWS demo version, because it works in 40 minute mode,
and one cannot usee that when doing serious work on the computer.
I downloaded Microsoft speech version 11 but it couldn't be installed
on my system. I did it several times but it didn't work. i cannot
use ESpeak, because I don't understand the speech. I tried koba
speech as well, but the speech for that is also not very easy to
comprehend.
So, can anyone suggest another synthesiser. I use windows 7 32bit.
I am Ibrahim from Nigeria.



.







.


Re: My NVDA Not Working Properly

Dejan Ristic
 

Open the voice settings menu. Tab once to the list of the voice variants. Press the letter I to find the three Ivens in the list. There are: Iven, Iven 2, and Iven 3, the last of which I use.


Note:


You will need to use ESpeak NG so that this help may take effect.

On 12/5/2016 8:05 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
I didn't know there was more than one ivan. I use ivan as well, but I only saw one of them in the list of voices. This is using the espeak ng. I like the ivan voice, where are the others so I may take a look at them as well?



On 12/5/2016 2:29 AM, Dejan Ristic wrote:
Although you said that you did not understand ESpeak, what do you think about using some of the variants it offers us? For instance, I use Iven 3, which I find very clear. I have set the rate at 24. I do not encounter any problems, probably because I use ESpeak, which I find very quick and responsive. Try to get used to it. Your messages say that your English is very good, so I think that you may get used to it before long. Choose between the variants, and try different rates to make it suitable for yourself. Let me also say that I used ESpeak while doing some freelace translations from English to Serbian, and vice versa. I was successful.


On 12/5/2016 5:28 AM, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:
Hi good people:
If you can recollect, I did send a message to this group about my NVDA
not working properly. I did get many responses, and I thank all of
you who found time to respond. I am sorry I mistakenly deleted the
digest mail sent to me, and I can not reply to the mail. But I
believe some of you might remember the mail.
Actually, I got a very good response from David. He made some
suggestions which I've tried. I discovered when I switched off NVDa
as he suggested, and I used the demo version of JAWS for Windows, that
the system worked very nicely, and fast.
I strongly believe that the problem must be from the synthesiser I am
using. Actually, I use Micro sofft speech AI4 which I use through
viavoice outloud. I appear to like the synthesiser, because it is
very clear and it sounds like eloquence. But it appears obsolete and
not very helpful.
I can't use the JAWS demo version, because it works in 40 minute mode,
and one cannot usee that when doing serious work on the computer.
I downloaded Microsoft speech version 11 but it couldn't be installed
on my system. I did it several times but it didn't work. i cannot
use ESpeak, because I don't understand the speech. I tried koba
speech as well, but the speech for that is also not very easy to
comprehend.
So, can anyone suggest another synthesiser. I use windows 7 32bit.
I am Ibrahim from Nigeria.



.






.


Re: My NVDA Not Working Properly

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Ahh, I see. I only had a single ivan, because I was looking under the english us. The 3 ivan voices are under the entry that just says english. Now it makes sense. That was I was wondering where the other ivan voices were, they don't show up under the english us setting, only under the english by itself. Got it now. Think I'll stick with the ivan I have, it's slightly louder than the other 2, and slightly deeper, which I like very much.

On 12/5/2016 3:56 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi

If the E speak nz is the preferred synth package under the synth
settings, I only notice the varients come up under the voice settings
section. I just looked and saw all 3 ivon voices there. Even though i am
using a windows 10 pc it should not matter.

There is about 40 or 50 voices or varients under that section.

If it is the sapi 5 version they might have to be installed if they are
there.

if not what is mentioned above i have no idea.

I can tell you if you made extra varients where to put them, but that is
not maybe you are asking about.

Gene nz

On 6/12/2016 9:05 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:
Yeah, I know that. I was specifically asking where the ivan3 voice
was, because I only see 1 ivan voice, uneer the espeak ng synthesizer.
You didn't answer my question.



On 12/5/2016 2:40 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
hi


Under the voice settings section when you go into it under the barient
section it is a combo box open it up then arrow down the list to hear
the different varients there. the voices will change depending on the
synth package used.


I find my own voice Gene easy to listen 2.


Gene nz



On 6/12/2016 8:05 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:
I didn't know there was more than one ivan. I use ivan as well, but I
only saw one of them in the list of voices. This is using the espeak
ng. I like the ivan voice, where are the others so I may take a look
at them as well?



On 12/5/2016 2:29 AM, Dejan Ristic wrote:
Although you said that you did not understand ESpeak, what do you
think about using some of the variants it offers us? For instance, I
use Iven 3, which I find very clear. I have set the rate at 24. I do
not encounter any problems, probably because I use ESpeak, which I
find very quick and responsive. Try to get used to it. Your messages
say that your English is very good, so I think that you may get used
to it before long. Choose between the variants, and try different
rates to make it suitable for yourself. Let me also say that I used
ESpeak while doing some freelace translations from English to
Serbian, and vice versa. I was successful.


On 12/5/2016 5:28 AM, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:
Hi good people:
If you can recollect, I did send a message to this group about my
NVDA
not working properly. I did get many responses, and I thank all of
you who found time to respond. I am sorry I mistakenly deleted the
digest mail sent to me, and I can not reply to the mail. But I
believe some of you might remember the mail.
Actually, I got a very good response from David. He made some
suggestions which I've tried. I discovered when I switched off NVDa
as he suggested, and I used the demo version of JAWS for Windows,
that
the system worked very nicely, and fast.
I strongly believe that the problem must be from the synthesiser I am
using. Actually, I use Micro sofft speech AI4 which I use through
viavoice outloud. I appear to like the synthesiser, because it is
very clear and it sounds like eloquence. But it appears obsolete and
not very helpful.
I can't use the JAWS demo version, because it works in 40 minute
mode,
and one cannot usee that when doing serious work on the computer.
I downloaded Microsoft speech version 11 but it couldn't be installed
on my system. I did it several times but it didn't work. i cannot
use ESpeak, because I don't understand the speech. I tried koba
speech as well, but the speech for that is also not very easy to
comprehend.
So, can anyone suggest another synthesiser. I use windows 7 32bit.
I am Ibrahim from Nigeria.



.





Re: wanted free synth for my nvda

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

Hi the vine3 voice that was talked about hear in this message.


--
Casey


Re: Is any release prior to the latest stable release, and the next RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease

Gene
 

There is an interesting discussion about an earlier version of the player and NVDA as well as without NVDA here.
 
The player may have had and may still have one or more issues that should be addressed by the developers. 
 
Whetehr one or more issues you discuss is an NVDA issue or whether the issues are entirely issues with the player, I don't know.  but the player had at least one serious issue in the past and we don't know if it has been addressed.
 
I would suggest that you tell the list what you are looking for in terms of abilities and functionality in a player and see what responses you get. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable release, and the next RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease

Also, what version of the player are you using?  My version had no menus and the screen was not readable.  If you are using an older version, accessibility may have changed.  If you are using a newer version, accessibility may have changed as well. I assumed I was using the latest version because I downloaded it from the site.  but your very different description of the program interface raises the question of which version you are using.  My version is 1.6.6385619.7.
 
Also, you said you tried various players and didn't like them.  if you explain why, you might find there are ways around what you didn't like or that you didn't know some commands that would make the programs much more friendly.  Even the positive review I read, which talked about many features of the program the reviewer liked, discussed features that would only be of interest to sighted users such as controling how subtitles are displayed and other visual features of the program.  The reviewer compared the program to VLC player, saying it did some things better but saying it was similar to VLC Player.  It is seldom the case that, in an area like this, with such a wide variety of programs that there is only one satisfactory program. 
 
Also, there may be ways of getting more out of a program than you are aware of.  For example, there is an add on for Winamp available for use with NVDA which provides more functionality than is available without the program. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
> gene.
> thanks so much for helping me to test the program.
> i dont have any screen reader except nvda to test.
> me too, use windows xp service pack 3
> you dont need to use nvda cursors to intract with potplayer menus.
> you should only press the application keys and you can access to all
> menus and options by normal arrow keys.
> only nvda freezes and says nothing in the windows except unknown.
> i should restart nvda to work as normal.
>
> On 12/5/16, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
>> Well, this thread has taken an interesting turn that I hadn't ever
>> anticipated (and, to quote Seinfeld, "not that there's anything wrong with
>> that.")
>>
>> So I'll use this to get back on my soapbox about when anyone encounters an
>> issue with any software or combination of software:
>>
>> * if you cannot give steps necessary to replicate the problem there's
>> virtually no hope that the problem can or will be solved
>> * if you can give steps necessary to replicate the problem, but others
>> running the same operating system and similar overall configuration that you
>> are don't have it when they perform those steps, this suggests an
>> idiosyncratic problem with your own system
>>
>> I cannot count the number of times when I've spent hours on a given problem
>> only to find out that it was a weird interaction between two programs that
>> are installed, that a system has not been updated and old DLL files are
>> being called that have errors that have long ago been fixed, etc.
>>
>> I'm not saying that anyone is directly "at fault" for anything, but these
>> are factors that you must consider and there will be occasions when "it's
>> just you" as well as many more when it's "not just you."  Having a
>> detective's mindset is essential in instances such as this.
>> --
>> *Brian*
>>
>> *Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If
>> you’re alive, it isn’t.*
>>
>>     ~ Lauren Bacall
>>
>





Re: My NVDA Not Working Properly

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi

If the E speak nz is the preferred synth package under the synth
settings, I only notice the varients come up under the voice settings
section. I just looked and saw all 3 ivon voices there. Even though i am
using a windows 10 pc it should not matter.

There is about 40 or 50 voices or varients under that section.

If it is the sapi 5 version they might have to be installed if they are
there.

if not what is mentioned above i have no idea.

I can tell you if you made extra varients where to put them, but that is
not maybe you are asking about.

Gene nz

On 6/12/2016 9:05 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:
Yeah, I know that. I was specifically asking where the ivan3 voice
was, because I only see 1 ivan voice, uneer the espeak ng synthesizer.
You didn't answer my question.



On 12/5/2016 2:40 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
hi


Under the voice settings section when you go into it under the barient
section it is a combo box open it up then arrow down the list to hear
the different varients there. the voices will change depending on the
synth package used.


I find my own voice Gene easy to listen 2.


Gene nz



On 6/12/2016 8:05 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:
I didn't know there was more than one ivan. I use ivan as well, but I
only saw one of them in the list of voices. This is using the espeak
ng. I like the ivan voice, where are the others so I may take a look
at them as well?



On 12/5/2016 2:29 AM, Dejan Ristic wrote:
Although you said that you did not understand ESpeak, what do you
think about using some of the variants it offers us? For instance, I
use Iven 3, which I find very clear. I have set the rate at 24. I do
not encounter any problems, probably because I use ESpeak, which I
find very quick and responsive. Try to get used to it. Your messages
say that your English is very good, so I think that you may get used
to it before long. Choose between the variants, and try different
rates to make it suitable for yourself. Let me also say that I used
ESpeak while doing some freelace translations from English to
Serbian, and vice versa. I was successful.


On 12/5/2016 5:28 AM, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:
Hi good people:
If you can recollect, I did send a message to this group about my
NVDA
not working properly. I did get many responses, and I thank all of
you who found time to respond. I am sorry I mistakenly deleted the
digest mail sent to me, and I can not reply to the mail. But I
believe some of you might remember the mail.
Actually, I got a very good response from David. He made some
suggestions which I've tried. I discovered when I switched off NVDa
as he suggested, and I used the demo version of JAWS for Windows,
that
the system worked very nicely, and fast.
I strongly believe that the problem must be from the synthesiser I am
using. Actually, I use Micro sofft speech AI4 which I use through
viavoice outloud. I appear to like the synthesiser, because it is
very clear and it sounds like eloquence. But it appears obsolete and
not very helpful.
I can't use the JAWS demo version, because it works in 40 minute
mode,
and one cannot usee that when doing serious work on the computer.
I downloaded Microsoft speech version 11 but it couldn't be installed
on my system. I did it several times but it didn't work. i cannot
use ESpeak, because I don't understand the speech. I tried koba
speech as well, but the speech for that is also not very easy to
comprehend.
So, can anyone suggest another synthesiser. I use windows 7 32bit.
I am Ibrahim from Nigeria.



.







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Re: Is any release prior to the latest stable release, and the next RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease

Gene
 

Also, what version of the player are you using?  My version had no menus and the screen was not readable.  If you are using an older version, accessibility may have changed.  If you are using a newer version, accessibility may have changed as well. I assumed I was using the latest version because I downloaded it from the site.  but your very different description of the program interface raises the question of which version you are using.  My version is 1.6.6385619.7.
 
Also, you said you tried various players and didn't like them.  if you explain why, you might find there are ways around what you didn't like or that you didn't know some commands that would make the programs much more friendly.  Even the positive review I read, which talked about many features of the program the reviewer liked, discussed features that would only be of interest to sighted users such as controling how subtitles are displayed and other visual features of the program.  The reviewer compared the program to VLC player, saying it did some things better but saying it was similar to VLC Player.  It is seldom the case that, in an area like this, with such a wide variety of programs that there is only one satisfactory program. 
 
Also, there may be ways of getting more out of a program than you are aware of.  For example, there is an add on for Winamp available for use with NVDA which provides more functionality than is available without the program. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
> gene.
> thanks so much for helping me to test the program.
> i dont have any screen reader except nvda to test.
> me too, use windows xp service pack 3
> you dont need to use nvda cursors to intract with potplayer menus.
> you should only press the application keys and you can access to all
> menus and options by normal arrow keys.
> only nvda freezes and says nothing in the windows except unknown.
> i should restart nvda to work as normal.
>
> On 12/5/16, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
>> Well, this thread has taken an interesting turn that I hadn't ever
>> anticipated (and, to quote Seinfeld, "not that there's anything wrong with
>> that.")
>>
>> So I'll use this to get back on my soapbox about when anyone encounters an
>> issue with any software or combination of software:
>>
>> * if you cannot give steps necessary to replicate the problem there's
>> virtually no hope that the problem can or will be solved
>> * if you can give steps necessary to replicate the problem, but others
>> running the same operating system and similar overall configuration that you
>> are don't have it when they perform those steps, this suggests an
>> idiosyncratic problem with your own system
>>
>> I cannot count the number of times when I've spent hours on a given problem
>> only to find out that it was a weird interaction between two programs that
>> are installed, that a system has not been updated and old DLL files are
>> being called that have errors that have long ago been fixed, etc.
>>
>> I'm not saying that anyone is directly "at fault" for anything, but these
>> are factors that you must consider and there will be occasions when "it's
>> just you" as well as many more when it's "not just you."  Having a
>> detective's mindset is essential in instances such as this.
>> --
>> *Brian*
>>
>> *Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If
>> you’re alive, it isn’t.*
>>
>>     ~ Lauren Bacall
>>
>





private messages not going to my inbox in thunderbird

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,


All of a sudden private messages are not going to my inbox like they'd normally do. They're going to the all mail folder instead. Is there a setting in thunderbird I need to change?


Thanks in advance.


Rosemarie


Re: Change NVDA key bindings

Andreea Neagu
 

Hi Andre,
Thank you! That did the trick.
Best regards,
Andreea

Sent from my iPhone

Pe 5 dec. 2016, la 17:33, Andre Fisher <andrefisher729@...> a scris:

Hi.

This involves great use of the Input gestures dialog. Because you want
to remap the text review functions, it might be good that you use the
laptop keyboard layout, which has different keys assigned for these
purposes.

1. Go to the NVDA menu, Preferences, Input gestures dialog.
2. Arrow down to the text review tree view and press right arrow.
3. Using your up/down arrows to move between the keyboard script
functions and your right/left arrows to open/close the tree view
items, you can delete the keyboard shortcut assignments with Numpad in
them.

Let me know how it works out.

On 12/5/16, aeneagu via Groups.Io <aeneagu=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,

I recently bought a Lenovo Ideapad 100 laptop that does not have individual
Home, End, PgUp and PgDown keys. Instead, these functions are on the Numpad
7, 1, 9 and 3 keys respectively. With NVDA off they can be used normally,
however when NVDA is on they lose their standard functionality as they
become numpad keys for review mode. Changing from desktop keyboard layout to
laptop layout does not seem to change anything, neither does Numlock on or
off, they still perform review commands.

Is there any way I can remove the binding from these 4 particular numpad
keys so that they work as regular Home, End etc, and remap other
keys/combinations for the 4 review commands?

Thanks,
Andreea


Re: Is any release prior to the latest stable release, and the next RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease

David <trailerdavid@...>
 

Just for your correction.


You said you do NOT have any other screen reader to test? I do
understand what you mean, but it is not fully and completely true.


ALL, and I mean ALL flavors of Windows - from at least XP and up - holds
Microsoft's embedded screen reader, named NARRATOR. Though far from
being a full-fledged screen reader, it many times can help you out. For
instance, due to its very basic functionality, it at least could give
you some idea to what extend a piece of software is accessible at all.
If NARRATOR cannot help you out, then chances are that the software at
the minimum requires some more advanced features of the screen reader.


I do, and have don so in other settings, on a general basis encourage
all: If your high-end screen reader cannot do what you want, give
Narrator a go. Then com back and report your findings.


Might sound a bit awkward at first glance. But sometimes the high-end
screen readers might have settings, that complicates the usage of a
software. Running Narrator, finding that things work, you might be able
to start tracing why the high-end screen reader does not do what you expect.


Furthermore, most - if not all - of the high-end screen readers, do have
downloadable demo-versions. Might be an idea, to download and install at
least one such demo, and use it for cases when you want to determine if
NVDA is the bottleneck of your issue. Far as I know, they all provide
you fully working products, with an up-time of anything from 30 to 60
minutes; Enough time to get an idea of whether your third-party software
is workable or not.


In the older days, installing more than one screen reader, sometimes
caused system trouble. To the best of my knowledge, such is NOT the case
any longer, and have not been for a decade or so. In other words,
encouraged are everyone, to go get yourself at least one backup screen
reader, if nothing else go for a demo. It further might help the tech
team of NVDA getting to the core of your problem, if you can describe
what is taken place when running an alternative screen reader.


How do you know, if you prefer McDonald burgers, if you never tasted
anything but Burger-King?


David

On 12/5/2016 5:22 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
gene.
thanks so much for helping me to test the program.
i dont have any screen reader except nvda to test.
me too, use windows xp service pack 3
you dont need to use nvda cursors to intract with potplayer menus.
you should only press the application keys and you can access to all
menus and options by normal arrow keys.
only nvda freezes and says nothing in the windows except unknown.
i should restart nvda to work as normal.

On 12/5/16, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
Well, this thread has taken an interesting turn that I hadn't ever
anticipated (and, to quote Seinfeld, "not that there's anything wrong with
that.")

So I'll use this to get back on my soapbox about when anyone encounters an
issue with any software or combination of software:

* if you cannot give steps necessary to replicate the problem there's
virtually no hope that the problem can or will be solved
* if you can give steps necessary to replicate the problem, but others
running the same operating system and similar overall configuration that you
are don't have it when they perform those steps, this suggests an
idiosyncratic problem with your own system

I cannot count the number of times when I've spent hours on a given problem
only to find out that it was a weird interaction between two programs that
are installed, that a system has not been updated and old DLL files are
being called that have errors that have long ago been fixed, etc.

I'm not saying that anyone is directly "at fault" for anything, but these
are factors that you must consider and there will be occasions when "it's
just you" as well as many more when it's "not just you." Having a
detective's mindset is essential in instances such as this.
--
*Brian*

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If
you’re alive, it isn’t.*

~ Lauren Bacall


Re: My NVDA Not Working Properly

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Yeah, I know that. I was specifically asking where the ivan3 voice was, because I only see 1 ivan voice, uneer the espeak ng synthesizer. You didn't answer my question.

On 12/5/2016 2:40 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
hi


Under the voice settings section when you go into it under the barient
section it is a combo box open it up then arrow down the list to hear
the different varients there. the voices will change depending on the
synth package used.


I find my own voice Gene easy to listen 2.


Gene nz



On 6/12/2016 8:05 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:
I didn't know there was more than one ivan. I use ivan as well, but I
only saw one of them in the list of voices. This is using the espeak
ng. I like the ivan voice, where are the others so I may take a look
at them as well?



On 12/5/2016 2:29 AM, Dejan Ristic wrote:
Although you said that you did not understand ESpeak, what do you
think about using some of the variants it offers us? For instance, I
use Iven 3, which I find very clear. I have set the rate at 24. I do
not encounter any problems, probably because I use ESpeak, which I
find very quick and responsive. Try to get used to it. Your messages
say that your English is very good, so I think that you may get used
to it before long. Choose between the variants, and try different
rates to make it suitable for yourself. Let me also say that I used
ESpeak while doing some freelace translations from English to
Serbian, and vice versa. I was successful.


On 12/5/2016 5:28 AM, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:
Hi good people:
If you can recollect, I did send a message to this group about my NVDA
not working properly. I did get many responses, and I thank all of
you who found time to respond. I am sorry I mistakenly deleted the
digest mail sent to me, and I can not reply to the mail. But I
believe some of you might remember the mail.
Actually, I got a very good response from David. He made some
suggestions which I've tried. I discovered when I switched off NVDa
as he suggested, and I used the demo version of JAWS for Windows, that
the system worked very nicely, and fast.
I strongly believe that the problem must be from the synthesiser I am
using. Actually, I use Micro sofft speech AI4 which I use through
viavoice outloud. I appear to like the synthesiser, because it is
very clear and it sounds like eloquence. But it appears obsolete and
not very helpful.
I can't use the JAWS demo version, because it works in 40 minute mode,
and one cannot usee that when doing serious work on the computer.
I downloaded Microsoft speech version 11 but it couldn't be installed
on my system. I did it several times but it didn't work. i cannot
use ESpeak, because I don't understand the speech. I tried koba
speech as well, but the speech for that is also not very easy to
comprehend.
So, can anyone suggest another synthesiser. I use windows 7 32bit.
I am Ibrahim from Nigeria.



.





Accessing Headers and Footers with NVDA

Albert Ruel
 

Hi all.  Can someone tell me how I can read the info contained in document headers and footers using NVDA? 

 

Thx, Albert

 


Re: Fixing my e-mail display name issue.

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Where are you looking to see the from field. I use thunderbird too, and I'm showing the emails are from: chris (and the rest of the name, no clue how to spell all that w/o looking), and the to: is the nvda list. In the message list, it's also listed as coming from Chris something, and subject, then to showing up as the nvda list. Which particular field is causing you concern?

On 12/5/2016 11:17 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
I have no idea why, but at least on my end, I'm seeing that my messages I send this list with Thunderbird are showing up as coming from NVDA@NVDA.groups.io rather than saying from Christopher-Mark Gilland.


Does anyone have any idea how in Thunderbird I can fix/troubleshoot this problem?


Chris.



Re: Paid Tutorials?

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


That is part of the reason the tutorials i wrote are for the desktop pc. I would have to remember them 2.


I got lazy brought a wireless keyboard with both the whole qwerty keyboard on it, so i did not have to remember separate commands when i jumped onto the note boook. Plus i did not really like the keyboard that came with the notebook as it seemed 2 high for me to type on.


Gene nz

 


On 6/12/2016 2:39 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Where do I go to purchase the paid NVDA audio tutorials, and how much are they in USD?
 
I need to check my finances, but I'm almost 100% sure I can do it. I'd like to do this if I can. I feel that I am fairly comfortable at this point with NVDA, but some of the more advanced things, I could probably use some brushing up on. Plus, I'm horrible! and I do mean horrible! at memorizing the laptop keyboard layout, which is a real problem, as the laptop I'm using doesn't have a keypad.
 
Chris.

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: Paid Tutorials?

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


That is part of the reason the tutorials i wrote are for the desktop pc. I would have to remember them 2.


I got lazy brought a wireless keyboard with both the whole qwerty keyboard on it, so i did not have to remember separate commands when i jumped onto the note boook. Plus i did not really like the keyboard that came with the notebook as it seemed 2 high for me to type on.


Gene nz

 


On 6/12/2016 2:39 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Where do I go to purchase the paid NVDA audio tutorials, and how much are they in USD?
 
I need to check my finances, but I'm almost 100% sure I can do it. I'd like to do this if I can. I feel that I am fairly comfortable at this point with NVDA, but some of the more advanced things, I could probably use some brushing up on. Plus, I'm horrible! and I do mean horrible! at memorizing the laptop keyboard layout, which is a real problem, as the laptop I'm using doesn't have a keypad.
 
Chris.

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: My NVDA Not Working Properly

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

hi


Under the voice settings section when you go into it under the barient
section it is a combo box open it up then arrow down the list to hear
the different varients there. the voices will change depending on the
synth package used.


I find my own voice Gene easy to listen 2.


Gene nz

On 6/12/2016 8:05 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:
I didn't know there was more than one ivan. I use ivan as well, but I
only saw one of them in the list of voices. This is using the espeak
ng. I like the ivan voice, where are the others so I may take a look
at them as well?



On 12/5/2016 2:29 AM, Dejan Ristic wrote:
Although you said that you did not understand ESpeak, what do you
think about using some of the variants it offers us? For instance, I
use Iven 3, which I find very clear. I have set the rate at 24. I do
not encounter any problems, probably because I use ESpeak, which I
find very quick and responsive. Try to get used to it. Your messages
say that your English is very good, so I think that you may get used
to it before long. Choose between the variants, and try different
rates to make it suitable for yourself. Let me also say that I used
ESpeak while doing some freelace translations from English to
Serbian, and vice versa. I was successful.


On 12/5/2016 5:28 AM, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:
Hi good people:
If you can recollect, I did send a message to this group about my NVDA
not working properly. I did get many responses, and I thank all of
you who found time to respond. I am sorry I mistakenly deleted the
digest mail sent to me, and I can not reply to the mail. But I
believe some of you might remember the mail.
Actually, I got a very good response from David. He made some
suggestions which I've tried. I discovered when I switched off NVDa
as he suggested, and I used the demo version of JAWS for Windows, that
the system worked very nicely, and fast.
I strongly believe that the problem must be from the synthesiser I am
using. Actually, I use Micro sofft speech AI4 which I use through
viavoice outloud. I appear to like the synthesiser, because it is
very clear and it sounds like eloquence. But it appears obsolete and
not very helpful.
I can't use the JAWS demo version, because it works in 40 minute mode,
and one cannot usee that when doing serious work on the computer.
I downloaded Microsoft speech version 11 but it couldn't be installed
on my system. I did it several times but it didn't work. i cannot
use ESpeak, because I don't understand the speech. I tried koba
speech as well, but the speech for that is also not very easy to
comprehend.
So, can anyone suggest another synthesiser. I use windows 7 32bit.
I am Ibrahim from Nigeria.



.






--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


No, the material i started putting together a couple of years back to
help new users of nvda. Because i only use a desktop pc, the commands
are for a desktop user. Other stuff was done as a audio tutorial for
people to follow. But there is a limited drop box which is only 2 gig so
had to drop the audio level size so more could be posted at a later date.


The only paid stuff i know of is from the shop about 30 aussie bucks and
i think is mostly written or maybe in a daisy format.


The tutorials etc up on the website of mine i started doing as there was
a very limited amount of material for the nvda screen reader.


Gene nz

On 6/12/2016 2:08 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
This is wonderful! Are these the paid tutorials that NVDA devs are
putting together?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene New Zealand"
<hurrikennyandopo@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 5:26 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net


Hi guys

It is Gene NZ (who is putting together the AccessibilityCentral.net
website).
Some people are aware of it and there are a few that are not. It is a
blindness related website where I also post both written and audio
tutorials for the NVDA screen reader, along with other blindness related
material.

These are fairly easy to follow, (that is they are step by step
instructions) and for a desktop computer.
They are basically, to get a new user of NVDA up and running.

At present, any that are written are identified under a heading on the
main AccessibilityCentral.net homepage of the website. The heading is
called pages recently updated, and they are listed below this heading or
put onto my AccessibilityCentral.net facebook page.

I have had a few people also suggest that when these tutorials go up (or
are passed on) to do with the NVDA screen reader, that I should let the
list know each time that they go up. These tutorials will only be the
ones that end up on the website. The notification will state on which
page they are on, or have come off. I will be doing this from now on.

One of the tutorials that has extra information put into it is called
Accessible email client Mozilla Thunderbird.
There are 10 sections added in, starting from the following heading
called How to navigate Mozilla Thunderbird with NVDA.

The page can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html


There is also another tutorial by David Moore, that covers the Windows
10 Mail app (which can be found off the NVDA tutorials for other
programs page). The direct link to this tutorial can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/How%20to%20use%20the%20Mail%20app%20in%20Windows%2010%20with%20NVDA.html


I will add more tutorials to this thread as they are written up.

Gene NZ


--

<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for
NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related
topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to
date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us
on facebook by visiting
the following link
https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen
reader available by visiting the following link
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries






--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: another thunderbird list

 

Rosemarie,

         Community Support at Mozilla and elsewhere is free.  There is no fee of any sort involved.

         Start at this Mozilla Support Sign-In Page.  If you do not yet have a Mozilla account then go straight to the "Ask a Question" button and you will have to create one in the process of asking your first question.  After that you can bookmark the Thunderbird forum webpage and go straight there (presuming you're logged in, of course) to ask additional questions.

          How you create message filters depends directly on whether you are using IMAP, in which case all message filters and corresponding folders they should sort to are created on your e-mail server (or should be) or POP, where filtering is local and handled by the e-mail client since messages are not retained on the server nor are folders for filtering available on the server.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



Re: Thank you and another problem

Rui Fontes
 

Control+3 to go to Contacts.

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Gene New Zealand
Data: 5 de dezembro de 2016 19:13
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Thank you and another problem



Hi Sakina




sorry i can not help you there as now i only use thunderbird.




I would have to look but i am pretty sure i have the shortcuts for outlook maybe 2010 or 2013. They might help you if you want them.




Gene nz

On 6/12/2016 7:07 AM, Sakina wrote:


Hello Gene,

It is Outlook.

Thank you Sakina





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 6:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Thank you and another problem





Hi



In which program?



Gene nz







On 5/12/2016 12:19 AM, Sakina wrote:



Thank you so much Gene for your prompt help. Thank you again very much.

Please Gene, I have another problem.

I do not know how to add, delete or organise my contact list or is it called address book.

Sorry for being ignorant.

I just rely on someone to send me an email first.

I hope you can help. And thank you for guiding me to the look back to all the older options.

With many regards

Sakina









From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 7:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] something I discovered when going through the what's new option





Hi sakina



When NVDA is running press the nvda key + the letter N.\



Next arrow down to help after the preferences menu comes up, then right to where the user manual is.

next arrow down to the whats new section then press the enter key and then your browser will come up with all the info since the first version as in what has been done, bug fixes and so on.





Gene nz







On 4/12/2016 6:27 AM, Sakina wrote:



Hello Chris,

Would it be possible for you to share this new discovery option link as I am fairly new user and would like to look back for learning too.

Thanking you very much

sakina





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Judd
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 6:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] something I discovered when going through the what's new option







Hi all,







I was going through the what’s new option for the latest release of NVDA, and I found that all the previous release notes are there all the way back till 0.5.



It is nice to read all the accomplishments that NVDA has made over the years, and since I’m a fairly new user, I’m glad that it is there, so I can take a look, and see what the early versions were like.



Just thought I would share what I discovered.



Chris











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Re: NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Gene NZ,


Will you be putting up a tutorial on message rules? That would help a lot.


Thanks.


Rosemarie

On 12/5/2016 2:26 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi guys

It is Gene NZ (who is putting together the AccessibilityCentral.net
website).
Some people are aware of it and there are a few that are not. It is a
blindness related website where I also post both written and audio
tutorials for the NVDA screen reader, along with other blindness related
material.

These are fairly easy to follow, (that is they are step by step
instructions) and for a desktop computer.
They are basically, to get a new user of NVDA up and running.

At present, any that are written are identified under a heading on the
main AccessibilityCentral.net homepage of the website. The heading is
called pages recently updated, and they are listed below this heading or
put onto my AccessibilityCentral.net facebook page.

I have had a few people also suggest that when these tutorials go up (or
are passed on) to do with the NVDA screen reader, that I should let the
list know each time that they go up. These tutorials will only be the
ones that end up on the website. The notification will state on which
page they are on, or have come off. I will be doing this from now on.

One of the tutorials that has extra information put into it is called
Accessible email client Mozilla Thunderbird.
There are 10 sections added in, starting from the following heading
called How to navigate Mozilla Thunderbird with NVDA.

The page can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

There is also another tutorial by David Moore, that covers the Windows
10 Mail app (which can be found off the NVDA tutorials for other
programs page). The direct link to this tutorial can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/How%20to%20use%20the%20Mail%20app%20in%20Windows%2010%20with%20NVDA.html

I will add more tutorials to this thread as they are written up.

Gene NZ