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Re: Moving from Windows 7 to 10, what can I expectg from NVDA?

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I have a theory that since they never seem to be able to plug the holes in windows, they will use a blanket approach so you cannot get at anything which might allow hacking to occur, but it also affects general usage and seems counter productive. I suggest that somebody is right now working on a mega registry hack to fix it and annoy the heck out of Microsoft.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Arlene" <nedster66@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Moving from Windows 7 to 10, what can I expectg from NVDA?


Oh? getting like apple. That's horrible how secure it's getting!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun
Everiss
Sent: December-09-16 8:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Moving from Windows 7 to 10, what can I expectg from
NVDA?

I know right I can't even open files on my external drives anymore.
All this security is fine, I really think ms should impliment a root system
like linux does.
The only time you have ever to go root is if you do something system
spaciffic like updating it or something.
You never need root for any user program unless it needs system access.
Your programs all install to your user directory, yes you can do that but
the defaults are just system folders now.
Having everything open is a security risk.
But uak and the permitions thing is getting really old really fast add in
the ms account and you have a nice nightmare waiting to happen.



On 10/12/2016 12:18 a.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Yes most of the problems I have with ten are due to the way ten
operates and restricts things and makes nvda's portable version of
less use, its all down to the I wont allow that type of hand holding
we have been experiencing from Microsoft over a while now. If it was
open like XP some of the better ways of doing things would be
universally welcomed but suffice to say that no you do not have
permission even if you are the admin and no you cannot copy this to
here unless you raise your admin rights and so on are just getting
really irritating now. 7 is bad enough in this respect but 10, well.
what can I say, when is protection just a pain?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosemarie Chavarria"
<knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Moving from Windows 7 to 10, what can I expectg
from NVDA?


Hi, John,

I'm using windows 10 right now with NVDA and it works great. NVDA
continues to get better and better with each new version.

Hope this helps.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
John J.
Boyer
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 10:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Moving from Windows 7 to 10, what can I expectg from
NVDA?

I'm thinking of replacing my Wincows 7 machine. It is almost 10 years
old and has become unreliable. What can I expect from NVDA in Windows 10?

Thanks,
John

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Re: NVDA and MalWare Bytes

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The installer seems to be the biggest hurdle finding the button to continue. I had to use one of the navigation modes to achieve this. After that its pretty simple though everything useful tells you you need the paid version I notice, but for a straight scan and fix or producing a log its fine. It did unfortunately remove my password tools, which I then had to reinstall. It also put an auto start in which I removed since it was becoming annoying.
Brian
Superantispywaare seems to have similar issues. Do they all use the same kind of installer?
Anyone tried Spybot recently?
I used to have that until it started to fall over a lot.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 7:01 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and MalWare Bytes


I have heard that Malware Bytes is accessible but I can't seem to get anywhere with it using NVDA. Is there a way to use this program with NVDA?
Thanks


Re: whats the best and most accessible player for me?

Ian Blackburn
 

Yes VLC media player allows you to speed up the playback
Peach stays the same

Sent from my iPhone

On 10 Dec. 2016, at 6:37 pm, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:

hi dejan.
thanks so much for your informations which are realy great and informative.

whats your idea about foobar2000?
i did not test it.
and whats your idea about allplayer?
i realy appreciate if someone explanes for me allplayer.

On 12/10/16, Jacob Kruger <jacob@blindza.co.za> wrote:
Does VLC offer audio playback speed adjustment, with voice correction?


Ask since, gom player also offers pretty loud volume, but, one of the
reasons started using it was the voice adjustment for playback speed, etc.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-12-10 12:13, Dejan Ristic wrote:

One more thing concerning LVC Media Player:


The sound volume can be turned up almost as much as you like it.
That's what I like about it. When i read books with the recording
volume turned down, I use VLC to turn up the playback volume.


On 12/10/2016 1:30 AM, David Moore wrote:

Hi all,

NVDA works very well with VLC media player. It will play almost every
audio and video format, and it is open software. I love it.

David Moore

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Windows 10

*From: *Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Friday, December 9, 2016 7:24 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] whats the best and most accessible player for me?

If you get winamp from the ninite site, you won't get toolbars. If
you get it from another site, you have to uncheck a box so you won't
get those toolbars.

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
nasrin khaksar

Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 8:28 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] whats the best and most accessible player for me?

winamp installs extra toolbars and adware.

i want to clean program without any adware and spyware also.

with all capability which i need.

does winamp have audio capture?

On 12/9/16, Peter Beasley <pjbeasley23@gmail.com> wrote:

Winamp.
-----Original Message-----
From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 1:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] whats the best and most accessible player for me?
hello every one.
here you are my cryteria for best player and i am waiting for your
guide.

i need a very simple and accessible player which nvda supports great.
i need playing files and folders.
i need repeate, shuffle, audio capture, great quality of voice and
also changing speed without loss of quality.
i wished that use vlc media player, but it was not accessible.
for example: in the settings, nvda announces fonts attributes of the
options!
and also says pain pain pain pain many time before saying options and
menus!
i could not find its shortcuts and i could not use most of my
cryterian which i need!
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org
--

we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.

holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.

in the very authentic narration is:

imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.

best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org



--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: whats the best and most accessible player for me?

 

hi dejan.
thanks so much for your informations which are realy great and informative.

whats your idea about foobar2000?
i did not test it.
and whats your idea about allplayer?
i realy appreciate if someone explanes for me allplayer.

On 12/10/16, Jacob Kruger <jacob@blindza.co.za> wrote:
Does VLC offer audio playback speed adjustment, with voice correction?


Ask since, gom player also offers pretty loud volume, but, one of the
reasons started using it was the voice adjustment for playback speed, etc.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-12-10 12:13, Dejan Ristic wrote:

One more thing concerning LVC Media Player:


The sound volume can be turned up almost as much as you like it.
That's what I like about it. When i read books with the recording
volume turned down, I use VLC to turn up the playback volume.


On 12/10/2016 1:30 AM, David Moore wrote:

Hi all,

NVDA works very well with VLC media player. It will play almost every
audio and video format, and it is open software. I love it.

David Moore

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Friday, December 9, 2016 7:24 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] whats the best and most accessible player for me?

If you get winamp from the ninite site, you won't get toolbars. If
you get it from another site, you have to uncheck a box so you won't
get those toolbars.

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
nasrin khaksar

Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 8:28 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] whats the best and most accessible player for me?

winamp installs extra toolbars and adware.

i want to clean program without any adware and spyware also.

with all capability which i need.

does winamp have audio capture?

On 12/9/16, Peter Beasley <pjbeasley23@gmail.com> wrote:

Winamp.
-----Original Message-----
From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 1:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] whats the best and most accessible player for me?
hello every one.
here you are my cryteria for best player and i am waiting for your
guide.

i need a very simple and accessible player which nvda supports great.
i need playing files and folders.
i need repeate, shuffle, audio capture, great quality of voice and
also changing speed without loss of quality.
i wished that use vlc media player, but it was not accessible.
for example: in the settings, nvda announces fonts attributes of the
options!
and also says pain pain pain pain many time before saying options and
menus!
i could not find its shortcuts and i could not use most of my
cryterian which i need!
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org
--

we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.

holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.

in the very authentic narration is:

imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.

best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: whats the best and most accessible player for me?

Jacob Kruger
 

Does VLC offer audio playback speed adjustment, with voice correction?


Ask since, gom player also offers pretty loud volume, but, one of the reasons started using it was the voice adjustment for playback speed, etc.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2016-12-10 12:13, Dejan Ristic wrote:

One more thing concerning LVC Media Player:


The sound volume can be turned up almost as much as you like it. That's what I like about it. When i read books with the recording volume turned down, I use VLC to turn up the playback volume.


On 12/10/2016 1:30 AM, David Moore wrote:

Hi all,

NVDA works very well with VLC media player. It will play almost every audio and video format, and it is open software. I love it.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 7:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] whats the best and most accessible player for me?

 

If you get winamp from the ninite site, you won't get toolbars. If you get it from another site, you have to uncheck a box so you won't get those toolbars.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar

Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 8:28 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] whats the best and most accessible player for me?

 

winamp installs extra toolbars and adware.

i want to clean program without any adware and spyware also.

with all capability which i need.

does winamp have audio capture?

 

On 12/9/16, Peter Beasley <pjbeasley23@...> wrote:

> Winamp.

> -----Original Message-----

> From: nasrin khaksar

> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 1:42 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] whats the best and most accessible player for me?

> hello every one.

> here you are my cryteria for best player and i am waiting for your guide.

> i need a very simple and accessible player which nvda supports great.

> i need playing files and folders.

> i need repeate, shuffle, audio capture, great quality of voice and

> also changing speed without loss of quality.

> i wished that use vlc media player, but it was not accessible.

> for example: in the settings, nvda announces fonts attributes of the

> options!

> and also says pain pain pain pain many time before saying options and

> menus!

> i could not find its shortcuts and i could not use most of my

> cryterian which i need!

> --

> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.

> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.

> in the very authentic narration is:

> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.

> best website for studying islamic book in different languages

> al-islam.org

>

 

 

--

we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.

holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.

in the very authentic narration is:

imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.

best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org

 

 

 

 

 

 

 






Re: whats the best and most accessible player for me?

Dejan Ristic
 

One more thing concerning LVC Media Player:


The sound volume can be turned up almost as much as you like it. That's what I like about it. When i read books with the recording volume turned down, I use VLC to turn up the playback volume.


On 12/10/2016 1:30 AM, David Moore wrote:

Hi all,

NVDA works very well with VLC media player. It will play almost every audio and video format, and it is open software. I love it.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 7:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] whats the best and most accessible player for me?

 

If you get winamp from the ninite site, you won't get toolbars. If you get it from another site, you have to uncheck a box so you won't get those toolbars.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar

Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 8:28 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] whats the best and most accessible player for me?

 

winamp installs extra toolbars and adware.

i want to clean program without any adware and spyware also.

with all capability which i need.

does winamp have audio capture?

 

On 12/9/16, Peter Beasley <pjbeasley23@...> wrote:

> Winamp.

> -----Original Message-----

> From: nasrin khaksar

> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 1:42 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] whats the best and most accessible player for me?

> hello every one.

> here you are my cryteria for best player and i am waiting for your guide.

> i need a very simple and accessible player which nvda supports great.

> i need playing files and folders.

> i need repeate, shuffle, audio capture, great quality of voice and

> also changing speed without loss of quality.

> i wished that use vlc media player, but it was not accessible.

> for example: in the settings, nvda announces fonts attributes of the

> options!

> and also says pain pain pain pain many time before saying options and

> menus!

> i could not find its shortcuts and i could not use most of my

> cryterian which i need!

> --

> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.

> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.

> in the very authentic narration is:

> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.

> best website for studying islamic book in different languages

> al-islam.org

>

 

 

--

we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.

holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.

in the very authentic narration is:

imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.

best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org

 

 

 

 

 

 

 





Re: whats the best and most accessible player for me?

Dejan Ristic
 

No, it is impossible to use VLC without the add-on written for such purposes. I will not say that VLC is all-accessible while using it even with the add-on, but, it becomes more accessible when the add-on is engaged.


Here is the link to the add-on:


http://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/vlc.en.html


If you also use an add-on called Objpad, it can help you in some ways to make a programme accessible to some extent.


Try it too:


http://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/objPad.en.html


I do not wish to say that your satisfaction is filled to the brim by these two add-ons, but it is easier to use VLC by means of these.


If you wish to do an in-depth reading of the screen when VLC is open, press NVDA plus B to have all the screen read to you, so that you will be able to use it with Objpad afterwards, which further means that you will get familiar with what is on your screen as far as VLC is concerned. It will make you understand how to use the programme with Objpad.


As for your full-to-the-brim wishes, I would say Winamp.

On 12/9/2016 7:06 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
i dont like windows media player.
i want to have great player with all my cryteria.
i wish that use vlc without any addon.
is it possible?
or is there any setting to make vlc accessible without addon?
i wish that dont hear pain, pain, pain, with using its options.

On 12/9/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Yes no one player seems to do it all these days. I tend to use. Awkward
files that don't work anywhere even if klite is installed VLC player
General use. Winamp
Certain sites Media Player Classic
and sometimes the old Windows Media Player not the new heap of junk they
put out with windows 10.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "mk360" <mk.seventhson@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] whats the best and most accessible player for me?


For me, media player clasic homecinema for video and foobar2000 for audio.

Also winamp continues working including windows 10.


El 09/12/2016 a las 10:42, nasrin khaksar escribió:
hello every one.
here you are my cryteria for best player and i am waiting for your
guide.
i need a very simple and accessible player which nvda supports great.
i need playing files and folders.
i need repeate, shuffle, audio capture, great quality of voice and
also changing speed without loss of quality.
i wished that use vlc media player, but it was not accessible.
for example: in the settings, nvda announces fonts attributes of the
options!
and also says pain pain pain pain many time before saying options and
menus!

i could not find its shortcuts and i could not use most of my
cryterian which i need!




Re: NVDA and NotePad++ and programming Python

Jacob Kruger
 

Object navigation - use numpad 7 and 9 to review contents of console window.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2016-12-10 05:45, bjp998@... wrote:

        Hello guys. I am using NotePad++ to program with Python. Is there a way to read what's on the screen when in the run window, such as if you print something. All I get when using the arrows is >>>. Any help would be appreciated.       



Re: Development of a new braille display driver

Shyam Shah
 

Hi,
It is a 20 cell display with a perkins braille keypad. It also has cursor routing buttons and a few other navigation keys. You can check out our website: www.innovisiontech.co


regards,

Shyam
CEO of Innovision

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Buddy Brannan <buddy@...> wrote:
Now you can't just say something like that and not tell us anything about said new braille display!

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Mobile: 814-431-0962
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> On Dec 9, 2016, at 1:19 AM, Shyam Shah <shyam.shah511@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I am Shyam from India. I run an assistive technology company - Innovision. We are coming up with a braille display and need to develop a driver for the NVDA screen reader. Could anyone guide me to the right person for this job?
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Shyam Shah
> CEO & Co-founder INNOVISION
> www.innovisiontech.co
>







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Re: Moving from Windows 7 to 10, what can I expectg from NVDA?

Arlene
 

Oh? getting like apple. That's horrible how secure it's getting!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun
Everiss
Sent: December-09-16 8:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Moving from Windows 7 to 10, what can I expectg from
NVDA?

I know right I can't even open files on my external drives anymore.
All this security is fine, I really think ms should impliment a root system
like linux does.
The only time you have ever to go root is if you do something system
spaciffic like updating it or something.
You never need root for any user program unless it needs system access.
Your programs all install to your user directory, yes you can do that but
the defaults are just system folders now.
Having everything open is a security risk.
But uak and the permitions thing is getting really old really fast add in
the ms account and you have a nice nightmare waiting to happen.



On 10/12/2016 12:18 a.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Yes most of the problems I have with ten are due to the way ten
operates and restricts things and makes nvda's portable version of
less use, its all down to the I wont allow that type of hand holding
we have been experiencing from Microsoft over a while now. If it was
open like XP some of the better ways of doing things would be
universally welcomed but suffice to say that no you do not have
permission even if you are the admin and no you cannot copy this to
here unless you raise your admin rights and so on are just getting
really irritating now. 7 is bad enough in this respect but 10, well.
what can I say, when is protection just a pain?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosemarie Chavarria"
<knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Moving from Windows 7 to 10, what can I expectg
from NVDA?


Hi, John,

I'm using windows 10 right now with NVDA and it works great. NVDA
continues to get better and better with each new version.

Hope this helps.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
John J.
Boyer
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 10:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Moving from Windows 7 to 10, what can I expectg from
NVDA?

I'm thinking of replacing my Wincows 7 machine. It is almost 10 years
old and has become unreliable. What can I expect from NVDA in Windows 10?

Thanks,
John

--
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AbilitiesSoft, Inc.
Email: john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org
website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: 501(C)(3) NONPROFIT
Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA
Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM
services
that are available at no cost












Re: Moving from Windows 7 to 10, what can I expectg from NVDA?

 

I know right I can't even open files on my external drives anymore.
All this security is fine, I really think ms should impliment a root system like linux does.
The only time you have ever to go root is if you do something system spaciffic like updating it or something.
You never need root for any user program unless it needs system access.
Your programs all install to your user directory, yes you can do that but the defaults are just system folders now.
Having everything open is a security risk.
But uak and the permitions thing is getting really old really fast add in the ms account and you have a nice nightmare waiting to happen.

On 10/12/2016 12:18 a.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Yes most of the problems I have with ten are due to the way ten operates
and restricts things and makes nvda's portable version of less use, its
all down to the I wont allow that type of hand holding we have been
experiencing from Microsoft over a while now. If it was open like XP
some of the better ways of doing things would be universally welcomed
but suffice to say that no you do not have permission even if you are
the admin and no you cannot copy this to here unless you raise your
admin rights and so on are just getting really irritating now. 7 is bad
enough in this respect but 10, well.
what can I say, when is protection just a pain?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosemarie Chavarria"
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Moving from Windows 7 to 10, what can I expectg from
NVDA?


Hi, John,

I'm using windows 10 right now with NVDA and it works great. NVDA
continues
to get better and better with each new version.

Hope this helps.

Rosemarie



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Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 10:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Moving from Windows 7 to 10, what can I expectg from
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I'm thinking of replacing my Wincows 7 machine. It is almost 10 years old
and has become unreliable. What can I expect from NVDA in Windows 10?

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Re: whats the best and most accessible player for me?

 

Well you will need plugins for winamp if you go to the winamp forums or there is another site where some plugin maker docter something I forget who and the address has a version without anything in it.
Sadly with the death of winamp at least till radiognome gets its ass out of its tank and actually releases anything won't be up.
Sadly the entire winamp plugin database is down.
That means the only plugins you get are if you like get someone's configuration.
ftp.andrelouis.com/programs has an old portable winamp which has just about everything for chips.
But if you search there are plugins for just about everything you just have to look.

On 10/12/2016 5:47 a.m., Dejan Ristic wrote:
?What do you think about Windows Media Player, or even Winamp, though?


As for VLc, do you use an add-on called VLC Media Player?


On 12/9/2016 2:42 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hello every one.
here you are my cryteria for best player and i am waiting for your guide.
i need a very simple and accessible player which nvda supports great.
i need playing files and folders.
i need repeate, shuffle, audio capture, great quality of voice and
also changing speed without loss of quality.
i wished that use vlc media player, but it was not accessible.
for example: in the settings, nvda announces fonts attributes of the
options!
and also says pain pain pain pain many time before saying options and
menus!

i could not find its shortcuts and i could not use most of my
cryterian which i need!



.


Re: whats the best and most accessible player for me?

 

The only thing winamp has extra is asc and or google just about everyone has that.
Its all free anyway, technically it has emusic which a friend of mine is trying to get working, I myself havn't tried that but heck if he is trying to get it working then its not that bad.

On 10/12/2016 5:27 a.m., nasrin khaksar wrote:
winamp installs extra toolbars and adware.
i want to clean program without any adware and spyware also.
with all capability which i need.
does winamp have audio capture?

On 12/9/16, Peter Beasley <pjbeasley23@gmail.com> wrote:
Winamp.

-----Original Message-----
From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 1:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] whats the best and most accessible player for me?

hello every one.
here you are my cryteria for best player and i am waiting for your guide.
i need a very simple and accessible player which nvda supports great.
i need playing files and folders.
i need repeate, shuffle, audio capture, great quality of voice and
also changing speed without loss of quality.
i wished that use vlc media player, but it was not accessible.
for example: in the settings, nvda announces fonts attributes of the
options!
and also says pain pain pain pain many time before saying options and
menus!

i could not find its shortcuts and i could not use most of my
cryterian which i need!

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holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
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al-islam.org







Re: how to use mozilla thunderbird with nvda?

 

hi gene.
its realy great and thanks extremely if it solves my problem!
i wish divine mercy for you all.

On 12/9/16, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:
hi

There is a part in the tutorial if you have mozilla thunder bird set to
tabs how to change it to a new window. I am guessing that is what might
be happening

Any how to have a look to see what it is set to you will need to do the
following.

When thunder bird is open press the alt key then go to tools, then down
to options, then press the enter key.

I think you land on the general tab. There are tabs that go from left to
right. You can use the arrow keys to navigate them. Locate the display tab.

Tab once i think it is and there will be 3 more tabs. Again you can use
the arrow keys to navigate these tabs.

Locate the advanced tab, then start tabbing a couple of times. Just
under the section where it says amount of time before opening a email
usually set to 5 seconds, it will give you the options either to open in
a tab, existing window or a new window. get it to open in a new window.
I think you can use the arrow keys to change them, then tab to the next
options.

I do not like the tab way, so hopefully the above directions will help.

Gene nz
.On 10/12/2016 1:10 AM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi every one.
thanks for your suggestions and advice.
hi gene.
thanks extremely for your link.
it was expected link that i realy need it!
i downloaded the tutorial to study it.
i made firefox as default browser and thunderbird my default email
client.
but my emails were opened with firefox!

On 12/8/16, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:
Hi


the following link might help him. It can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

it makes me wonder if he is opening it in a new tab and not a new
window.


the link should get him up and running and there are some views etc he
can set thunder bird to as well.


I am wondering as well is he talking about when a link is pressed on
that it is bringing it up in another browser.


He should be able to set mozilla fire fox as the default.


gene nz



On 5/12/2016 1:41 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Also, I forgot, I am using NVDA latest version 2016.3 for Thunderbird.
It works just fine.



On 12/4/2016 7:08 AM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi,
thanks extremely for your detailed and great information!
i should practice them to learn them!
when i opened one message, my firefox opened it instead of my
thunderbird!
how to open them with thunderbird and set it to be easy as firefox?
i tried desabling the preference under general and unfortunately
thunderbird stors all tabs and messages which i opened previously.
besides, whats the best version in simplicity and accessibility easy
to use with nvda?
whats the best versions in this regard?
is there any advance settings that i should change like advance
settings in firefox about:config
God bless you and his infinite mercy i pray for you.

On 12/4/16, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote:
Hi Again,


I forgot a few important items.


You may be having confusion because of the start page issue. Under
tools/options/general, uncheck the box that says 'show the start
page in
the message area.' This way, when you launch Thunderbird, you will
go
directly to your list of folder/messages.


If you receive a message with an attachment, with the message open,
press alt + M for the message item and H for the attachments item.
You
will then see a bunch of choices including open (the name of the file
attachment) open all, save all and so on.


You can also use tab and shift tab to get to the attachments and use
the
right click (context menu) item, but this is a bit cumbersome, so i
prefer the former method.


Also, I find the following to work well--though a bit cumbersome when
trying to place addresses in various of the CC/BCC/To fields.


If you open a new message and back tab 8 times, you are placed in the
list of addresses in your default or main address book. If you want
to
do a mass mailing, thenyou can arrow down or use first letter
navigation (which works for the address book, and select address with
the control + space bar method and then press the following
keystrokes
to place large numbers of addresses into the various fields.


alt + A for To field

alt + C for CC field

alt + B for BCC field.


If you wish to place various addresses in multiple field, each time
you
place them there, you will have to back tab again until you hear
'contacts, tree view.' This will place you back into the list of
addresses to continue choosing separate fields until you have
completed
your list of mass addresses. It is a bit cumbersome, but unless
someone
else has figured out a better way, it is better than going directly
from
the address book and then moving around the list and right clicking
and
tghen choosing write and then moving the addresses around from field
to
field to that you have some in the to field, some in the cc field and
some in the bcc field.


I hope this meandering list of commands over the course of two
messages
helps someone some way.





On 12/4/2016 6:10 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hello:


Thunderbird is pretty straight forward. Once you install the
program, you must set up your account. By default, after the first
installation, this screen comes up--where you enter your e-mail
address, name, server settings and so on. If for some reason, it
does
not come up after the first installation, then you can find settings
for the e-mail account under the tools menu (alt +
T) and the accounting settings (press S after alt + T) item.


Once the account settings screen comes up, tab once to the account
settings button and press space bar. A context menu opens and one
of
the choice is 'add e-mail account.' If you choose this item, a
standard mail configuration screen comes up and you fill in your
information.


Now here are a few settings that I prefer. Others may have
different
opinions. I came from the Outlook Express experience in earlier
versions of Windows, so I set my view settings as follows.


Under the tool bars menu under view, I have menu bar and status bar
checked.

Under the layout sub menu item under view, I have the folder pain
checked and the classic view item checked. I do not have the message
pain checked. This causes problems with many screen reader users.
If
this gets checked by accident, it toggles on and off with the press
of
the function Key 8 on your keyboard.


Under the folder sub menu item under view, I have the all item
checked--nothing else.


Under the today pane, I have none checked--nothing else. This
feature
is nice for sighted people, but it can cause issues for screen
readers.


The sort by item is up to you. I have date and ascending order
checked which places the most recent messages at the bottom of the
list in each folder.


The thread sub menu item is also personal preference but I have all
checked and then I use the command letter N when in a folder with no
open messages to unsort to read each message separately so they
won't
open all at once and the letter T for setting them back to threaded
so
I can do mass deletions.


Under the headers sub menu item, I have normal checked. This avoids
the full headers which take up a massive amount of space with
gibberish most people don't understand.


Under the message body as item, I have simple HTML which suffices
for
most purposes.


The display attachments inline should be unchecked--otherwise files
you attach which are binary or music will create a lot of gibberish
that no one can read.


Now here are a few shortcut and hotkeys to get you started. Many of
them are similar to Outlook Express with a few notable exceptions.


To bring up the address book where you can create e-mail address and
properly send e-mail, the keystroke is control+ shift + B. From the
address book, check the various sub menus for how to create new
entries (control + N) and so on.


To start a new message from scratch without using the address book,
the keystroke is Control + N.

To reply to a message you have received the keystroke is Control +
R.
If you wish to respond to everyone in the headers the keystroke is
control + shift + R.

Here's one odd one. To forward a message, press control + L. This
differs from most other Microsoft clients which use Control +

F.

Control + F is used either to find messages in a folder with no open
messages, or to find text in an open message.

To attach a file, from an open message you are writing, press
control
+ shift + A. This opens a browse for folder/file dialogue where you
can move to the default folder for attachments.

Once you have completed writing a message, you can either configure
the message to be sent immediately under your account settings or
you
can use the keystroke control + enter to send the message. If send
immediately is not configured, you will receive a prompt to send the
message after pressing control + enter to whcih you respond yes.


As far as navigation from folder to folder, the easiest way to do
this
in my opinion is to use the Function key 6 (F6) keystroke that will
move ou from the list of messages, to the tabs to the folder list.
For
example, if you are in the list of messages and you press F6, you
should go to the folder list. One important thing to remember is
that
first letter navigation within the folder list is not possible for
some reason. Unlike in Outlook Express, you must use up and down
arrow keys to move from one folder to another in the tree view and
then press tab once to move to the list of messages in each folder.
That's one big drawback.


For any more settings issues, use the tools menu alt + T and choose
options. There are a bunch of settings for everything from
signatures
to just how return receipts are handled. Explore these settings and
make preferred choices.


As with any new program, check under the various menus--both from
the
main inbox folder and from wsithin a new message or open message to
get further tips and tricks as to how to use the program.





On 12/4/2016 2:52 AM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hello every one.
i tried mozilla thunderbird for the second time without any
success.
i could not do anything with it.
could you please send me a link which contains complete tutorial in
using thunderbird with nvda?
thanks extremely for your help and God bless you all.
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Re: whats the best and most accessible player for me?

 

hi.
gene,
thanks so much for your help as always.
but i prefer to only use one kind of program for my different needs!
i dont like to use many programs which do same task.
vlc is not accessible without addon am i right?
or is there any version which is completely accessible without any addon?
hi matt. can you explane more about foobar2000?
whats the different between it and other players?
hi mk.
is there any version of vlc or one setting to make it accessible
without any addon?
hi brian and rosemarie.
the quality in winamp was not great for me.
it causes many hangs for my system.
and it does not support formats like AMR
does its have audio kapture?
hi david.
does vlc have audio kapture?
how do you use it without problem and how did you make it accessible?
which version of vlc do you use?
God bless you all and thanks extremely for your help.

On 12/10/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
NVDA works very well with VLC media player. It will play almost every audio
and video format, and it is open software. I love it.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 7:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] whats the best and most accessible player for me?

If you get winamp from the ninite site, you won't get toolbars. If you get
it from another site, you have to uncheck a box so you won't get those
toolbars.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin
khaksar
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 8:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] whats the best and most accessible player for me?

winamp installs extra toolbars and adware.
i want to clean program without any adware and spyware also.
with all capability which i need.
does winamp have audio capture?

On 12/9/16, Peter Beasley <pjbeasley23@gmail.com> wrote:
Winamp.

-----Original Message-----
From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 1:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] whats the best and most accessible player for me?

hello every one.
here you are my cryteria for best player and i am waiting for your guide.
i need a very simple and accessible player which nvda supports great.
i need playing files and folders.
i need repeate, shuffle, audio capture, great quality of voice and
also changing speed without loss of quality.
i wished that use vlc media player, but it was not accessible.
for example: in the settings, nvda announces fonts attributes of the
options!
and also says pain pain pain pain many time before saying options and
menus!

i could not find its shortcuts and i could not use most of my
cryterian which i need!

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org







--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org








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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
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al-islam.org


NVDA and NotePad++ and programming Python

bjp998@...
 

        Hello guys. I am using NotePad++ to program with Python. Is there a way to read what's on the screen when in the run window, such as if you print something. All I get when using the arrows is >>>. Any help would be appreciated.       


Re: card games that work with NVDA

David Moore
 

Thanks a lot.

This will be exciting.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Greg Wocher
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 6:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] card games that work with NVDA

 

Hello,

 

GMA Games has some card games that work with NVDA. Go to:

 

www.gmagames.com

 

Once there look in the free games section to find it.

 

 

Regards,

 

Greg Wocher

 

 

 

On 12/8/2016 8:35 PM, Wayne Melling wrote:

> Hi Don,

> I use the card games at Spoonbill Software and they work great with NDVA

> and windows 10.

> The web site is http://www.spoonbillsoftware.com.au/blindgamers.htm

> On 12/8/2016 7:31 PM, Don H wrote:

>> Are there any free card games or other games that work well with NVDA?

>> Thanks

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

 

 


Re: Updating add-ons

David Moore
 

Hi,

Here is a link to find some add ons:

www.Addons.nvda-project.org

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: brennenkinch@...
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 8:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updating add-ons

 

Hi I am having a problem I cannot find the webpages to update some of these add-ons where do I go

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

> On Dec 9, 2016, at 6:39 AM, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:

>

> Well I'm happy to test things as I do have machines that can be allowed to fall over and not mess up my life, but as for coding, no, not up though that realistically.

> I do feel though as I've said in this thread before that one might well be creating a hackers charter here if one is not very careful indeed.

> Brian

>

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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 7:08 AM

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Updating add-ons

>

>

>> Hi,

>> As one of the investigators regarding add-on updates, the issue now is

>> cooperation. But before I continue, let me try my best to spell out exactly

>> what I and other developers are looking at:

>> * Do we think this is high priority: yes, although not as high as making

>> sure you get great experience with Microsoft Office and what not.

>> * Does this involve making technical changes: yes. This requires changes

>> from both NVDA itself and the add-ons website.

>> * Is this task difficult: yes and no. No, because client part (NVDA itself)

>> can be modified easily; a bit difficult as NVDA developers and add-on

>> writers must cooperate on getting this right, especially changes required on

>> the server side (add-ons web server).

>> * Will all add-ons out there receive this feature: no. Only add-ons

>> registered on the NVDA Community Add-ons website will have this capability

>> for now.

>> * How many people and how long: at least four or five people (two or three

>> developers, several users to test this), and this feature will take at least

>> six months to implement (a few weeks to design and code, a few weeks to test

>> and validate, and at least three months for add-on authors to adjust to

>> changes).

>> * If I am to work on this, what knowledge do I need to possess: intermediate

>> Python, familiarity with how web request API works, databases, web server

>> administration, good leadership skills, willingness to work with others. In

>> other words, if you think you can just code and submit pull requests and

>> nothing else, or just wish from the sidelines and not have mindset to test

>> this and give proactive feedback, this isn't probably something for you to

>> work on (I am indeed serious, and when I say I am serious, I really mean

>> it).

>> Hope this helps.

>> Cheers,

>> Joseph

>>

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New

>> Zealand

>> Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 9:28 PM

>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Updating add-ons

>>

>> Hi

>>

>>

>> I did read something about auto updating from I think it was Joseph but I

>> can not find it now.

>>

>>

>> it sounds like it will take a bit of time to do.

>>

>>

>> I do not like the update feature in another screen reader I tried out

>> called Window eyes unless I have installed those add ons my self. The

>> idea is a good one, depending how much work it involves.

>>

>>

>> There is a add on called weather plus that I like but it also alerts you

>> of a new add on when it has been updated and when installed it will not

>> remind you any more. it is easy to install that way as well.

>>

>> Not sure how much extra work it would be for the authors of the add ons

>> but it saves me looking when i get that alert. But looking does not hurt

>> any how.

>>

>>

>> could the same idea ben used for other add ons that come off the main

>> website? or do they come from the authors website?

>>

>>

>> I find no problem with going to the website any how to get the add ons

>> they only get installed now and again.

>>

>>

>> If a person goes into the manage add ons section there is a button you

>> can press enter on that takes you to that add on page.

>>

>> That is the main one.

>>

>>

>> Any type of software i use i look around it to see what features there

>> are how to use it etc.

>>

>> I thought it wouldive been the same with nvda.

>>

>>

>> Gene nz

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>> On 9/12/2016 3:40 PM, Robert Kingett wrote:

>>> as of right now you basically have to go to the add ons website and

>>> download new versions manually. there was talk of adding automatic

>>> updates but people think it is too much work to do for people who can

>>> just check for updates on the website anyway. The thread is below if

>>> you want to read it but there is not enough interest it looks like for

>>> people to make this happen.

>>>

>>> https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/3208#issuecomment-260018010

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>> --

>> <b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA

>> tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.

>> http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date

>> with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook

>> by visiting

>> the following link

>> https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216

>> Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader

>> available by visiting the following link

>> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 


Re: Updating add-ons

Brennen Kinch
 

Hi I am having a problem I cannot find the webpages to update some of these add-ons where do I go

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 9, 2016, at 6:39 AM, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

Well I'm happy to test things as I do have machines that can be allowed to fall over and not mess up my life, but as for coding, no, not up though that realistically.
I do feel though as I've said in this thread before that one might well be creating a hackers charter here if one is not very careful indeed.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updating add-ons


Hi,
As one of the investigators regarding add-on updates, the issue now is
cooperation. But before I continue, let me try my best to spell out exactly
what I and other developers are looking at:
* Do we think this is high priority: yes, although not as high as making
sure you get great experience with Microsoft Office and what not.
* Does this involve making technical changes: yes. This requires changes
from both NVDA itself and the add-ons website.
* Is this task difficult: yes and no. No, because client part (NVDA itself)
can be modified easily; a bit difficult as NVDA developers and add-on
writers must cooperate on getting this right, especially changes required on
the server side (add-ons web server).
* Will all add-ons out there receive this feature: no. Only add-ons
registered on the NVDA Community Add-ons website will have this capability
for now.
* How many people and how long: at least four or five people (two or three
developers, several users to test this), and this feature will take at least
six months to implement (a few weeks to design and code, a few weeks to test
and validate, and at least three months for add-on authors to adjust to
changes).
* If I am to work on this, what knowledge do I need to possess: intermediate
Python, familiarity with how web request API works, databases, web server
administration, good leadership skills, willingness to work with others. In
other words, if you think you can just code and submit pull requests and
nothing else, or just wish from the sidelines and not have mindset to test
this and give proactive feedback, this isn't probably something for you to
work on (I am indeed serious, and when I say I am serious, I really mean
it).
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New
Zealand
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 9:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updating add-ons

Hi


I did read something about auto updating from I think it was Joseph but I
can not find it now.


it sounds like it will take a bit of time to do.


I do not like the update feature in another screen reader I tried out
called Window eyes unless I have installed those add ons my self. The
idea is a good one, depending how much work it involves.


There is a add on called weather plus that I like but it also alerts you
of a new add on when it has been updated and when installed it will not
remind you any more. it is easy to install that way as well.

Not sure how much extra work it would be for the authors of the add ons
but it saves me looking when i get that alert. But looking does not hurt
any how.


could the same idea ben used for other add ons that come off the main
website? or do they come from the authors website?


I find no problem with going to the website any how to get the add ons
they only get installed now and again.


If a person goes into the manage add ons section there is a button you
can press enter on that takes you to that add on page.

That is the main one.


Any type of software i use i look around it to see what features there
are how to use it etc.

I thought it wouldive been the same with nvda.


Gene nz




On 9/12/2016 3:40 PM, Robert Kingett wrote:
as of right now you basically have to go to the add ons website and
download new versions manually. there was talk of adding automatic
updates but people think it is too much work to do for people who can
just check for updates on the website anyway. The thread is below if
you want to read it but there is not enough interest it looks like for
people to make this happen.

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/3208#issuecomment-260018010


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Re: whats the best and most accessible player for me?

David Moore
 

Hi all,

NVDA works very well with VLC media player. It will play almost every audio and video format, and it is open software. I love it.

David Moore

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From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 7:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] whats the best and most accessible player for me?

 

If you get winamp from the ninite site, you won't get toolbars. If you get it from another site, you have to uncheck a box so you won't get those toolbars.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar

Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 8:28 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] whats the best and most accessible player for me?

 

winamp installs extra toolbars and adware.

i want to clean program without any adware and spyware also.

with all capability which i need.

does winamp have audio capture?

 

On 12/9/16, Peter Beasley <pjbeasley23@...> wrote:

> Winamp.

> -----Original Message-----

> From: nasrin khaksar

> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 1:42 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] whats the best and most accessible player for me?

> hello every one.

> here you are my cryteria for best player and i am waiting for your guide.

> i need a very simple and accessible player which nvda supports great.

> i need playing files and folders.

> i need repeate, shuffle, audio capture, great quality of voice and

> also changing speed without loss of quality.

> i wished that use vlc media player, but it was not accessible.

> for example: in the settings, nvda announces fonts attributes of the

> options!

> and also says pain pain pain pain many time before saying options and

> menus!

> i could not find its shortcuts and i could not use most of my

> cryterian which i need!

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> in the very authentic narration is:

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> al-islam.org

>

 

 

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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.

holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.

in the very authentic narration is:

imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.

best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org