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Re: about nvda and selection of documents:

Gene
 

I have no objection to using JARTE but if the only thing wanted is to select in this way, Wordpad is already on the machine.  JARTE is an enhanced version of Wordpad, it uses the same basic code.  And neither JARTE nor Wordpad are text editors.  They are word processors.  But you can work with text files in either one. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] about nvda and selection of documents:

Let me join you, please!


I have just checked both Notepad and Ted Notepad. I encounter the same
thing. But, when I select character by character, and word by word, it
is spoken, which means that NVDA is silent only when I press shift plus
down arrow.


Let me ask you to accept my suggestion.


Jarte, being a text editor, works great as far as text selection is
concerned. Find it at:


www.jarte.com


On 12/11/2016 2:30 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
> in normal selection, nvda does not read the document.
> but after selection  and making copy from it, with nvda+c, nvda reads
> the selection which we copy.
>
> On 12/11/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> It has become apparent that your Windows installation may have minor
>> problems.  Have you verified that text is being selected at all?  If you
>> move down in a document with shift down arrow and then use the read
>> clipboard command what do you hear?  The command is NVDA key c.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: nasrin khaksar
>> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 4:22 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] about nvda and selection of documents:
>>
>>
>> yes.
>> after openning files in wordpad and notepad, with shift+down, nvda says
>> nothing.
>>
>> On 12/11/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
>>> My guess is that the views used  are not the same. I'm assuming you mean
>>> when you want to open a file?
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> bglists@...
>>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>> Please address personal email to:-
>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>> in the display name field.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 5:26 PM
>>> Subject: [nvda] about nvda and selection of documents:
>>>
>>>
>>>> hello every one.
>>>> one of my friends uses windows seven with nvda 16.3
>>>> when wantes to select documents in wordpad and notepad, with shift
>>>> down arrow key, nvda says nothing about the document and also its
>>>> selection.
>>>> i mean in this case, nvda does not say anything.
>>>> but the mozilla firefox and selection
>>>>
>>>> works good as normal.
>>>> whats the prublem and whats the solution?--
>>>> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
>>>> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
>>>> in the very authentic narration is:
>>>> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
>>>> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
>>>> al-islam.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
>> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
>> in the very authentic narration is:
>> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
>> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
>> al-islam.org
>>
>>
>>
>





Re: about nvda and selection of documents:

Dejan Ristic
 

Let me join you, please!


I have just checked both Notepad and Ted Notepad. I encounter the same thing. But, when I select character by character, and word by word, it is spoken, which means that NVDA is silent only when I press shift plus down arrow.


Let me ask you to accept my suggestion.


Jarte, being a text editor, works great as far as text selection is concerned. Find it at:


www.jarte.com

On 12/11/2016 2:30 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
in normal selection, nvda does not read the document.
but after selection and making copy from it, with nvda+c, nvda reads
the selection which we copy.

On 12/11/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
It has become apparent that your Windows installation may have minor
problems. Have you verified that text is being selected at all? If you
move down in a document with shift down arrow and then use the read
clipboard command what do you hear? The command is NVDA key c.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 4:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] about nvda and selection of documents:


yes.
after openning files in wordpad and notepad, with shift+down, nvda says
nothing.

On 12/11/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
My guess is that the views used are not the same. I'm assuming you mean
when you want to open a file?

Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 5:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] about nvda and selection of documents:


hello every one.
one of my friends uses windows seven with nvda 16.3
when wantes to select documents in wordpad and notepad, with shift
down arrow key, nvda says nothing about the document and also its
selection.
i mean in this case, nvda does not say anything.
but the mozilla firefox and selection

works good as normal.
whats the prublem and whats the solution?--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org




--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org



Re: about nvda and selection of documents:

Dejan Ristic
 

Try pressing: control plus alt plus N to restart NVDA while a document is open, and then try selecting apiece of text by the key combination of shift plus arrow down.

On 12/11/2016 1:22 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
no.
without starting nvda and document maximize.

On 12/11/16, Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@gmail.com> wrote:
Have you tried restarting NVDA while a document is open? Do you have a
document maximized when selecting a piece of text?


On 12/11/2016 11:22 AM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
yes.
after openning files in wordpad and notepad, with shift+down, nvda says
nothing.

On 12/11/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
My guess is that the views used are not the same. I'm assuming you mean
when you want to open a file?

Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 5:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] about nvda and selection of documents:


hello every one.
one of my friends uses windows seven with nvda 16.3
when wantes to select documents in wordpad and notepad, with shift
down arrow key, nvda says nothing about the document and also its
selection.
i mean in this case, nvda does not say anything.
but the mozilla firefox and selection

works good as normal.
whats the prublem and whats the solution?--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org







Re: how to nagagate the new start menu on windows 10 1607

Louis Maher <ljmaher@...>
 

Brian,

Windows key + e will give you windows explorer, and windows key + x gives you many interesting options. Arrow up twice for the power button options.




Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@swbell.net

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of brian
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 11:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] how to nagagate the new start menu on windows 10 1607

I just upgraded my windows 10 and I can not getto the left side of the start menu that has the file explorer and power button if I tab I get pins view and left arrow does nothing will this problem be corrected in version of nvda 2016.4? Are there any key board commands fornavagating the start menu/?

Brian Sackrider


On 12/11/2016 10:39 AM, Casey wrote:
Hi I am using NVDA.
Now when I used to use window-eyes and inserted A USB thumb drive and
then went under computer and looked threw my drive list.
It would tell me when I got the the drive letter that had the USB
drive connected to it.
How much was used on the drive like 98 percent or 75 percent.
And then when I would copy something to it.
It would tell me how much was need for whatever it was for me to put
on that drive if it was full.
So can you get NVDA to do this if so how?


Re: how to nagagate the new start menu on windows 10 1607

Don H
 

I have Classic Shell installed and can get a start menu that looks more like Windows 7 with a easy option to use the Win 10 start menu if desired.

On 12/11/2016 11:16 AM, brian wrote:
I just upgraded my windows 10 and I can not getto the left side
of the start menu that has the file explorer and power button if I tab I
get pins view and left arrow does nothing will this problem be corrected
in version of nvda 2016.4? Are there any key board commands
fornavagating the start menu/?

Brian Sackrider


On 12/11/2016 10:39 AM, Casey wrote:
Hi I am using NVDA.
Now when I used to use window-eyes and inserted A USB thumb drive and
then went under computer and looked threw my drive list.
It would tell me when I got the the drive letter that had the USB
drive connected to it.
How much was used on the drive like 98 percent or 75 percent.
And then when I would copy something to it.
It would tell me how much was need for whatever it was for me to put
on that drive if it was full.
So can you get NVDA to do this if so how?




how to nagagate the new start menu on windows 10 1607

brian <sackriderbrian45@...>
 

I just upgraded my windows 10 and I can not getto the left side of the start menu that has the file explorer and power button if I tab I get pins view and left arrow does nothing will this problem be corrected in version of nvda 2016.4? Are there any key board commands fornavagating the start menu/?

Brian Sackrider

On 12/11/2016 10:39 AM, Casey wrote:
Hi I am using NVDA.
Now when I used to use window-eyes and inserted A USB thumb drive and then went under computer and looked threw my drive list.
It would tell me when I got the the drive letter that had the USB drive connected to it.
How much was used on the drive like 98 percent or 75 percent.
And then when I would copy something to it.
It would tell me how much was need for whatever it was for me to put on that drive if it was full.
So can you get NVDA to do this if so how?


Re: Backing up a Thunderbird profile, very strange problem

Jacques <lists4js@...>
 

Thanks for that, so we live and learn. :)


Jacques

On 2016/12/11 6:30 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 06:05 pm, Jacques wrote:

A last note, if you are also using the flash drive for porting files
between a Windows based machine and a MAC, NTFS is not an option,
since MAC cannot read NTFS partitions.

Strictly speaking, this is not true. There is now native support for
NTFS (both read and write) in Mac OS that's been there for a while now
but that is disabled by default. There are also third-party tools
available for earlier Mac OS versions that do not have native support
for NTFS. A quick web search on "Mac OS NTFS Support" in the search
engine of your choice will bring up the information you need should you
wish to enable read-write access to NTFS volumes. Read access was
available ahead of write access.
--
*/Brian/*

*/ Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions
from /**/insufficient premises./*

* /~ Samuel Butler, /1835-1902*





Re: Backing up a Thunderbird profile, very strange problem

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Casey,


I back up the address book separately, by using the export feature in the address book itself.

On 12/11/2016 11:14 AM, Casey wrote:
hi if you back up your Thunderbird this way?
Does it also back up your address books as well?
Or do you have to recreate them after you restore from that back up?

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Backing up a Thunderbird profile, very strange problem

 

On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 06:05 pm, Jacques wrote:
A last note, if you are also using the flash drive for porting files between a Windows based machine and a MAC, NTFS is not an option, since MAC cannot read NTFS partitions.

Strictly speaking, this is not true.  There is now native support for NTFS (both read and write) in Mac OS that's been there for a while now but that is disabled by default.  There are also third-party tools available for earlier Mac OS versions that do not have native support for NTFS.   A quick web search on "Mac OS NTFS Support" in the search engine of your choice will bring up the information you need should you wish to enable read-write access to NTFS volumes.  Read access was available ahead of write access.
--
Brian

 Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises.

         ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902

    



Re: Backing up a Thunderbird profile, very strange problem

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

hi if you back up your Thunderbird this way?
Does it also back up your address books as well?
Or do you have to recreate them after you restore from that back up?


--
Casey


Re: Backing up a Thunderbird profile, very strange problem

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,


I have been following this thread for a while without comment. Unless things are radically different in Windows ten--what has always worked for me is the following.


After a certain length of time when I want to back up Thunderbird data in total--not just profiles, I go under the %appdata% folder and highlight the Thunderbird folder. I then copy the folder to a USB/removable disc of some sort and if there is any problem--such as corruption or changing to a new system, I simply reinstall Thunderbird and paste that entire folder into the %appdata% folder where the Thunderbird data exists. I have been doing this since Windows XP through 2 other XP system, 2 Windows 7 Systems and a Windows 8.1 system with perfect results.

On 12/11/2016 10:43 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:
This is kind of interesting but I get this properties lost notice when I send some files to my external USB hard drive which is formatted as NTFS so there must be something else in the mix. However, when I choose to back up the files with properties lost, there doesn't seem to be any difference between the original and the copied files so I just ignore this and tell it to go ahead and copy and lose the properties and there's never been any problem.

Roger










On 12/10/2016 8:04 PM, Jacques wrote:
Hi Guys

The described prompts about stream loss is related to the flash drive formatted as FAT32 rather than NTFS. There will undoubtedly be many arguments for and against formatting a flash drive as NTFS, but I won't go into them here. In some cases, when building a bootable flash drive, it is necessary to format as FAT32. However, if the flash drive is used only for storing files for backup purposes on a Windows based system, re-formatting the flash drive as NTFS will solved the problem Chris described.

A last note, if you are also using the flash drive for porting files between a Windows based machine and a MAC, NTFS is not an option, since MAC cannot read NTFS partitions.

Hope this clears up the confusion.


Jacques

On 2016/12/10 10:25 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
I really don't know what that copy files without their properties
thinghy means but I get it here all the time but only if I copy to a USB
drive of any kind like a flash stick or an external USB drive.
Apparently there are some invisible file properties that just must take
too much bandwidth to pass through the USB interface as I can copy the
same files from one internal disk drive to another without getting these
notices. Anyhow, there's usually a checkbox that asks you to do this
for all subsequent files and if you just check this and then tell it to
go ahead and copy without the properties, it should then just copy
everything without you needing to do anything more.

Hope this helps.

Roger













On 12/10/2016 1:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
This is just totally strange! So... I'm running Windows 10 Home, 64
bit, Thunderbird 45.2.0, and JAWS 18 without the Thunderbird Blind
script from John
Martin. I have them, but don't have them installed, as I don't find
them all that helpful.

Anyway, I have only one profile which contains one e-mail account: my
Gmail, which is of corse set up as IMap, not as Pop3.

Basically, what I'm trying to do is, I'm trying to copy my profile
folder from appdata\roming\thunderbird\profiles over to a flash drive,
so that I have
a backup, in case I ever need it. I get the folder copied with no
problem. Note, I'm not copying the actual profiles folder. I'm copying
the actual profile
folder within the profiles folder with the weird number string. OK,
that works fine, and I get it to my clipboard, no worries. Then, comes
the problem.
I navigate over to my D drive which is my USB flash drive. I then
paste with ctrl+V right there in the root of the USB drive. Things
start copying until
about 89% when I get an interupted action. It asks if I want to copy
the current file as is, without its properties. If I say no, then the
whole paste
process aborts. If I say yes, then it goes into an infinent loop
asking me if I want to do the same thing over and over, and never ever
progresses beyond
that 89%. Yes, I do have admin rights, and yes, I'm logged on as an
administrator, and further, UAC is disabled completely. I know for a
fact that this
isn't an issue of me having a corrupted installation, as I had this
same exact problem with another laptop I used to own, come to think of
it, and I never
could figure out how to get around it. It seems like I finally wound
up using the command line, and copying over the profile with the old
school XCopy
utility, but I don't remember its syntax. Even if I did though, that's
a really! annoying way to have to do this! There's gotta be a reason
this is happening.
I should add that this is not a portable installation of Thunderbird.
I have it actually fully installed to my C drive as a standard
installation.

I wondered if maybe even though I'd hit alt+F4 and closed Thunderbird,
if maybe it was still running in the background as a process or
service, and therefore
wasn't letting certain files copy over, as they were locked in use,
but that's not the case, as I see nothing in task manager that would
indicate such.
Further, I've rebooted, and have tried this before ever even running
Thunderbird, and I still get the problem. I've tried with multiple
different flash
drives, and I've also reformatted the drives. I've formatted them both
as FAT32, as well as NTFS, but in both cases, the issue is persisting.

Honestly folks, I'm out of options. I don't know what on earth is left
to try.

Any ideas? Normally, I'm really good with this kind a thing, but this
has got me really baffled.

Chris.










--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: how to using NVDA have A USB thumb drive tel you how much room is left on it

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Casey,


If you highlight the USB drive at the drive level--where the C drive and any other discs are shown, if the Computer Window is maximized, NVDA will read the total used and free space. Lacking that, if you highlight the USB drive at the drive level and right click and choose properties, NVDA will read a much more detailed list of properties including used, free and total space.

On 12/11/2016 10:39 AM, Casey wrote:
Hi I am using NVDA.
Now when I used to use window-eyes and inserted A USB thumb drive and then went under computer and looked threw my drive list.
It would tell me when I got the the drive letter that had the USB drive connected to it.
How much was used on the drive like 98 percent or 75 percent.
And then when I would copy something to it.
It would tell me how much was need for whatever it was for me to put on that drive if it was full.
So can you get NVDA to do this if so how?

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Backing up a Thunderbird profile, very strange problem

Roger Stewart
 

This is kind of interesting but I get this properties lost notice when I send some files to my external USB hard drive which is formatted as NTFS so there must be something else in the mix. However, when I choose to back up the files with properties lost, there doesn't seem to be any difference between the original and the copied files so I just ignore this and tell it to go ahead and copy and lose the properties and there's never been any problem.

Roger

On 12/10/2016 8:04 PM, Jacques wrote:
Hi Guys

The described prompts about stream loss is related to the flash drive formatted as FAT32 rather than NTFS. There will undoubtedly be many arguments for and against formatting a flash drive as NTFS, but I won't go into them here. In some cases, when building a bootable flash drive, it is necessary to format as FAT32. However, if the flash drive is used only for storing files for backup purposes on a Windows based system, re-formatting the flash drive as NTFS will solved the problem Chris described.

A last note, if you are also using the flash drive for porting files between a Windows based machine and a MAC, NTFS is not an option, since MAC cannot read NTFS partitions.

Hope this clears up the confusion.


Jacques

On 2016/12/10 10:25 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
I really don't know what that copy files without their properties
thinghy means but I get it here all the time but only if I copy to a USB
drive of any kind like a flash stick or an external USB drive.
Apparently there are some invisible file properties that just must take
too much bandwidth to pass through the USB interface as I can copy the
same files from one internal disk drive to another without getting these
notices. Anyhow, there's usually a checkbox that asks you to do this
for all subsequent files and if you just check this and then tell it to
go ahead and copy without the properties, it should then just copy
everything without you needing to do anything more.

Hope this helps.

Roger













On 12/10/2016 1:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
This is just totally strange! So... I'm running Windows 10 Home, 64
bit, Thunderbird 45.2.0, and JAWS 18 without the Thunderbird Blind
script from John
Martin. I have them, but don't have them installed, as I don't find
them all that helpful.

Anyway, I have only one profile which contains one e-mail account: my
Gmail, which is of corse set up as IMap, not as Pop3.

Basically, what I'm trying to do is, I'm trying to copy my profile
folder from appdata\roming\thunderbird\profiles over to a flash drive,
so that I have
a backup, in case I ever need it. I get the folder copied with no
problem. Note, I'm not copying the actual profiles folder. I'm copying
the actual profile
folder within the profiles folder with the weird number string. OK,
that works fine, and I get it to my clipboard, no worries. Then, comes
the problem.
I navigate over to my D drive which is my USB flash drive. I then
paste with ctrl+V right there in the root of the USB drive. Things
start copying until
about 89% when I get an interupted action. It asks if I want to copy
the current file as is, without its properties. If I say no, then the
whole paste
process aborts. If I say yes, then it goes into an infinent loop
asking me if I want to do the same thing over and over, and never ever
progresses beyond
that 89%. Yes, I do have admin rights, and yes, I'm logged on as an
administrator, and further, UAC is disabled completely. I know for a
fact that this
isn't an issue of me having a corrupted installation, as I had this
same exact problem with another laptop I used to own, come to think of
it, and I never
could figure out how to get around it. It seems like I finally wound
up using the command line, and copying over the profile with the old
school XCopy
utility, but I don't remember its syntax. Even if I did though, that's
a really! annoying way to have to do this! There's gotta be a reason
this is happening.
I should add that this is not a portable installation of Thunderbird.
I have it actually fully installed to my C drive as a standard
installation.

I wondered if maybe even though I'd hit alt+F4 and closed Thunderbird,
if maybe it was still running in the background as a process or
service, and therefore
wasn't letting certain files copy over, as they were locked in use,
but that's not the case, as I see nothing in task manager that would
indicate such.
Further, I've rebooted, and have tried this before ever even running
Thunderbird, and I still get the problem. I've tried with multiple
different flash
drives, and I've also reformatted the drives. I've formatted them both
as FAT32, as well as NTFS, but in both cases, the issue is persisting.

Honestly folks, I'm out of options. I don't know what on earth is left
to try.

Any ideas? Normally, I'm really good with this kind a thing, but this
has got me really baffled.

Chris.








how to using NVDA have A USB thumb drive tel you how much room is left on it

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

Hi I am using NVDA.
Now when I used to use window-eyes and inserted A USB thumb drive and then went under computer and looked threw my drive list.
It would tell me when I got the the drive letter that had the USB drive connected to it.
How much was used on the drive like 98 percent or 75 percent.
And then when I would copy something to it.
It would tell me how much was need for whatever it was for me to put on that drive if it was full.
So can you get NVDA to do this if so how?


--
Casey


Problems with sertain HTML messages in indows 10 mail app.

matthew dyer
 

Hello,

 

This morning I was trying to read the kim kamando daylly news email and found that nvda 2016.4 rc kep crashing and I had to restart nvda to get it to read and I ended uop having to copy the message o word pad in order to read it.  Any one elase had this problem with these types of messages? 

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Backing up a Thunderbird profile, very strange problem

Life My Way
 

How do you change this setting in windows 7?

On 12/11/2016 4:40 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
This used to be in the msconfig.exe file or the route to it was.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Backing up a Thunderbird profile, very strange problem


*To Turn Off Fast Startup in Windows 8 or Windows 10*

1. Open Control Panel,

2. Open Power Options,

3. Activate "Choose what the power button does" link,

4. Activate "Change settings that are currently unavailable" link,

5. Uncheck checkbox for "Turn on Fast Startup (Recommended)"

6. Hit the Save Changes button.

--
*Brian*

* Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from * *insufficient premises.*

* ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902*




Re: about nvda and selection of documents:

Gene
 

Now we know that the problem is just in what NVDA announces and that selection is taking place.  But I have no solution and would recommend opening text documents where you want to select in Wordpad. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] about nvda and selection of documents:

in normal selection, nvda does not read the document.
but after selection  and making copy from it, with nvda+c, nvda reads
the selection which we copy.

On 12/11/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> It has become apparent that your Windows installation may have minor
> problems.  Have you verified that text is being selected at all?  If you
> move down in a document with shift down arrow and then use the read
> clipboard command what do you hear?  The command is NVDA key c.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: nasrin khaksar
> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 4:22 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] about nvda and selection of documents:
>
>
> yes.
> after openning files in wordpad and notepad, with shift+down, nvda says
> nothing.
>
> On 12/11/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
>> My guess is that the views used  are not the same. I'm assuming you mean
>> when you want to open a file?
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> bglists@...
>> Sent via blueyonder.
>> Please address personal email to:-
>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>> in the display name field.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 5:26 PM
>> Subject: [nvda] about nvda and selection of documents:
>>
>>
>>> hello every one.
>>> one of my friends uses windows seven with nvda 16.3
>>> when wantes to select documents in wordpad and notepad, with shift
>>> down arrow key, nvda says nothing about the document and also its
>>> selection.
>>> i mean in this case, nvda does not say anything.
>>> but the mozilla firefox and selection
>>>
>>> works good as normal.
>>> whats the prublem and whats the solution?--
>>> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
>>> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
>>> in the very authentic narration is:
>>> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
>>> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
>>> al-islam.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
> in the very authentic narration is:
> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> al-islam.org
>
>
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org



Re: about nvda and selection of documents:

 

in normal selection, nvda does not read the document.
but after selection and making copy from it, with nvda+c, nvda reads
the selection which we copy.

On 12/11/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
It has become apparent that your Windows installation may have minor
problems. Have you verified that text is being selected at all? If you
move down in a document with shift down arrow and then use the read
clipboard command what do you hear? The command is NVDA key c.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 4:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] about nvda and selection of documents:


yes.
after openning files in wordpad and notepad, with shift+down, nvda says
nothing.

On 12/11/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
My guess is that the views used are not the same. I'm assuming you mean
when you want to open a file?

Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 5:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] about nvda and selection of documents:


hello every one.
one of my friends uses windows seven with nvda 16.3
when wantes to select documents in wordpad and notepad, with shift
down arrow key, nvda says nothing about the document and also its
selection.
i mean in this case, nvda does not say anything.
but the mozilla firefox and selection

works good as normal.
whats the prublem and whats the solution?--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org






--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: about nvda and selection of documents:

Gene
 

Then it isn't with Wordpad? You originally said it was with both. That makes me suspect that something is wrong with how Windows is working with notepad or with notepad itself.   
 
I need to add more information to my last message.  After you try to select text with shift down arrow, you nee to copy it to the clipboard, control c, before trying the read clipboard command I gave. 
 
If Notepad isn't selecting text but Wordpad is, you may want to open text files in Wordpad where you want to select in this way.  Also, you haven't said anything about what happens when you select in other ways.  What happens if you use shift and right arrow to move and select by character? 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] about nvda and selection of documents:

the problem is only with windows notepad and .txt document.

On 12/11/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
> no.
> without starting nvda and document maximize.
>
> On 12/11/16, Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@...> wrote:
>> Have you tried restarting NVDA while a document is open? Do you have a
>> document maximized when selecting a piece of text?
>>
>>
>> On 12/11/2016 11:22 AM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
>>> yes.
>>> after openning files in wordpad and notepad, with shift+down, nvda says
>>> nothing.
>>>
>>> On 12/11/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
>>>> My guess is that the views used  are not the same. I'm assuming you
>>>> mean
>>>> when you want to open a file?
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> bglists@...
>>>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>>> Please address personal email to:-
>>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>>> in the display name field.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
>>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 5:26 PM
>>>> Subject: [nvda] about nvda and selection of documents:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> hello every one.
>>>>> one of my friends uses windows seven with nvda 16.3
>>>>> when wantes to select documents in wordpad and notepad, with shift
>>>>> down arrow key, nvda says nothing about the document and also its
>>>>> selection.
>>>>> i mean in this case, nvda does not say anything.
>>>>> but the mozilla firefox and selection
>>>>>
>>>>> works good as normal.
>>>>> whats the prublem and whats the solution?--
>>>>> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
>>>>> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
>>>>> in the very authentic narration is:
>>>>> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
>>>>> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
>>>>> al-islam.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
> in the very authentic narration is:
> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> al-islam.org
>
>
>
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org



Re: about nvda and selection of documents:

Gene
 

It has become apparent that your Windows installation may have minor problems.  Have you verified that text is being selected at all?  If you move down in a document with shift down arrow and then use the read clipboard command what do you hear?  The command is NVDA key c. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 4:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] about nvda and selection of documents:

yes.
after openning files in wordpad and notepad, with shift+down, nvda says nothing.

On 12/11/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
> My guess is that the views used  are not the same. I'm assuming you mean
> when you want to open a file?
>
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal email to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 5:26 PM
> Subject: [nvda] about nvda and selection of documents:
>
>
>> hello every one.
>> one of my friends uses windows seven with nvda 16.3
>> when wantes to select documents in wordpad and notepad, with shift
>> down arrow key, nvda says nothing about the document and also its
>> selection.
>> i mean in this case, nvda does not say anything.
>> but the mozilla firefox and selection
>>
>> works good as normal.
>> whats the prublem and whats the solution?--
>> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
>> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
>> in the very authentic narration is:
>> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
>> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
>> al-islam.org
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org