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Re: NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility
virit?
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is it freeware or commercial?
On 12/15/16, Nevzat Adil <nevzatadil@...> wrote:
I use Windows Defender and it is reasonably accessible, but, I, too, --
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility
I use Windows Defender and it is reasonably accessible, but, I, too,
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experience silent moments with NVDA and lack of focus which I press alt+tab to refocus. I experience the same with JAWS, as well. So I figure it's not an NVDA issue, but something to do with the system. Nevzat
On 12/15/16, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
I wonder if the problem is having two antivirus programs running at the
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Re: NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility
Nimer Jaber
I recommend Sophos home, but others have had success with some others. Search the list archives for virus programs, and you will find others and the whole discussion on this topic. Thanks.
On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 7:45 AM Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote: I wonder if the problem is having two antivirus programs running at the
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Re: NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility
Don H
I wonder if the problem is having two antivirus programs running at the same time.
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On 12/15/2016 4:01 AM, Gene wrote:
Clamwin is not a highly rated program.
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Re: Google Docs with Nvda
chris miles
On 14-Dec-16 3:48 PM, Jorge Gonçalves
wrote:
Hi all, Hi,
CONTROL PLUS ALT PLUS N is the hot key to
start NVDA. Perhaps if you press the NVDA - insert key - and
F2 pass next key through and tthen enter CTRL plus ALT plus N
followed by H then NVDA might go to the next heading.
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Re: NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility
Adriano Barbieri
Hi,
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I have Vindows XP but should also run on windows 10. Have you tried Virit? http://www.tgsoft.it/tgsoft_home.asp It is not heavy and I do run spybot, and both are very good. the link for Spybot search and destroy: https://www.safer-networking.org/ Cheers Adriano
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From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility any security program which i tested causeslowness and hangs in using
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Re: Vocalizer expressive for Nuance
Mallard <mallard@...>
Hello,
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Interesting, but why should we buy sapi5 when, if we wait a little longer, we can have a free upgrade from Tiflotecnia? Any valid reason to go this way? I'll wait anyway. More because I know how serious and professional Rui is, than for the free upgrade in itself. I trust Tiflotecnia. if they say the product is not ready to be reliably released, I believe them. Ciao, Ollie
Il 14/12/2016 20:47, Gene New Zealand ha scritto:
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A word of warning about xp and windoows update enabled systems with old amd processors
Brian's Mail list account
I noticed yesterday on an old XP Athlon machine, the chip with no sse 2, that after a latest xp security update which is enabled on that machine, the processor usage was 99 percent. trying this on a second machine running a sempron resulted in the same issue, but not on the old Pentium Intel chipped machines.
The thing is it seems to have altered the way the software looks for and downloads windows updates, so to stop this problem you need to turn off automatic updates. This can be quite a challenge with about 1 percent processor still working when nvda tends to need 143 percent, but after doing this and rebooting all is sweetness and light again. I only put this on here as I know a lot of folk in some of the poorer countries out there still use xp machines with the get updates hack on them, and wanted to help. I'll shut up about it now, as in fact its off topic. I imagine Microsoft never bother to test it on this processor as so many companies now do not support it, like dropbox or firefox to name but two. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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Re: NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility
any security program which i tested causeslowness and hangs in using
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nvda for me.
On 12/15/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Clamwin is not a highly rated program. --
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: Deleted file recovery software
gene.
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thanks extremely for your great informations. and how about windows xp? is it realy possible to use this feature on xp?
On 12/15/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
You are correct about Vista not making Shadow Copy available to home users --
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: Deleted file recovery software
Gene
You are correct about Vista not making Shadow Copy
available to home users except by using a third party utility. This makes
no sense but that's how it is. But Windows 7 has no such restrictions and
all versions allow the user to recover files working directly with the old
versions interface.
From Wikipedia:
The "Previous Versions" feature is available in the
Business, Enterprise, and Ultimate editions of Windows Vista[15] and in all
Windows 7 editions. The Home Editions of Vista lack the "Previous Versions"
feature, even though the Volume Snapshot Service is included and running. Using
third-party tools it is still possible to restore previous versions of files on
the local volume.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_Copy Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 2:48 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software I don't know who says you need a third party
utility to see the old files. That is not true. it may be easier to
use the utility to get access but I can open the old version of any folder and
see all the files. I'd have to review the interface to see just how this
is done, but I was able to copy a file to the current folder. That is in
Windows 7 home. It would be completely illogical for Microsoft to have
Shadow Copy and make it inaccessible to users of this or that version of
Windows.
If a statement is made by someone, a program
designer, or just someone discussing something, it should be treated
skeptically.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software download recuva its very accessible and has wizart to teach you how to use it. also you can try shadow explorer which works with windows vista and later. www.piriform.com/recuva www.shadowexplorer.com/ From time to time, Windows Vista / 7 / 8 creates point-in-time copies of your files. This allows you to retrieve older versions from files you accidentally deleted or altered. This service is turned on by default on all versions of Windows Vista/7, but Microsoft grants access to these copies only in Ultimate, Business, and Enterprise editions. This is where ShadowExplorer comes into play. ShadowExplorer Since the Volume Shadow Copy Service is included, and turned on by default, in all editions of Windows Vista / 7 / 8, why not take advantage of it? All it takes is an additional tool like ShadowExplorer, that can access the shadow storage and make the point-in-time copies accessible to the user. Features •Show available point-in-time copies •Browse through Shadow Copies •Retrieve versions of files and folders Limitations Shadow Copies and ShadowExplorer are in no way a replacement for regular backups! This is very important and can't be stressed enough. A Shadow Copy is kept on the same disc as the original data. In case of a disc failure all data is lost, including the Shadow Copies. ShadowExplorer is a good addition to regular backups, but not a replacement. - On 12/15/16, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote: > Thanks for the info re Piriform Recuva. It’s a friend of mine who’s > accidentally deleted some files. I’ve downloaded the portable version for > her and also loaded the desktop version on my own machine. I’ve had a quick > look at the interface and initial impressions re accessibility are very > favourable. I’ll report back when she has tried the recovery. > > > > Cheers > > Chris > > > > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Felix > G. > Sent: 14 December 2016 21:41 > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software > > > > Hello, > > Recuva was accessible at the time I used it some years ago. > > Any write operation now has the potential to clobber that file, so you > better download the portable version to a thumb drive using another machine > then run it. > > Kind regards, > > Felix Grützmacher > > > > Gene <gsasner@...> schrieb am Mi., 14. Dez. 2016 um 19:55 Uhr: > > I don't know how well Recuva works for most people. I have had little > success with it though there's no harm in trying. > > > > However, if the files were on your machine at the time a restore point was > made, if you are using the default settings, the files will be retained by > shadow copy. I won't go into how to find them in this message because I > don't know how long they were on the drive nor do I know if you have System > Restore active. I also don't know if the procedure is the same as mine since > I don't know what version of Windows you are using. > > > > Gene > > > > From: Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 12:32 PM > > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > > Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software > > > > Chris, > > I can't swear to accessibility on this particular program, but others > by the same maker (e.g. CCleaner) are. Have a look at Piriform.com and > their Recuva utility. It's free and you've got nothing to lose but a few > minutes time by trying it. In the case of deleted files that bypassed the > Recycle Bin or have been emptied from it, the sooner you try to recover them > the better. > > > -- > Brian > > Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient > premises. > > ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902 > > > > > > > > -- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: Deleted file recovery software
Gene
Previous versions is a way to see the copies of
files kept by Shadow copy. I don't know how the means of seeing previous
versions may differ from one version of Windows to another. In Windows 7,
I either found it by right clicking a folder containing a file and looking for
an item named previous versions, or I found it by opening the properties of the
folder. I'm not sure now but I believe it is found by right clicking and
looking through the context menu.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 3:56 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software i copied the informations from the owner of the softwares. i became very sad to read shadow explorer supports only ultimate, proffessional and enterprize users of windows, not home users. whats the different between windows previous versions and shadow copies? On 12/15/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: > I don't know who says you need a third party utility to see the old files. > That is not true. it may be easier to use the utility to get access but I > can open the old version of any folder and see all the files. I'd have to > review the interface to see just how this is done, but I was able to copy a > file to the current folder. That is in Windows 7 home. It would be > completely illogical for Microsoft to have Shadow Copy and make it > inaccessible to users of this or that version of Windows. > > If a statement is made by someone, a program designer, or just someone > discussing something, it should be treated skeptically. > > Gene > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: nasrin khaksar > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 9:26 PM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software > > > hi. > download recuva > its very accessible and has wizart to teach you how to use it. > also you can try shadow explorer which works with windows vista and later. > www.piriform.com/recuva > www.shadowexplorer.com/ > From time to time, Windows Vista / 7 / 8 creates point-in-time copies > of your files. This allows you to retrieve older versions from files > you accidentally deleted or altered. This service is turned on by > default on all versions of Windows Vista/7, but Microsoft grants > access to these copies only in Ultimate, Business, and Enterprise > editions. This is where ShadowExplorer comes into play. > > ShadowExplorer > Since the Volume Shadow Copy Service is included, and turned on by > default, in all editions of Windows Vista / 7 / 8, why not take > advantage of it? All it takes is an additional tool like > ShadowExplorer, that can access the shadow storage and make the > point-in-time copies accessible to the user. > Features > •Show available point-in-time copies > •Browse through Shadow Copies > •Retrieve versions of files and folders > Limitations > Shadow Copies and ShadowExplorer are in no way a replacement for > regular backups! This is very important and can't be stressed enough. > A Shadow Copy is kept on the same disc as the original data. In case > of a disc failure all data is lost, including the Shadow Copies. > ShadowExplorer is a good addition to regular backups, but not a > replacement. > > - > > On 12/15/16, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote: >> Thanks for the info re Piriform Recuva. It’s a friend of mine who’s >> accidentally deleted some files. I’ve downloaded the portable version >> for >> her and also loaded the desktop version on my own machine. I’ve had a >> quick >> look at the interface and initial impressions re accessibility are very >> favourable. I’ll report back when she has tried the recovery. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Chris >> >> >> >> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Felix >> G. >> Sent: 14 December 2016 21:41 >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >> Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software >> >> >> >> Hello, >> >> Recuva was accessible at the time I used it some years ago. >> >> Any write operation now has the potential to clobber that file, so you >> better download the portable version to a thumb drive using another >> machine >> then run it. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Felix Grützmacher >> >> >> >> Gene <gsasner@...> schrieb am Mi., 14. Dez. 2016 um 19:55 Uhr: >> >> I don't know how well Recuva works for most people. I have had little >> success with it though there's no harm in trying. >> >> >> >> However, if the files were on your machine at the time a restore point >> was >> made, if you are using the default settings, the files will be retained >> by >> shadow copy. I won't go into how to find them in this message because I >> don't know how long they were on the drive nor do I know if you have >> System >> Restore active. I also don't know if the procedure is the same as mine >> since >> I don't know what version of Windows you are using. >> >> >> >> Gene >> >> >> >> From: Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 12:32 PM >> >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >> >> Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software >> >> >> >> Chris, >> >> I can't swear to accessibility on this particular program, but >> others >> by the same maker (e.g. CCleaner) are. Have a look at Piriform.com and >> their Recuva utility. It's free and you've got nothing to lose but a few >> minutes time by trying it. In the case of deleted files that bypassed >> the >> Recycle Bin or have been emptied from it, the sooner you try to recover >> them >> the better. >> >> >> -- >> Brian >> >> Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient >> premises. >> >> ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. > holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. > in the very authentic narration is: > imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. > best website for studying islamic book in different languages > al-islam.org > > > > -- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility
Gene
Clamwin is not a highly rated program.
the problem described of slow performance with one
antimalware program after another is not generally experienced by NVDA
users. I don't know what is causing the problem but it is not a general
NVDA problem. Perhaps someone with more technical knowledge will be able
to help further.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 3:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA And Antivirus
Incompatibility i know only clamwin which is accessible with nvda and i did not test other programs. On 12/15/16, Ibrahim Ajayi <kobisko@...> wrote: > Hi good people: > I've come to realize that the NVDA screenreader our wonderful > software, is not compatible with antivirus software. I've tried > several antivirus software on my system, and they appear incompatible > with NVDA. They make browsing extremely slow, and oftentimes, shut > down the screen reader. Sometimes I am taken off the site totally. > I've tried the avast antivirus software, marobite, microsoft essential > and avero. All are the same. > Is there a solution to this problem? I don't have this experience when > I use the demo version of JAWS for windows. > In order to use NVDA conveniently, I've had to remove the antivirus > software I have on my system, and after browsing, reinstall it, and > this can expose my system to attacks. > Looking forward to reading from you chaps again. > Thanks and cheers. > From Ibrahim in Nigeria. > > > > -- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: Deleted file recovery software
hi gene.
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i copied the informations from the owner of the softwares. i became very sad to read shadow explorer supports only ultimate, proffessional and enterprize users of windows, not home users. whats the different between windows previous versions and shadow copies?
On 12/15/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I don't know who says you need a third party utility to see the old files. --
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: how to read arabic superscripts
hello.
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in which program do you mean? you can read diacrritics in arabic for many programs by left and right arrow keys like letters. i mean that you can use microsoft office word, wordpad, notepad++, firefox and internet explorer both letters and diacritics by left and right arrow keys. but unfortunately, using windows notepad, libreoffice and openoffice, you cant read diacritics by left and right arrow keys and only letters are accessible.
On 12/15/16, Ben J. Bloomgren <bbloomgren@...> wrote:
Are you referring to the vowels and the other diacritics? I don't know those --
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility
hi.
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i know only clamwin which is accessible with nvda and i did not test other programs.
On 12/15/16, Ibrahim Ajayi <kobisko@...> wrote:
Hi good people: --
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Weather Plus update
Adriano Barbieri
Hi there,
Version 4.2 15.12.2016 * Fixed bug in the translation of the scale
measurement;
In some languages, Kelvin, Celsius and Fahrenheit
have not been translated.
Weather Plus it can auto-update, but you can also
download it from:
direct download::
or:
Cheers
Adriano Barbieri
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Re: how to read arabic superscripts
Are you referring to the vowels and the other diacritics? I don't know those as superscripts, but I'm wondering if that's what you mean. Are you using a braille display?
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On Dec 14, 2016, at 22:29, Umair Ijaz <umairthescholar@...> wrote:
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how to read arabic superscripts
Umair Ijaz <umairthescholar@...>
Dear listers,
I would like to know whether there is any way to read superscript in arabic text? the superscript which tell us how to read the word. fatah, nasub , jur, or zair zabar, paish are the technical names of those superscripts. I am reading Holy Quran and I am not an arabic native so i want to occasionally know the superscripts on the words. the sighted can see them in the text but there is no way for me to read it. kindly tell me how may i read them. i have enabled all punctuation but it is not reading. is there any special command for that? waiting anxiously. thanks. -- www.umairijaz.com "A Person who won't read has no advantage over who can't read"
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Re: Deleted file recovery software
Gene
I don't know who says you need a third party
utility to see the old files. That is not true. it may be easier to
use the utility to get access but I can open the old version of any folder and
see all the files. I'd have to review the interface to see just how this
is done, but I was able to copy a file to the current folder. That is in
Windows 7 home. It would be completely illogical for Microsoft to have
Shadow Copy and make it inaccessible to users of this or that version of
Windows.
If a statement is made by someone, a program
designer, or just someone discussing something, it should be treated
skeptically.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software download recuva its very accessible and has wizart to teach you how to use it. also you can try shadow explorer which works with windows vista and later. www.piriform.com/recuva www.shadowexplorer.com/ From time to time, Windows Vista / 7 / 8 creates point-in-time copies of your files. This allows you to retrieve older versions from files you accidentally deleted or altered. This service is turned on by default on all versions of Windows Vista/7, but Microsoft grants access to these copies only in Ultimate, Business, and Enterprise editions. This is where ShadowExplorer comes into play. ShadowExplorer Since the Volume Shadow Copy Service is included, and turned on by default, in all editions of Windows Vista / 7 / 8, why not take advantage of it? All it takes is an additional tool like ShadowExplorer, that can access the shadow storage and make the point-in-time copies accessible to the user. Features •Show available point-in-time copies •Browse through Shadow Copies •Retrieve versions of files and folders Limitations Shadow Copies and ShadowExplorer are in no way a replacement for regular backups! This is very important and can't be stressed enough. A Shadow Copy is kept on the same disc as the original data. In case of a disc failure all data is lost, including the Shadow Copies. ShadowExplorer is a good addition to regular backups, but not a replacement. - On 12/15/16, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote: > Thanks for the info re Piriform Recuva. It’s a friend of mine who’s > accidentally deleted some files. I’ve downloaded the portable version for > her and also loaded the desktop version on my own machine. I’ve had a quick > look at the interface and initial impressions re accessibility are very > favourable. I’ll report back when she has tried the recovery. > > > > Cheers > > Chris > > > > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Felix > G. > Sent: 14 December 2016 21:41 > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software > > > > Hello, > > Recuva was accessible at the time I used it some years ago. > > Any write operation now has the potential to clobber that file, so you > better download the portable version to a thumb drive using another machine > then run it. > > Kind regards, > > Felix Grützmacher > > > > Gene <gsasner@...> schrieb am Mi., 14. Dez. 2016 um 19:55 Uhr: > > I don't know how well Recuva works for most people. I have had little > success with it though there's no harm in trying. > > > > However, if the files were on your machine at the time a restore point was > made, if you are using the default settings, the files will be retained by > shadow copy. I won't go into how to find them in this message because I > don't know how long they were on the drive nor do I know if you have System > Restore active. I also don't know if the procedure is the same as mine since > I don't know what version of Windows you are using. > > > > Gene > > > > From: Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 12:32 PM > > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > > Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software > > > > Chris, > > I can't swear to accessibility on this particular program, but others > by the same maker (e.g. CCleaner) are. Have a look at Piriform.com and > their Recuva utility. It's free and you've got nothing to lose but a few > minutes time by trying it. In the case of deleted files that bypassed the > Recycle Bin or have been emptied from it, the sooner you try to recover them > the better. > > > -- > Brian > > Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient > premises. > > ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902 > > > > > > > > -- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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