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Re: NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility

Don H
 

I wonder if the problem is having two antivirus programs running at the same time.

On 12/15/2016 4:01 AM, Gene wrote:
Clamwin is not a highly rated program.

the problem described of slow performance with one antimalware program
after another is not generally experienced by NVDA users. I don't know
what is causing the problem but it is not a general NVDA problem.
Perhaps someone with more technical knowledge will be able to help further.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* nasrin khaksar <mailto:nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, December 15, 2016 3:46 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility

hi.
i know only clamwin which is accessible with nvda and i did not test
other programs.

On 12/15/16, Ibrahim Ajayi <kobisko@gmail.com
<mailto:kobisko@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi good people:
I've come to realize that the NVDA screenreader our wonderful
software, is not compatible with antivirus software. I've tried
several antivirus software on my system, and they appear incompatible
with NVDA. They make browsing extremely slow, and oftentimes, shut
down the screen reader. Sometimes I am taken off the site totally.
I've tried the avast antivirus software, marobite, microsoft essential
and avero. All are the same.
Is there a solution to this problem? I don't have this experience when
I use the demo version of JAWS for windows.
In order to use NVDA conveniently, I've had to remove the antivirus
software I have on my system, and after browsing, reinstall it, and
this can expose my system to attacks.
Looking forward to reading from you chaps again.
Thanks and cheers.
From Ibrahim in Nigeria.




--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org




Re: Google Docs with Nvda

chris miles
 

On 14-Dec-16 3:48 PM, Jorge Gonçalves wrote:
Hi all,

I have to start using Google Docs for some group works in my university.
I was reading through the help section for screenreader users specially Nvda. So far it looks great.
But I have a problem. It says that if I want to move to the next heading, I should do Control+Alt+N and then H but it doesn't work for me.
I do it but it doesn't work. It simply writes an H.
Does anyone uses Nvda and google Docs and have some suggestions'
Thank you,
Jorge





Hi,


CONTROL PLUS ALT PLUS N is the hot key to start NVDA. Perhaps if you press the NVDA - insert key - and F2 pass next key through and tthen enter CTRL plus ALT plus N followed by H then NVDA might go to the next heading.


Re: NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility

Adriano Barbieri
 

Hi,
I have Vindows XP but should also run on windows 10.
Have you tried Virit?
http://www.tgsoft.it/tgsoft_home.asp
It is not heavy and I do run spybot, and both are very good.
the link for Spybot search and destroy:
https://www.safer-networking.org/

Cheers
Adriano

----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility


any security program which i tested causeslowness and hangs in using
nvda for me.

On 12/15/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
Clamwin is not a highly rated program.

the problem described of slow performance with one antimalware program after
another is not generally experienced by NVDA users. I don't know what is
causing the problem but it is not a general NVDA problem. Perhaps someone
with more technical knowledge will be able to help further.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 3:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility


hi.
i know only clamwin which is accessible with nvda and i did not test
other programs.

On 12/15/16, Ibrahim Ajayi <kobisko@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi good people:
I've come to realize that the NVDA screenreader our wonderful
software, is not compatible with antivirus software. I've tried
several antivirus software on my system, and they appear incompatible
with NVDA. They make browsing extremely slow, and oftentimes, shut
down the screen reader. Sometimes I am taken off the site totally.
I've tried the avast antivirus software, marobite, microsoft essential
and avero. All are the same.
Is there a solution to this problem? I don't have this experience when
I use the demo version of JAWS for windows.
In order to use NVDA conveniently, I've had to remove the antivirus
software I have on my system, and after browsing, reinstall it, and
this can expose my system to attacks.
Looking forward to reading from you chaps again.
Thanks and cheers.
From Ibrahim in Nigeria.




--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org




--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: Vocalizer expressive for Nuance

Mallard <mallard@...>
 

Hello,

Interesting, but why should we buy sapi5 when, if we wait a little longer, we can have a free upgrade from Tiflotecnia?

Any valid reason to go this way?


I'll wait anyway. More because I know how serious and professional Rui is, than for the free upgrade in itself. I trust Tiflotecnia. if they say the product is not ready to be reliably released, I believe them.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 14/12/2016 20:47, Gene New Zealand ha scritto:

Hi


the following web page from off my web site should point you in the right direction. it can be found at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/how%20to%20install%20additional%20nvda%20components.html

You can jump down by headings to where the speech hub package one is and just under neath that is where you can get the sapi 5 version of eloquence and vocaliser voices etc


hope that helps


gene nz



On 15/12/2016 8:14 AM, Matt Turner wrote:
The only ones I've seen on that cite, is the NVDA addon, and the codefactory one.
Of course, i could be wrong.
On 12/14/2016 2:00 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote:
atguys.com <http://atguys.com> I believe has it.

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 11:35 AM Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@gmail.com <mailto:clgilland07@gmail.com>> wrote:

Wow, there's a sapi version? Now, that's something that I didn't
know. Where would one obtain the 64 bit Sapi 5 version?
Chris.

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Nimer Jaber <mailto:nimerjaber1@gmail.com>
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 14, 2016 10:53 AM
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Vocalizer expressive for Nuance

Hello,

This product remains outdated, and we have seen many
promises of updates to come. I would recommend you use the
sapi version instead, as it is more updated. Maybe this
other one will be updated and prove me wrong.

Thanks.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 1:50 PM Rui Fontes
<rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com
<mailto:rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>> wrote:

Hello!

We hope to release it still this year...

It will be noticed in this list...

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Chris Shook
Data: 13 de dezembro de 2016 16:43
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Assunto: [nvda] Vocalizer expressive for Nuance

Rui Fontes,
I was curious if you guys had updated your Vocalizer
synthesizer yet.
If so, can you post the link?
Thanks
Chris





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A word of warning about xp and windoows update enabled systems with old amd processors

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I noticed yesterday on an old XP Athlon machine, the chip with no sse 2, that after a latest xp security update which is enabled on that machine, the processor usage was 99 percent. trying this on a second machine running a sempron resulted in the same issue, but not on the old Pentium Intel chipped machines.
The thing is it seems to have altered the way the software looks for and downloads windows updates, so to stop this problem you need to turn off automatic updates. This can be quite a challenge with about 1 percent processor still working when nvda tends to need 143 percent, but after doing this and rebooting all is sweetness and light again. I only put this on here as I know a lot of folk in some of the poorer countries out there still use xp machines with the get updates hack on them, and wanted to help.
I'll shut up about it now, as in fact its off topic.
I imagine Microsoft never bother to test it on this processor as so many companies now do not support it, like dropbox or firefox to name but two.


Brian

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Re: NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility

 

any security program which i tested causeslowness and hangs in using
nvda for me.

On 12/15/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
Clamwin is not a highly rated program.

the problem described of slow performance with one antimalware program after
another is not generally experienced by NVDA users. I don't know what is
causing the problem but it is not a general NVDA problem. Perhaps someone
with more technical knowledge will be able to help further.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 3:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility


hi.
i know only clamwin which is accessible with nvda and i did not test
other programs.

On 12/15/16, Ibrahim Ajayi <kobisko@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi good people:
I've come to realize that the NVDA screenreader our wonderful
software, is not compatible with antivirus software. I've tried
several antivirus software on my system, and they appear incompatible
with NVDA. They make browsing extremely slow, and oftentimes, shut
down the screen reader. Sometimes I am taken off the site totally.
I've tried the avast antivirus software, marobite, microsoft essential
and avero. All are the same.
Is there a solution to this problem? I don't have this experience when
I use the demo version of JAWS for windows.
In order to use NVDA conveniently, I've had to remove the antivirus
software I have on my system, and after browsing, reinstall it, and
this can expose my system to attacks.
Looking forward to reading from you chaps again.
Thanks and cheers.
From Ibrahim in Nigeria.




--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org



--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: Deleted file recovery software

 

gene.
thanks extremely for your great informations.
and how about windows xp?
is it realy possible to use this feature on xp?

On 12/15/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
You are correct about Vista not making Shadow Copy available to home users
except by using a third party utility. This makes no sense but that's how
it is. But Windows 7 has no such restrictions and all versions allow the
user to recover files working directly with the old versions interface.
From Wikipedia:
The "Previous Versions" feature is available in the Business, Enterprise,
and Ultimate editions of Windows Vista[15] and in all Windows 7 editions.
The Home Editions of Vista lack the "Previous Versions" feature, even though
the Volume Snapshot Service is included and running. Using third-party tools
it is still possible to restore previous versions of files on the local
volume.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_Copy

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 2:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software


I don't know who says you need a third party utility to see the old files.
That is not true. it may be easier to use the utility to get access but I
can open the old version of any folder and see all the files. I'd have to
review the interface to see just how this is done, but I was able to copy a
file to the current folder. That is in Windows 7 home. It would be
completely illogical for Microsoft to have Shadow Copy and make it
inaccessible to users of this or that version of Windows.

If a statement is made by someone, a program designer, or just someone
discussing something, it should be treated skeptically.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 9:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software


hi.
download recuva
its very accessible and has wizart to teach you how to use it.
also you can try shadow explorer which works with windows vista and later.
www.piriform.com/recuva
www.shadowexplorer.com/
From time to time, Windows Vista / 7 / 8 creates point-in-time copies
of your files. This allows you to retrieve older versions from files
you accidentally deleted or altered. This service is turned on by
default on all versions of Windows Vista/7, but Microsoft grants
access to these copies only in Ultimate, Business, and Enterprise
editions. This is where ShadowExplorer comes into play.

ShadowExplorer
Since the Volume Shadow Copy Service is included, and turned on by
default, in all editions of Windows Vista / 7 / 8, why not take
advantage of it? All it takes is an additional tool like
ShadowExplorer, that can access the shadow storage and make the
point-in-time copies accessible to the user.
Features
•Show available point-in-time copies
•Browse through Shadow Copies
•Retrieve versions of files and folders
Limitations
Shadow Copies and ShadowExplorer are in no way a replacement for
regular backups! This is very important and can't be stressed enough.
A Shadow Copy is kept on the same disc as the original data. In case
of a disc failure all data is lost, including the Shadow Copies.
ShadowExplorer is a good addition to regular backups, but not a
replacement.

-

On 12/15/16, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the info re Piriform Recuva. It’s a friend of mine who’s
accidentally deleted some files. I’ve downloaded the portable version
for
her and also loaded the desktop version on my own machine. I’ve had a
quick
look at the interface and initial impressions re accessibility are very
favourable. I’ll report back when she has tried the recovery.



Cheers

Chris



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Felix
G.
Sent: 14 December 2016 21:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software



Hello,

Recuva was accessible at the time I used it some years ago.

Any write operation now has the potential to clobber that file, so you
better download the portable version to a thumb drive using another
machine
then run it.

Kind regards,

Felix Grützmacher



Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> schrieb am Mi., 14. Dez. 2016 um 19:55 Uhr:

I don't know how well Recuva works for most people. I have had little
success with it though there's no harm in trying.



However, if the files were on your machine at the time a restore point
was
made, if you are using the default settings, the files will be retained
by
shadow copy. I won't go into how to find them in this message because I
don't know how long they were on the drive nor do I know if you have
System
Restore active. I also don't know if the procedure is the same as mine
since
I don't know what version of Windows you are using.



Gene



From: Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@gmail.com>

Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 12:32 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software



Chris,

I can't swear to accessibility on this particular program, but
others
by the same maker (e.g. CCleaner) are. Have a look at Piriform.com and
their Recuva utility. It's free and you've got nothing to lose but a few
minutes time by trying it. In the case of deleted files that bypassed
the
Recycle Bin or have been emptied from it, the sooner you try to recover
them
the better.


--
Brian

Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient
premises.

~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902








--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org



--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: Deleted file recovery software

Gene
 

You are correct about Vista not making Shadow Copy available to home users except by using a third party utility.  This makes no sense but that's how it is.  But Windows 7 has no such restrictions and all versions allow the user to recover files working directly with the old versions interface.
From Wikipedia:
The "Previous Versions" feature is available in the Business, Enterprise, and Ultimate editions of Windows Vista[15] and in all Windows 7 editions. The Home Editions of Vista lack the "Previous Versions" feature, even though the Volume Snapshot Service is included and running. Using third-party tools it is still possible to restore previous versions of files on the local volume.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_Copy
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 2:48 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software

I don't know who says you need a third party utility to see the old files.  That is not true.  it may be easier to use the utility to get access but I can open the old version of any folder and see all the files.  I'd have to review the interface to see just how this is done, but I was able to copy a file to the current folder.  That is in Windows 7 home.  It would be completely illogical for Microsoft to have Shadow Copy and make it inaccessible to users of this or that version of Windows.
 
If a statement is made by someone, a program designer, or just someone discussing something, it should be treated skeptically.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software

hi.
download recuva
its very accessible and has wizart to teach you how to use it.
also you can try shadow explorer which works with windows vista and later.
www.piriform.com/recuva
www.shadowexplorer.com/
From time to time, Windows Vista / 7 / 8 creates point-in-time copies
of your files. This allows you to retrieve older versions from files
you accidentally deleted or altered. This service is turned on by
default on all versions of Windows Vista/7, but Microsoft grants
access to these copies only in Ultimate, Business, and Enterprise
editions. This is where ShadowExplorer comes into play.

ShadowExplorer
Since the Volume Shadow Copy Service is included, and turned on by
default, in all editions of Windows Vista / 7 / 8, why not take
advantage of it? All it takes is an additional tool like
ShadowExplorer, that can access the shadow storage and make the
point-in-time copies accessible to the user.
Features
•Show available point-in-time copies
•Browse through Shadow Copies
•Retrieve versions of files and folders
Limitations
Shadow Copies and ShadowExplorer are in no way a replacement for
regular backups! This is very important and can't be stressed enough.
A Shadow Copy is kept on the same disc as the original data. In case
of a disc failure all data is lost, including the Shadow Copies.
ShadowExplorer is a good addition to regular backups, but not a
replacement.

-

On 12/15/16, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:
> Thanks for the info re Piriform Recuva.  It’s a friend of mine who’s
> accidentally deleted some files.  I’ve downloaded the portable version for
> her and also loaded the desktop version on my own machine.  I’ve had a quick
> look at the interface and initial impressions re accessibility are very
> favourable.  I’ll report back when she has tried the recovery.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Felix
> G.
> Sent: 14 December 2016 21:41
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Recuva was accessible at the time I used it some years ago.
>
> Any write operation now has the potential to clobber that file, so you
> better download the portable version to a thumb drive using another machine
> then run it.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Felix Grützmacher
>
>
>
> Gene <gsasner@...> schrieb am Mi., 14. Dez. 2016 um 19:55 Uhr:
>
> I don't know how well Recuva works for most people.  I have had little
> success with it though there's no harm in trying.
>
>
>
> However, if the files were on your machine at the time a restore point was
> made, if you are using the default settings, the files will be retained by
> shadow copy.  I won't go into how to find them in this message because I
> don't know how long they were on the drive nor do I know if you have System
> Restore active. I also don't know if the procedure is the same as mine since
> I don't know what version of Windows you are using.
>
>
>
> Gene
>
>
>
> From: Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 12:32 PM
>
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software
>
>
>
> Chris,
>
>        I can't swear to accessibility on this particular program, but others
> by the same maker (e.g. CCleaner) are.  Have a look at Piriform.com and
> their Recuva utility.  It's free and you've got nothing to lose but a few
> minutes time by trying it.  In the case of deleted files that bypassed the
> Recycle Bin or have been emptied from it, the sooner you try to recover them
> the better.
>
>
> --
> Brian
>
>  Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient
> premises.
>
>          ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org




Re: Deleted file recovery software

Gene
 

Previous versions is a way to see the copies of files kept by Shadow copy.  I don't know how the means of seeing previous versions may differ from one version of Windows to another.  In Windows 7, I either found it by right clicking a folder containing a file and looking for an item named previous versions, or I found it by opening the properties of the folder.  I'm not sure now but I believe it is found by right clicking and looking through the context menu.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 3:56 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software

hi gene.
i copied the informations from the owner of the softwares.
i became very sad to read shadow explorer supports only ultimate,
proffessional and enterprize users of windows, not home users.
whats the different between windows previous versions and shadow copies?

On 12/15/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> I don't know who says you need a third party utility to see the old files.
> That is not true.  it may be easier to use the utility to get access but I
> can open the old version of any folder and see all the files.  I'd have to
> review the interface to see just how this is done, but I was able to copy a
> file to the current folder.  That is in Windows 7 home.  It would be
> completely illogical for Microsoft to have Shadow Copy and make it
> inaccessible to users of this or that version of Windows.
>
> If a statement is made by someone, a program designer, or just someone
> discussing something, it should be treated skeptically.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: nasrin khaksar
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 9:26 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software
>
>
> hi.
> download recuva
> its very accessible and has wizart to teach you how to use it.
> also you can try shadow explorer which works with windows vista and later.
> www.piriform.com/recuva
> www.shadowexplorer.com/
> From time to time, Windows Vista / 7 / 8 creates point-in-time copies
> of your files. This allows you to retrieve older versions from files
> you accidentally deleted or altered. This service is turned on by
> default on all versions of Windows Vista/7, but Microsoft grants
> access to these copies only in Ultimate, Business, and Enterprise
> editions. This is where ShadowExplorer comes into play.
>
> ShadowExplorer
> Since the Volume Shadow Copy Service is included, and turned on by
> default, in all editions of Windows Vista / 7 / 8, why not take
> advantage of it? All it takes is an additional tool like
> ShadowExplorer, that can access the shadow storage and make the
> point-in-time copies accessible to the user.
> Features
> •Show available point-in-time copies
> •Browse through Shadow Copies
> •Retrieve versions of files and folders
> Limitations
> Shadow Copies and ShadowExplorer are in no way a replacement for
> regular backups! This is very important and can't be stressed enough.
> A Shadow Copy is kept on the same disc as the original data. In case
> of a disc failure all data is lost, including the Shadow Copies.
> ShadowExplorer is a good addition to regular backups, but not a
> replacement.
>
> -
>
> On 12/15/16, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:
>> Thanks for the info re Piriform Recuva.  It’s a friend of mine who’s
>> accidentally deleted some files.  I’ve downloaded the portable version
>> for
>> her and also loaded the desktop version on my own machine.  I’ve had a
>> quick
>> look at the interface and initial impressions re accessibility are very
>> favourable.  I’ll report back when she has tried the recovery.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Felix
>> G.
>> Sent: 14 December 2016 21:41
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Recuva was accessible at the time I used it some years ago.
>>
>> Any write operation now has the potential to clobber that file, so you
>> better download the portable version to a thumb drive using another
>> machine
>> then run it.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Felix Grützmacher
>>
>>
>>
>> Gene <gsasner@...> schrieb am Mi., 14. Dez. 2016 um 19:55 Uhr:
>>
>> I don't know how well Recuva works for most people.  I have had little
>> success with it though there's no harm in trying.
>>
>>
>>
>> However, if the files were on your machine at the time a restore point
>> was
>> made, if you are using the default settings, the files will be retained
>> by
>> shadow copy.  I won't go into how to find them in this message because I
>> don't know how long they were on the drive nor do I know if you have
>> System
>> Restore active. I also don't know if the procedure is the same as mine
>> since
>> I don't know what version of Windows you are using.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gene
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 12:32 PM
>>
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>>        I can't swear to accessibility on this particular program, but
>> others
>> by the same maker (e.g. CCleaner) are.  Have a look at Piriform.com and
>> their Recuva utility.  It's free and you've got nothing to lose but a few
>> minutes time by trying it.  In the case of deleted files that bypassed
>> the
>> Recycle Bin or have been emptied from it, the sooner you try to recover
>> them
>> the better.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Brian
>>
>>  Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient
>> premises.
>>
>>          ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
> in the very authentic narration is:
> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> al-islam.org
>
>
>
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org




Re: NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility

Gene
 

Clamwin is not a highly rated program. 
 
the problem described of slow performance with one antimalware program after another is not generally experienced by NVDA users.  I don't know what is causing the problem but it is not a general NVDA problem.  Perhaps someone with more technical knowledge will be able to help further.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 3:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility

hi.
i know only clamwin which is accessible with nvda and i did not test
other programs.

On 12/15/16, Ibrahim Ajayi <kobisko@...> wrote:
> Hi good people:
> I've come to realize that the NVDA screenreader our wonderful
> software, is not compatible with antivirus software.  I've tried
> several antivirus software on my system, and they appear incompatible
> with NVDA.  They make browsing extremely slow, and oftentimes, shut
> down the screen reader. Sometimes I am taken off the site totally.
> I've tried the avast antivirus software, marobite, microsoft essential
> and avero.  All are the same.
> Is there a solution to this problem? I don't have this experience when
> I use the demo version of JAWS for windows.
> In order to use NVDA conveniently, I've had to remove the antivirus
> software I have on my system, and after browsing, reinstall it, and
> this can expose my system to attacks.
> Looking forward to reading from you chaps again.
> Thanks and cheers.
> From Ibrahim in Nigeria.
>
>
>
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org




Re: Deleted file recovery software

 

hi gene.
i copied the informations from the owner of the softwares.
i became very sad to read shadow explorer supports only ultimate,
proffessional and enterprize users of windows, not home users.
whats the different between windows previous versions and shadow copies?

On 12/15/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
I don't know who says you need a third party utility to see the old files.
That is not true. it may be easier to use the utility to get access but I
can open the old version of any folder and see all the files. I'd have to
review the interface to see just how this is done, but I was able to copy a
file to the current folder. That is in Windows 7 home. It would be
completely illogical for Microsoft to have Shadow Copy and make it
inaccessible to users of this or that version of Windows.

If a statement is made by someone, a program designer, or just someone
discussing something, it should be treated skeptically.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 9:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software


hi.
download recuva
its very accessible and has wizart to teach you how to use it.
also you can try shadow explorer which works with windows vista and later.
www.piriform.com/recuva
www.shadowexplorer.com/
From time to time, Windows Vista / 7 / 8 creates point-in-time copies
of your files. This allows you to retrieve older versions from files
you accidentally deleted or altered. This service is turned on by
default on all versions of Windows Vista/7, but Microsoft grants
access to these copies only in Ultimate, Business, and Enterprise
editions. This is where ShadowExplorer comes into play.

ShadowExplorer
Since the Volume Shadow Copy Service is included, and turned on by
default, in all editions of Windows Vista / 7 / 8, why not take
advantage of it? All it takes is an additional tool like
ShadowExplorer, that can access the shadow storage and make the
point-in-time copies accessible to the user.
Features
•Show available point-in-time copies
•Browse through Shadow Copies
•Retrieve versions of files and folders
Limitations
Shadow Copies and ShadowExplorer are in no way a replacement for
regular backups! This is very important and can't be stressed enough.
A Shadow Copy is kept on the same disc as the original data. In case
of a disc failure all data is lost, including the Shadow Copies.
ShadowExplorer is a good addition to regular backups, but not a
replacement.

-

On 12/15/16, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the info re Piriform Recuva. It’s a friend of mine who’s
accidentally deleted some files. I’ve downloaded the portable version
for
her and also loaded the desktop version on my own machine. I’ve had a
quick
look at the interface and initial impressions re accessibility are very
favourable. I’ll report back when she has tried the recovery.



Cheers

Chris



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Felix
G.
Sent: 14 December 2016 21:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software



Hello,

Recuva was accessible at the time I used it some years ago.

Any write operation now has the potential to clobber that file, so you
better download the portable version to a thumb drive using another
machine
then run it.

Kind regards,

Felix Grützmacher



Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> schrieb am Mi., 14. Dez. 2016 um 19:55 Uhr:

I don't know how well Recuva works for most people. I have had little
success with it though there's no harm in trying.



However, if the files were on your machine at the time a restore point
was
made, if you are using the default settings, the files will be retained
by
shadow copy. I won't go into how to find them in this message because I
don't know how long they were on the drive nor do I know if you have
System
Restore active. I also don't know if the procedure is the same as mine
since
I don't know what version of Windows you are using.



Gene



From: Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@gmail.com>

Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 12:32 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software



Chris,

I can't swear to accessibility on this particular program, but
others
by the same maker (e.g. CCleaner) are. Have a look at Piriform.com and
their Recuva utility. It's free and you've got nothing to lose but a few
minutes time by trying it. In the case of deleted files that bypassed
the
Recycle Bin or have been emptied from it, the sooner you try to recover
them
the better.


--
Brian

Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient
premises.

~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902








--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org



--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: how to read arabic superscripts

 

hello.
in which program do you mean?
you can read diacrritics in arabic for many programs by left and right
arrow keys like letters.
i mean that you can use microsoft office word, wordpad, notepad++,
firefox and internet explorer both letters and diacritics by left and
right arrow keys.
but unfortunately, using windows notepad, libreoffice and openoffice,
you cant read diacritics by left and right arrow keys and only letters
are accessible.

On 12/15/16, Ben J. Bloomgren <bbloomgren@icloud.com> wrote:
Are you referring to the vowels and the other diacritics? I don't know those
as superscripts, but I'm wondering if that's what you mean. Are you using a
braille display?

On Dec 14, 2016, at 22:29, Umair Ijaz <umairthescholar@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear listers,
I would like to know whether there is any way to read superscript in
arabic text? the superscript which tell us how to read the word.
fatah, nasub , jur, or zair zabar, paish are the technical names of
those superscripts. I am reading Holy Quran and I am not an arabic
native so i want to occasionally know the superscripts on the words.
the sighted can see them in the text but there is no way for me to
read it. kindly tell me how may i read them. i have enabled all
punctuation but it is not reading. is there any special command for
that?
waiting anxiously. thanks.


--

www.umairijaz.com

"A Person who won't read has no advantage over who can't read"




--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility

 

hi.
i know only clamwin which is accessible with nvda and i did not test
other programs.

On 12/15/16, Ibrahim Ajayi <kobisko@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi good people:
I've come to realize that the NVDA screenreader our wonderful
software, is not compatible with antivirus software.  I've tried
several antivirus software on my system, and they appear incompatible
with NVDA.  They make browsing extremely slow, and oftentimes, shut
down the screen reader. Sometimes I am taken off the site totally.
I've tried the avast antivirus software, marobite, microsoft essential
and avero.  All are the same.
Is there a solution to this problem? I don't have this experience when
I use the demo version of JAWS for windows.
In order to use NVDA conveniently, I've had to remove the antivirus
software I have on my system, and after browsing, reinstall it, and
this can expose my system to attacks.
Looking forward to reading from you chaps again.
Thanks and cheers.
From Ibrahim in Nigeria.



--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Weather Plus update

Adriano Barbieri
 

Hi there,

 

Version 4.2 15.12.2016

* Fixed bug in the translation of the scale measurement;
In some languages, Kelvin, Celsius and Fahrenheit have not been translated.
 
Weather Plus it can auto-update, but you can also download it from:
direct download::
or:
 
Cheers
Adriano Barbieri


Re: how to read arabic superscripts

Ben J. Bloomgren
 

Are you referring to the vowels and the other diacritics? I don't know those as superscripts, but I'm wondering if that's what you mean. Are you using a braille display?

On Dec 14, 2016, at 22:29, Umair Ijaz <umairthescholar@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear listers,
I would like to know whether there is any way to read superscript in
arabic text? the superscript which tell us how to read the word.
fatah, nasub , jur, or zair zabar, paish are the technical names of
those superscripts. I am reading Holy Quran and I am not an arabic
native so i want to occasionally know the superscripts on the words.
the sighted can see them in the text but there is no way for me to
read it. kindly tell me how may i read them. i have enabled all
punctuation but it is not reading. is there any special command for
that?
waiting anxiously. thanks.


--

www.umairijaz.com

"A Person who won't read has no advantage over who can't read"



how to read arabic superscripts

Umair Ijaz <umairthescholar@...>
 

Dear listers,
I would like to know whether there is any way to read superscript in
arabic text? the superscript which tell us how to read the word.
fatah, nasub , jur, or zair zabar, paish are the technical names of
those superscripts. I am reading Holy Quran and I am not an arabic
native so i want to occasionally know the superscripts on the words.
the sighted can see them in the text but there is no way for me to
read it. kindly tell me how may i read them. i have enabled all
punctuation but it is not reading. is there any special command for
that?
waiting anxiously. thanks.


--

www.umairijaz.com

"A Person who won't read has no advantage over who can't read"


Re: Deleted file recovery software

Gene
 

I don't know who says you need a third party utility to see the old files.  That is not true.  it may be easier to use the utility to get access but I can open the old version of any folder and see all the files.  I'd have to review the interface to see just how this is done, but I was able to copy a file to the current folder.  That is in Windows 7 home.  It would be completely illogical for Microsoft to have Shadow Copy and make it inaccessible to users of this or that version of Windows.
 
If a statement is made by someone, a program designer, or just someone discussing something, it should be treated skeptically.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software

hi.
download recuva
its very accessible and has wizart to teach you how to use it.
also you can try shadow explorer which works with windows vista and later.
www.piriform.com/recuva
www.shadowexplorer.com/
From time to time, Windows Vista / 7 / 8 creates point-in-time copies
of your files. This allows you to retrieve older versions from files
you accidentally deleted or altered. This service is turned on by
default on all versions of Windows Vista/7, but Microsoft grants
access to these copies only in Ultimate, Business, and Enterprise
editions. This is where ShadowExplorer comes into play.

ShadowExplorer
Since the Volume Shadow Copy Service is included, and turned on by
default, in all editions of Windows Vista / 7 / 8, why not take
advantage of it? All it takes is an additional tool like
ShadowExplorer, that can access the shadow storage and make the
point-in-time copies accessible to the user.
Features
•Show available point-in-time copies
•Browse through Shadow Copies
•Retrieve versions of files and folders
Limitations
Shadow Copies and ShadowExplorer are in no way a replacement for
regular backups! This is very important and can't be stressed enough.
A Shadow Copy is kept on the same disc as the original data. In case
of a disc failure all data is lost, including the Shadow Copies.
ShadowExplorer is a good addition to regular backups, but not a
replacement.

-

On 12/15/16, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:
> Thanks for the info re Piriform Recuva.  It’s a friend of mine who’s
> accidentally deleted some files.  I’ve downloaded the portable version for
> her and also loaded the desktop version on my own machine.  I’ve had a quick
> look at the interface and initial impressions re accessibility are very
> favourable.  I’ll report back when she has tried the recovery.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Felix
> G.
> Sent: 14 December 2016 21:41
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Recuva was accessible at the time I used it some years ago.
>
> Any write operation now has the potential to clobber that file, so you
> better download the portable version to a thumb drive using another machine
> then run it.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Felix Grützmacher
>
>
>
> Gene <gsasner@...> schrieb am Mi., 14. Dez. 2016 um 19:55 Uhr:
>
> I don't know how well Recuva works for most people.  I have had little
> success with it though there's no harm in trying.
>
>
>
> However, if the files were on your machine at the time a restore point was
> made, if you are using the default settings, the files will be retained by
> shadow copy.  I won't go into how to find them in this message because I
> don't know how long they were on the drive nor do I know if you have System
> Restore active. I also don't know if the procedure is the same as mine since
> I don't know what version of Windows you are using.
>
>
>
> Gene
>
>
>
> From: Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 12:32 PM
>
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software
>
>
>
> Chris,
>
>        I can't swear to accessibility on this particular program, but others
> by the same maker (e.g. CCleaner) are.  Have a look at Piriform.com and
> their Recuva utility.  It's free and you've got nothing to lose but a few
> minutes time by trying it.  In the case of deleted files that bypassed the
> Recycle Bin or have been emptied from it, the sooner you try to recover them
> the better.
>
>
> --
> Brian
>
>  Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient
> premises.
>
>          ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org




Re: WeatherPlus Whining

Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...>
 

I am having the same problem.

-----Original Message-----
From: Adriano Barbieri via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 2:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] WeatherPlus Whining

Hi Rob,

Is it right to the second.
Are the usual updates to Yahoo weather, occasionally makes these jokes.,
then back to normal.

Cheers
Adriano

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob" <captinlogic@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 1:31 AM
Subject: [nvda] WeatherPlus Whining


Recently, whenever I try to check the weather with this addon, I get
"Sorry, the woeID set is not valid!"
It comes and goes. Sometimes it will work and other times this message pops
up.
Is this an addon problem or a website problem.


Re: WeatherPlus Whining

Adriano Barbieri
 

Hi Rob,

Is it right to the second.
Are the usual updates to Yahoo weather, occasionally makes these jokes., then back to normal.

Cheers
Adriano

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob" <captinlogic@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 1:31 AM
Subject: [nvda] WeatherPlus Whining


Recently, whenever I try to check the weather with this addon, I get
"Sorry, the woeID set is not valid!"
It comes and goes. Sometimes it will work and other times this message pops up.
Is this an addon problem or a website problem.


Re: Deleted file recovery software

 

hi.
download recuva
its very accessible and has wizart to teach you how to use it.
also you can try shadow explorer which works with windows vista and later.
www.piriform.com/recuva
www.shadowexplorer.com/
From time to time, Windows Vista / 7 / 8 creates point-in-time copies
of your files. This allows you to retrieve older versions from files
you accidentally deleted or altered. This service is turned on by
default on all versions of Windows Vista/7, but Microsoft grants
access to these copies only in Ultimate, Business, and Enterprise
editions. This is where ShadowExplorer comes into play.

ShadowExplorer
Since the Volume Shadow Copy Service is included, and turned on by
default, in all editions of Windows Vista / 7 / 8, why not take
advantage of it? All it takes is an additional tool like
ShadowExplorer, that can access the shadow storage and make the
point-in-time copies accessible to the user.
Features
•Show available point-in-time copies
•Browse through Shadow Copies
•Retrieve versions of files and folders
Limitations
Shadow Copies and ShadowExplorer are in no way a replacement for
regular backups! This is very important and can't be stressed enough.
A Shadow Copy is kept on the same disc as the original data. In case
of a disc failure all data is lost, including the Shadow Copies.
ShadowExplorer is a good addition to regular backups, but not a
replacement.

-

On 12/15/16, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the info re Piriform Recuva. It’s a friend of mine who’s
accidentally deleted some files. I’ve downloaded the portable version for
her and also loaded the desktop version on my own machine. I’ve had a quick
look at the interface and initial impressions re accessibility are very
favourable. I’ll report back when she has tried the recovery.



Cheers

Chris



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Felix
G.
Sent: 14 December 2016 21:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software



Hello,

Recuva was accessible at the time I used it some years ago.

Any write operation now has the potential to clobber that file, so you
better download the portable version to a thumb drive using another machine
then run it.

Kind regards,

Felix Grützmacher



Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> schrieb am Mi., 14. Dez. 2016 um 19:55 Uhr:

I don't know how well Recuva works for most people. I have had little
success with it though there's no harm in trying.



However, if the files were on your machine at the time a restore point was
made, if you are using the default settings, the files will be retained by
shadow copy. I won't go into how to find them in this message because I
don't know how long they were on the drive nor do I know if you have System
Restore active. I also don't know if the procedure is the same as mine since
I don't know what version of Windows you are using.



Gene



From: Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@gmail.com>

Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 12:32 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software



Chris,

I can't swear to accessibility on this particular program, but others
by the same maker (e.g. CCleaner) are. Have a look at Piriform.com and
their Recuva utility. It's free and you've got nothing to lose but a few
minutes time by trying it. In the case of deleted files that bypassed the
Recycle Bin or have been emptied from it, the sooner you try to recover them
the better.


--
Brian

Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient
premises.

~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902







--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org