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KeyBoard Nonresponsive On Win10 Machine After Installing NVDA2016.1

James Robinson
 

Hello List!
 
After installing NVDA2016.1 on my Win10 Machine, my keyboard has somehow become nonresponsive, but my mouse still works; I can move the mouse around and eventually the system will say “logon screen stuff and edit in the voice of my default screenreader; could I have accidentally turned something off or muted my system; I tried a second keyboard by changing the wireless device USB and trying its accompanying keyboard and mouse and the problem persists; and anyway I hope someone has some idea of what is happening to my system and can give me some suggestions on what to do to try to solve it. 
 
One additional thing:  The shortcut combo of “CTRL+ALT+N is also the system shortcut for the SAmNet Systemt; I switched the shortcut for the Samnet program to another shortcut key but NVDA’s shortcut still does not work; should I re-enter the NVDA shortcut and see if it works.
 
Thanks for your help.
 
Sincerely,


James Arthur Robinson, Sr., President
Jardata Corporation


Re: Why not leave nvda's name the way it is

Patrick Le Baudour
 

At least nvda doesn't remind people of a puppet shark and some blood... Ok, sorry for that....

As a reminder, the proposition didn't came from any official source, and I wouldn't expect it to come on the agenda anytime soon. Just no point.

I think for most companies, a name change comes because a bad image (scandal, too old-fashioned, ...) or because they'd never got results and want to try a catchier name.
I don't think nvda should be concerned about that, - or is the one handling the donation some guy named maddoff, trying a new punzi pyramid scam with it ... ? ;)

Le 21/03/2016 22:38, Bhavya shah a écrit :
Hi,
I find JAWS a more easy-to-remember name for maybe sighted persons or
developers who are being told about screen reading, but that does not
mean NVDA is a bad or inappropriate name - it is perfect, and
moreover, it would be really impractical and unrealistic to even
considering getting this whole product's name changed.
It certainly shall remain the way it is, and now NVDA has a quality
attributed to its name as well as a product, and that must be
retained.
Thanks.

On 3


Re: teamtalk was the talk tonight

Bhavya shah
 

Hi Laura, and others (as I know there was another related query which
I didn't directly answer),
I would highly recommend everyone to carefully read the information
and instructions very comprehensively provided on the NVDACon page at
http://nvda-kr.org/en/nvdacon.php
To copy the exact information you have requested, read the below pasted excerpt:
◦ From within TeamTalk, press f2. Tab until you get to the "host
properties" group, and simply erase any information that may be
already in the edit fields. For the "entry name", type anything you
want that will tell you what this server is (for example, "NVDACon").
For "host address", type nvda-kr.org. Set TCP port to 10333 and UDP
port to 10333 and skip everything else. Press enter on "join/update"
and you should be all set.

If you encounter any problems or difficulties during the process, or
in Teamtalk in general, feel free to let us know, and we would be glad
to further assist, however, I would like to emphasize that the NVDACon
page has great answers to most questions you may have, and I would
strongly encourage everyone to read that page, whose link I have
shared above as well.
Looking forward to meeting you at NVDACon International 2016!
Thanks.

On 3/21/16, laura cornwell <lauracornwell1@gmail.com> wrote:
I am needing the team talk info to put in the f2 stuff on tean talk.

On 3/16/2016 4:48 PM, Scott VanDeWalle wrote:
Thank you so very much.

Scott

On 3/16/2016 11:24 AM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Hi Scott,
I will respond with two things here:
* 100 is the loudest and 0 is the softest volume you can acquire.
* If you are wondering what difference exists between the three
sliders, the NVDACon page explains that by the following quotes:
'5. While in any room, you will see three slider controls after the
list of channels (rooms and channels are the same thing), along with
an edit field. The first edit field is for system and user messages.
The second lets you chat by typing text and pressing enter. The first
slider changes your microphone's sensitivity (gain), the second
changes the volume of the room in general as you hear it, and we are
not sure what the third one does.'
Also, to test your mike audio, in earlier conferences, we did have a
mike audio testing room specifically, but due to technicalities I am
unaware of, our server administrator tells us this may not be possible
to implement in Teamtalk 5, or this NVDACon. If I remember correctly,
the alternative way of checking your microphone is by pressing Ctrl +
4 in any room or channel, and your audio should be echoed back for
your understanding and testing, as I was earlier told by someone.

By the way, for the Android users on this list, I would also like to
mention that the Teamtalk Android app is in development stage
currently, but you still might want to try it out from
http://bearware.dk/?p=279 as its optimal accessibility with Talkback
is explicitly assured. A friend of mine and myself are going to test
the Teamtalk Android app ourselves as well. Will share our findings
once we are thoroughly done with our assessment.
Thanks.

On 3/16/16, Scott VanDeWalle <scottvandewalle2@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Bhavya.
I installed teamtalk just now.
It appears like i'm connected, well not at the exact moment as i write
this but i did get into the rooms.
But, now since there is nobody there, how do i test my audio?
And those sliders for the microphone, is 0 or 100 the loudest.
I'm asking because sometimes programs i have run into can be different
in that respect.
Talk to you later.

Scott

On 3/15/2016 6:48 AM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Hi Scott,
Well, do let us know in case you have some specific Teamtalk problems
or troubleshooting requirements, and the TT experts here may be able
to help you.
Just to note, you can communicate in the conference via text messages
as well as audio conversation. Text chats are always recognized and
read out by others. If microphone configuration with TT is an issue
for you, hope that may no longer need to be an impediment for
participation in NVDACon. :) smiles
Thanks.

On 3/15/16, Scott VanDeWalle <scottvandewalle2@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, i plan to be there, if i can get team talk working on my
system.
I tried before and it didn't work, so we'll see i guess.smile.

Scott

On 3/14/2016 9:56 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Hi Scott, Joseph and others,
It was great fun for me too to be a part of the recent Accessible
World Techtalk presentation, and am thankful to Joseph for the same.
Just like this recent Techtalk event related to NVDA, I would
encourage everyone to participate in this, and future events,
including the NVDACon International 2016, of course. Looking forward
to seeing you out there, Scott, and many others.
Thanks.

On 3/15/16, Scott VanDeWalle <scottvandewalle2@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Joseph and all.
First of all I wanted to say thanks Joseph, that was fun to
listen to.
I will have to reinstall the plugin though because I tried to
talk and
it didn't work i think.
But, thanks again.
Maybe some day I'll actually get to talk to you all in voice during
one
of these things.

I'm planning to be there during at least some of the nvda con
sessions.
Sounds like it'll be fun.

Well, that is all for now.

Talk to you all later.

Scott V











--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@gmail.com
Skype id : bhavya.09


Re: Why not leave nvda's name the way it is

Bhavya shah
 

Hi,
I find JAWS a more easy-to-remember name for maybe sighted persons or
developers who are being told about screen reading, but that does not
mean NVDA is a bad or inappropriate name - it is perfect, and
moreover, it would be really impractical and unrealistic to even
considering getting this whole product's name changed.
It certainly shall remain the way it is, and now NVDA has a quality
attributed to its name as well as a product, and that must be
retained.
Thanks.

On 3/22/16, Andrew <drudwn2000@cox.net> wrote:
In my humble opinion, N V D A fits like a glove. Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: Noah Davis [mailto:mostawesomenoah@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 1:57 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why not leave nvda's name the way it is

I never heard of a name change proposal for NVDA...
Noah

On 3/21/16, Arlene <nedster66@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, Leave it the way it is! Don’t change its name!

-----Original Message-----
From: Angela Delicata via Groups.io
[mailto:angeladelicata=libero.it@groups.io]
Sent: March-21-16 1:14 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why not leave nvda's name the way it is

Well, nvda is so good as a name, why do you want to change it?
Thank you.
Angela from Italy


Il 21/03/2016 21:11, Lenron ha scritto:
what issues. NVDA works grand.

On 3/20/16, Kevin Chao <kevinchao89@gmail.com> wrote:
What issues are there with the screen reader?

On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 6:23 AM marvin kotler <m.kotler53@gmail.com>
wrote:

Good morning list; Marv here. There are enough other issues
regarding the screen reader itself; so, lets leave the name the way
it is; cheers

---
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--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@gmail.com
Skype id : bhavya.09


Re: Why not leave nvda's name the way it is

AndrewDS <drudwn2000@...>
 

In my humble opinion, N V D A fits like a glove. Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: Noah Davis [mailto:mostawesomenoah@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 1:57 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why not leave nvda's name the way it is

I never heard of a name change proposal for NVDA...
Noah

On 3/21/16, Arlene <nedster66@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, Leave it the way it is! Don’t change its name!

-----Original Message-----
From: Angela Delicata via Groups.io
[mailto:angeladelicata=libero.it@groups.io]
Sent: March-21-16 1:14 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why not leave nvda's name the way it is

Well, nvda is so good as a name, why do you want to change it?
Thank you.
Angela from Italy


Il 21/03/2016 21:11, Lenron ha scritto:
what issues. NVDA works grand.

On 3/20/16, Kevin Chao <kevinchao89@gmail.com> wrote:
What issues are there with the screen reader?

On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 6:23 AM marvin kotler <m.kotler53@gmail.com>
wrote:

Good morning list; Marv here. There are enough other issues
regarding the screen reader itself; so, lets leave the name the way
it is; cheers

---
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Re: Why not leave nvda's name the way it is

Noah Davis
 

I never heard of a name change proposal for NVDA...
Noah

On 3/21/16, Arlene <nedster66@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, Leave it the way it is! Don’t change its name!

-----Original Message-----
From: Angela Delicata via Groups.io
[mailto:angeladelicata=libero.it@groups.io]
Sent: March-21-16 1:14 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why not leave nvda's name the way it is

Well, nvda is so good as a name, why do you want to change it?
Thank you.
Angela from Italy


Il 21/03/2016 21:11, Lenron ha scritto:
what issues. NVDA works grand.

On 3/20/16, Kevin Chao <kevinchao89@gmail.com> wrote:
What issues are there with the screen reader?

On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 6:23 AM marvin kotler <m.kotler53@gmail.com>
wrote:

Good morning list; Marv here. There are enough other issues regarding
the
screen reader itself; so, lets leave the name the way it is; cheers

---
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antivirus.
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Re: Why not leave nvda's name the way it is

Arlene
 

Yeah, Leave it the way it is! Don’t change its name!

-----Original Message-----
From: Angela Delicata via Groups.io [mailto:angeladelicata=libero.it@groups.io]
Sent: March-21-16 1:14 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why not leave nvda's name the way it is

Well, nvda is so good as a name, why do you want to change it?
Thank you.
Angela from Italy


Il 21/03/2016 21:11, Lenron ha scritto:
what issues. NVDA works grand.

On 3/20/16, Kevin Chao <kevinchao89@gmail.com> wrote:
What issues are there with the screen reader?

On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 6:23 AM marvin kotler <m.kotler53@gmail.com> wrote:

Good morning list; Marv here. There are enough other issues regarding
the
screen reader itself; so, lets leave the name the way it is; cheers

---
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Re: Why not leave nvda's name the way it is

Angela Delicata
 

Well, nvda is so good as a name, why do you want to change it?
Thank you.
Angela from Italy


Il 21/03/2016 21:11, Lenron ha scritto:
what issues. NVDA works grand.

On 3/20/16, Kevin Chao <kevinchao89@gmail.com> wrote:
What issues are there with the screen reader?

On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 6:23 AM marvin kotler <m.kotler53@gmail.com> wrote:

Good morning list; Marv here. There are enough other issues regarding
the
screen reader itself; so, lets leave the name the way it is; cheers

---
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https://www.avast.com/antivirus


Re: Why not leave nvda's name the way it is

Lenron
 

what issues. NVDA works grand.

On 3/20/16, Kevin Chao <kevinchao89@gmail.com> wrote:
What issues are there with the screen reader?

On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 6:23 AM marvin kotler <m.kotler53@gmail.com> wrote:

Good morning list; Marv here. There are enough other issues regarding
the
screen reader itself; so, lets leave the name the way it is; cheers

--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762


Re: Touchscreens?

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

Rob,

I would absolutely love! a demonstration via audio.

Would you be willing to make me one and send via either Sendspace, or preferably Dropbox?

My private e-mail is:

clgilland07@gmail.com

Chris.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgilland07@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010 Extension 401.

----- Original Message -----
From: "rob" <rob@robgw.net>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Touchscreens?


Hi

Well, not strictly NVDA based, but all the same.
Having given up using the tablet with NVDA, I launched narator with a case of morbid curiosity.
To my surprise, it is very straight forward to use, all gestures work as suggested, navigating is simple and straight forward.
I'm able to do basic things very easily, launching apps, browsing the internet, etc. It's just a real shame that typing is exactly as standard typing is on iOS, i.e. having to double tap each letter. If this was fixed, this would not be a bad screen-reader at all in my opinion, based on early views.

If anyone knows if the typing can be fixed, or if anyone would like a demonstration, please let me know either way.

Rob

On 21/03/2016 13:25, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
OK, if you want something with Eloquence, and you want it to be a tablet, and you want touch to work, then check out maybe getting an Android tablet. The Samsung Galaxy lineup is really really nice.

Chris.


-----Original Message-----
From: rob [mailto:rob@robgw.net]
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 5:23 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Touchscreens?

Hi

Certainly I'll be returning the unit, but I won't be buying one with a keyboard.
I wanted something small enough to put in a jacket pocket so I could read on the bus, on the train, etc.
Something that allowed me to read with eloquence.
Of course, a lot of the tablets with keyboards simply look like small laptops, and I already have an 11 inch macbook air.
Oh well, who knows what I'll do.

Rob

On 21/03/2016 09:18, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
:-)
One returns the unit and buys one with a keyboard?

I'll duck behind the sofa to avoid the tomatoes now!
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Chao"
<kevinchao89@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Touchscreens?


Hmmm.... This is a bit counter-productive: Input help mode is toggled
with NVDA key+1, but this doesn't work without a keyboard, so how is
one to learn/practice gestures on touch screen-only device?

On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 9:26 AM rob <rob@robgw.net> wrote:

Hi chris

The issue is that I honestly can't use the tablet at all the way it
is at the moment, so I'd need a keyboard to be able to install an addon.
I don't even know how useable the tablet would be with nvda running
for a sighted person.

I have a bluetooth keyboard, but obviously can't get into settings
to connect it.

Rob

On 20/03/2016 16:20, Chris wrote:
yeah you do lose some of the touch screen functionality when using
together with a screen reader Narrator is probably the best to use
in conjunction with a touch screen and gestures, but that has its
own issues as youn may know

you may want to try the enhanced gestures add-on for nvda, that
may improve things a bit

good luck



On 20/03/2016 15:56, rob wrote:
Hi folks

Today, I received a linx 8, windows tablet. Running windows 8.1,
after getting set up with some sighted assistance to install NVDA.
and before anyone says it, reading the user guide, I find myself
completely lost and baffled as to how one goes about using a
touchscreen with nvda.

All of the gestures mentioned in the guide, such as, two finger
double tap to open the nvda menu, three finger tap to change
touch modes, flicking from left to right, up/down. double
tapping, fail to register. I get some information when putting my
finger on a random part of the screen, or sliding around, but nothing worth mentioning.

Am I missing something, or is it just very buggy?
also, I'm using nvda 16.1

Regards

Rob











Re: Touchscreens?

rob
 

Hi

Well, not strictly NVDA based, but all the same.
Having given up using the tablet with NVDA, I launched narator with a case of morbid curiosity.
To my surprise, it is very straight forward to use, all gestures work as suggested, navigating is simple and straight forward.
I'm able to do basic things very easily, launching apps, browsing the internet, etc. It's just a real shame that typing is exactly as standard typing is on iOS, i.e. having to double tap each letter. If this was fixed, this would not be a bad screen-reader at all in my opinion, based on early views.

If anyone knows if the typing can be fixed, or if anyone would like a demonstration, please let me know either way.

Rob

On 21/03/2016 13:25, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
OK, if you want something with Eloquence, and you want it to be a tablet, and you want touch to work, then check out maybe getting an Android tablet. The Samsung Galaxy lineup is really really nice.

Chris.


-----Original Message-----
From: rob [mailto:rob@robgw.net]
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 5:23 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Touchscreens?

Hi

Certainly I'll be returning the unit, but I won't be buying one with a keyboard.
I wanted something small enough to put in a jacket pocket so I could read on the bus, on the train, etc.
Something that allowed me to read with eloquence.
Of course, a lot of the tablets with keyboards simply look like small laptops, and I already have an 11 inch macbook air.
Oh well, who knows what I'll do.

Rob

On 21/03/2016 09:18, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
:-)
One returns the unit and buys one with a keyboard?

I'll duck behind the sofa to avoid the tomatoes now!
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Chao"
<kevinchao89@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Touchscreens?


Hmmm.... This is a bit counter-productive: Input help mode is toggled
with NVDA key+1, but this doesn't work without a keyboard, so how is
one to learn/practice gestures on touch screen-only device?

On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 9:26 AM rob <rob@robgw.net> wrote:

Hi chris

The issue is that I honestly can't use the tablet at all the way it
is at the moment, so I'd need a keyboard to be able to install an addon.
I don't even know how useable the tablet would be with nvda running
for a sighted person.

I have a bluetooth keyboard, but obviously can't get into settings
to connect it.

Rob

On 20/03/2016 16:20, Chris wrote:
yeah you do lose some of the touch screen functionality when using
together with a screen reader Narrator is probably the best to use
in conjunction with a touch screen and gestures, but that has its
own issues as youn may know

you may want to try the enhanced gestures add-on for nvda, that
may improve things a bit

good luck



On 20/03/2016 15:56, rob wrote:
Hi folks

Today, I received a linx 8, windows tablet. Running windows 8.1,
after getting set up with some sighted assistance to install NVDA.
and before anyone says it, reading the user guide, I find myself
completely lost and baffled as to how one goes about using a
touchscreen with nvda.

All of the gestures mentioned in the guide, such as, two finger
double tap to open the nvda menu, three finger tap to change
touch modes, flicking from left to right, up/down. double
tapping, fail to register. I get some information when putting my
finger on a random part of the screen, or sliding around, but nothing worth mentioning.

Am I missing something, or is it just very buggy?
also, I'm using nvda 16.1

Regards

Rob










locked Re: test please read

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

If you're so tired of reading test messages, then just hit thedelete key. Don't make a mountain out of a molehill. Jim just wanted to make sure his messages were coming through so knock it off!


On 3/21/2016 8:15 AM, Alexander Masic wrote:
Why did people on the mailinglist always must try by sending stestmail. I'M so tired of them. You get an confirmationsmail and se others p persons post. so why did people. nead to send this stuped testmail! In my opinion Admin should forbid this beaviur.
Because it is not neaded to send this.



Den 2016-03-21 kl. 16:07, skrev Rosemarie Chavarria:
Hi, Jim,

I received your message with no problem.

Rosemarie



On 3/21/2016 1:33 AM, The Gamages wrote:
Hello list members,
I am not receiving messages from the groups io list,  any response would be appreciated to  make sure my ISP is not blocking the messages, thank you
Best Regards, Jim.




locked Re: test please read

mattias <mj@...>
 

exactly
and this is not the first testmail i see


Den 2016-03-21 kl. 16:15, skrev Alexander Masic:

Why did people on the mailinglist always must try by sending stestmail. I'M so tired of them. You get an confirmationsmail and se others p persons post. so why did people. nead to send this stuped testmail! In my opinion Admin should forbid this beaviur.
Because it is not neaded to send this.



Den 2016-03-21 kl. 16:07, skrev Rosemarie Chavarria:
Hi, Jim,

I received your message with no problem.

Rosemarie



On 3/21/2016 1:33 AM, The Gamages wrote:
Hello list members,
I am not receiving messages from the groups io list,  any response would be appreciated to  make sure my ISP is not blocking the messages, thank you
Best Regards, Jim.




Vocalizer demos?

Dan Beaver
 

Hi,

I am about to purchase a better synth and was looking for demos of the vocalizer voices. I can't seem to find these.

Do they exist and where can they be tried?

Thanks.

Dan Beaver


vocalizer addon

mattias <mj@...>
 

codefactory vs tiflotecnia
i dont know but..
the sound sounds different on tiflotecnia than codefactory
tiflotecnia sounds more clear...


locked Re: test please read

Alexander Masic
 

Why did people on the mailinglist always must try by sending stestmail. I'M so tired of them. You get an confirmationsmail and se others p persons post. so why did people. nead to send this stuped testmail! In my opinion Admin should forbid this beaviur.
Because it is not neaded to send this.



Den 2016-03-21 kl. 16:07, skrev Rosemarie Chavarria:

Hi, Jim,

I received your message with no problem.

Rosemarie



On 3/21/2016 1:33 AM, The Gamages wrote:
Hello list members,
I am not receiving messages from the groups io list,  any response would be appreciated to  make sure my ISP is not blocking the messages, thank you
Best Regards, Jim.



locked Re: test please read

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Jim,

I received your message with no problem.

Rosemarie



On 3/21/2016 1:33 AM, The Gamages wrote:
Hello list members,
I am not receiving messages from the groups io list,  any response would be appreciated to  make sure my ISP is not blocking the messages, thank you
Best Regards, Jim.


Re: Touchscreens?

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

OK, if you want something with Eloquence, and you want it to be a tablet, and you want touch to work, then check out maybe getting an Android tablet. The Samsung Galaxy lineup is really really nice.

Chris.

-----Original Message-----
From: rob [mailto:rob@robgw.net]
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 5:23 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Touchscreens?

Hi

Certainly I'll be returning the unit, but I won't be buying one with a keyboard.
I wanted something small enough to put in a jacket pocket so I could read on the bus, on the train, etc.
Something that allowed me to read with eloquence.
Of course, a lot of the tablets with keyboards simply look like small laptops, and I already have an 11 inch macbook air.
Oh well, who knows what I'll do.

Rob

On 21/03/2016 09:18, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
:-)
One returns the unit and buys one with a keyboard?

I'll duck behind the sofa to avoid the tomatoes now!
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Chao"
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Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Touchscreens?


Hmmm.... This is a bit counter-productive: Input help mode is toggled
with NVDA key+1, but this doesn't work without a keyboard, so how is
one to learn/practice gestures on touch screen-only device?

On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 9:26 AM rob <rob@robgw.net> wrote:

Hi chris

The issue is that I honestly can't use the tablet at all the way it
is at the moment, so I'd need a keyboard to be able to install an addon.
I don't even know how useable the tablet would be with nvda running
for a sighted person.

I have a bluetooth keyboard, but obviously can't get into settings
to connect it.

Rob

On 20/03/2016 16:20, Chris wrote:
yeah you do lose some of the touch screen functionality when using
together with a screen reader Narrator is probably the best to use
in conjunction with a touch screen and gestures, but that has its
own issues as youn may know

you may want to try the enhanced gestures add-on for nvda, that
may improve things a bit

good luck



On 20/03/2016 15:56, rob wrote:
Hi folks

Today, I received a linx 8, windows tablet. Running windows 8.1,
after getting set up with some sighted assistance to install NVDA.
and before anyone says it, reading the user guide, I find myself
completely lost and baffled as to how one goes about using a
touchscreen with nvda.

All of the gestures mentioned in the guide, such as, two finger
double tap to open the nvda menu, three finger tap to change
touch modes, flicking from left to right, up/down. double
tapping, fail to register. I get some information when putting my
finger on a random part of the screen, or sliding around, but nothing worth mentioning.

Am I missing something, or is it just very buggy?
also, I'm using nvda 16.1

Regards

Rob










Re: Touchscreens?

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

You know...

Out of all the people who have said touch screens are not working very well, and those, including myself, who've either agreed to make audio demos proving this, or have! Made audio demos showing it, those who swear to God, quote unquote, that it quote: just works, have been incredibly reluctant to make any demos showing their side of it working correctly. Hmm, I wonder why this might be?

Ya think?

Chris.

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Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 5:19 AM
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Touchscreens?

:-)
One returns the unit and buys one with a keyboard?

I'll duck behind the sofa to avoid the tomatoes now!
Brian

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From: "Kevin Chao" <kevinchao89@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Touchscreens?


Hmmm.... This is a bit counter-productive: Input help mode is toggled with
NVDA key+1, but this doesn't work without a keyboard, so how is one to
learn/practice gestures on touch screen-only device?

On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 9:26 AM rob <rob@robgw.net> wrote:

Hi chris

The issue is that I honestly can't use the tablet at all the way it is
at the moment, so I'd need a keyboard to be able to install an addon.
I don't even know how useable the tablet would be with nvda running for
a sighted person.

I have a bluetooth keyboard, but obviously can't get into settings to
connect it.

Rob

On 20/03/2016 16:20, Chris wrote:
yeah you do lose some of the touch screen functionality when using
together with a screen reader
Narrator is probably the best to use in conjunction with a touch
screen and gestures, but that has its own issues as youn may know

you may want to try the enhanced gestures add-on for nvda, that may
improve things a bit

good luck



On 20/03/2016 15:56, rob wrote:
Hi folks

Today, I received a linx 8, windows tablet. Running windows 8.1,
after getting set up with some sighted assistance to install NVDA.
and before anyone says it, reading the user guide, I find myself
completely lost and baffled as to how one goes about using a
touchscreen with nvda.

All of the gestures mentioned in the guide, such as, two finger
double tap to open the nvda menu, three finger tap to change touch
modes, flicking from left to right, up/down. double tapping, fail to
register. I get some information when putting my finger on a random
part of the screen, or sliding around, but nothing worth mentioning.

Am I missing something, or is it just very buggy?
also, I'm using nvda 16.1

Regards

Rob








Re: is there any option with NVDA to READ SINGLE DIGITS AND NOT A GROOUP OF DIGITS

Chris Mullins
 

This works a treat:
Open NVDA menu, Preferences, speech dictionary.
Press enter on voice dictionary, then activate the Add button .
Enter the following:

Pattern: (\d)
Replacement: \1 (Note there is a space after the 1 which you must enter)
Comment: Speak numbers using single digits
Leave case sensitivity checkbox unchecked
Select 'Regular Expression' from the Type Grouping combo box.
Activate Ok button to complete the entry
Activate OK button to exit dictionary manager.

Regular expression coding supplied by Tyler Spivey.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [nvda] is there any option with NVDA to READ SINGLE DIGITS AND
NOT A GROOUP OF DIGITS

This one has come up before. I seem to recall some kind of regular
expression was used, but it is not foolproof as numbers can be written with
many different separators.
I don't have the item stored here as I tend to drop into cursor edit mode
to read numbers.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Moty Azrad" <motiaz@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 6:04 PM
Subject: [nvda] is there any option with NVDA to READ SINGLE DIGITS AND NOT
A GROOUP OF DIGITS


Dear all,

The subject line explains well my question and if yes, how can I do it
and which changes must be done to enable this feature?

Moti




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