What’s the key board command to change the voice in NVDA.  I made an update today in Windows 10 and it seems like the voice of NVDA has changed.  I could not find the command in the user’s guide from what I can understand of the existing voice.  In this case can someone help please?Your Friend Dave

 

Hello,

I just tried the solution and it didn't work.



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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 12:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] a good news for people who want use previous versions of nvda with firefox 50!

hello every one.
today i downloaded firefox 50 to test it with previous versions of nvda.
i searched more than 40 minutes to find the emails about regression in firefox 50 using nvda and eventually found it!
i remember that the issue is about typing address bar.
when typing address bar and delete the last character, nvda announces all characters except deleted one!
and when we want to navigate between letters of address with left and right arrow keys, nvda says navigation toolbar before the focused character!
today, i found a solution for it!
type in address bar
about:config
press enter and accept the warning about your work.
in the search bar, type
browser.urlbar.autocomplete.enabled
press enter on it to set it to false.
because the default value is true.
now, you can use firefox 50 with any versions of nvda that you want easily!
but if you want to be upto date and always use the latest versions of firefox, after release of firefox 51 in almost two weeks later, you need to install nvda 2016.4 and later versions because multiprocess is nos enabled for accessibility in firefox 51 and later.
for this reason, nvda 2016.4 and newer support this feature.

• In Firefox with multi-process enabled, browse mode and editable text fields now function correctly.
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6380
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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 12:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] a good news for people who want use previous versions of nvda with firefox 50!

hello every one.
today i downloaded firefox 50 to test it with previous versions of nvda.
i searched more than 40 minutes to find the emails about regression in firefox 50 using nvda and eventually found it!
i remember that the issue is about typing address bar.
when typing address bar and delete the last character, nvda announces all characters except deleted one!
and when we want to navigate between letters of address with left and right arrow keys, nvda says navigation toolbar before the focused character!
today, i found a solution for it!
type in address bar
about:config
press enter and accept the warning about your work.
in the search bar, type
browser.urlbar.autocomplete.enabled
press enter on it to set it to false.
because the default value is true.
now, you can use firefox 50 with any versions of nvda that you want easily!
but if you want to be upto date and always use the latest versions of firefox, after release of firefox 51 in almost two weeks later, you need to install nvda 2016.4 and later versions because multiprocess is nos enabled for accessibility in firefox 51 and later.
for this reason, nvda 2016.4 and newer support this feature.

• In Firefox with multi-process enabled, browse mode and editable text fields now function correctly.
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6380
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 12:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] a good news for people who want use previous versions of nvda with firefox 50!

hello every one.
today i downloaded firefox 50 to test it with previous versions of nvda.
i searched more than 40 minutes to find the emails about regression in firefox 50 using nvda and eventually found it!
i remember that the issue is about typing address bar.
when typing address bar and delete the last character, nvda announces all characters except deleted one!
and when we want to navigate between letters of address with left and right arrow keys, nvda says navigation toolbar before the focused character!
today, i found a solution for it!
type in address bar
about:config
press enter and accept the warning about your work.
in the search bar, type
browser.urlbar.autocomplete.enabled
press enter on it to set it to false.
because the default value is true.
now, you can use firefox 50 with any versions of nvda that you want easily!
but if you want to be upto date and always use the latest versions of firefox, after release of firefox 51 in almost two weeks later, you need to install nvda 2016.4 and later versions because multiprocess is nos enabled for accessibility in firefox 51 and later.
for this reason, nvda 2016.4 and newer support this feature.

• In Firefox with multi-process enabled, browse mode and editable text fields now function correctly.
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6380
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org

hello every one.
today i downloaded firefox 50 to test it with previous versions of nvda.
i searched more than 40 minutes to find the emails about regression in
firefox 50 using nvda and eventually found it!
i remember that the issue is about typing address bar.
when typing address bar and delete the last character, nvda announces
all characters except deleted one!
and when we want to navigate between letters of address with left and
right arrow keys, nvda says navigation toolbar before the focused
character!
today, i found a solution for it!
type in address bar
about:config
press enter and accept the warning about your work.
in the search bar, type
browser.urlbar.autocomplete.enabled
press enter on it to set it to false.
because the default value is true.
now, you can use firefox 50 with any versions of nvda that you want easily!
but if you want to be upto date and always use the latest versions of firefox,
after release of firefox 51 in almost two weeks later, you need to
install nvda 2016.4 and later versions because multiprocess is nos
enabled for accessibility in firefox 51 and later.
for this reason, nvda 2016.4 and newer support this feature.

• In Firefox with multi-process enabled, browse mode and editable text
fields now function correctly.
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6380
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

Gentlemen, have a look at the Logitech K780 Setup Guide (which I'm presuming will be accessible with a screen reader, and the information I'm about to mention is in tables), paying particular attention to PDF page 7 (6, too, but after looking at 7), where it discusses that many of the keys you're mentioning are a 2-key press because this keyboard is both compact and set up such that it can be used with Windows, Mac, and Android and the 2-key presses to get, say INSERT if you're connected to Windows and the keyboard has been told this, will get something else if you are connected to either Mac or Android and the appropriate "switch computer context" keystroke has been issued to allow the keyboard to know it's connected to a different OS that needs certain keys to be interpreted differently.

This probably isn't the best keyboard if you are working exclusively with one computing environment because of the 2-key presses needed because of its context switching capabilities.  It's really handy, though, if you want to be able to connect either via Bluetooth or their "unifying dongle" to devices sporting diverse OS-es and to be able to reconfigure the keyboard accordingly at "the flip of a switch" (actually, the press of a flip sequence).

Brian

On 9/01/2017 8:27 a.m., Travis Siegel wrote:

I've oticed (especially with thunderbird) that when the program is busy,
NVDA defaults to the desktop instead of the application. Sometimes, I'll
get notifications that a particular program isn't responding, though I
have no idea what triggers these messages, since sometimes, these
messages show up after only a second or two after telling the program in
question to do something. It's likely the double speak is happening
when the program is busy, and NVDA simply reads the title of the window
again, as it flashes or something, to let the sighted user know it's not
locked up, just busy.


On 1/7/2017 4:44 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:

That is true of course. I have noticed though that often if for
example some high load task is happening or the machine is quite slow
like a single core machine that it normally repeats the program title
at least twice but until some seconds after the final repetition the
program is not usable, indeed trying to do so can move one back to the
desktop.

On a fast say four core machine, this only happens when a windows
update is installing or dropbox is busy doing an update as both of
these things pinch a lot of processor time and memory access time.
If the effect goes on all the time I'd also expect huge lags in the
file list scrolling in explorer, which is another process that gives
away the fact that something is running slowly.
Might be an idea if its a fast machine to check the idle speed
settings in windows for the processor. These, on some laptops seem to
be set very low and do not rise it seems as quickly as one might wish
when the system gets loaded. You can customise the idle speed of the
processor in a scheme and I always go for 100 percent if its a desktop.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Repetition.


I don't think that is what is being described. Evidently, when a
program opens, the name of the program is repeated a number of times
before the program can be worked with. My question, and noone may
know, is if this makes any practical difference. In other words, even
if the name of the program weren't repeated a number of times, the
program might still not be able to be worked with for the same period
of time or about the same period even if this repetition didn't occur.

In other words, we don't know if this repetition occurs while the
program is opening or after it has opened.
Gene
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From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 9:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Repetition.


Well sometimes this happens if the bit which is focussed refreshes.
For example, when I see items load into the system tray, but focus is
on a
desktop item, every time there is a new item in the tray, the desktop
item
is read again.
For example, when dropbox or google drive start it can take a while for
their icon to appear in the tray, so if documents or computer is
highlighted, it says it again each time the tray updates.
I notice it on windows 7 and ten, but do not have 8
On the other hand I do have a laptop running xp which when it shuts down
has the falling tones of nvda twice.
The reason for that one eludes me.

So the answer for you is to discover why the desktop or whatever the item
is, maybe the program window title, is refreshed more than once. some
programs do this all the time, speed fan being a case in point.
However not
seen it on firefox I've not tried the 64 bit version, but of course
if the
machine has toolbars and add ons in the browser its quite likely as
each is
initialised it repeats much in the same way as the download library
does
if its open when a download is in progress.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "CJ" <cj@azabat.org.uk>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 2:50 PM
Subject: [nvda] Repetition.

Hello,

after my old Windows 7 Machine gave up the ghost I had the fortune to
have a spare laptop to hand running on Windows 8.1. This seems to work
quite well apart from when I select a programme, say either Firefox or
Thunderbird. I can access these programmes well enough but for reasons I
do not fully understand when selecting say Thunderbird it will repeat
Thunderbird 4 times before shutting up and allowing me to start using
the selected option. I assume that I have made an error when setting
this machine up and am at a loss as to what setting is causing this
repetition problem. If anybody has experienced similar problems along
similar lines to my experience could somebody please advise me how they
rectified this problem or what I have got wrong? Any suggestions and
advice would be most welcome. Thank you, regards, CJ.

On 1/7/2017 4:53 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:

Actually, and this is a very broad statement. Normally a standard driver in windows can be used rather than the bespoke one that comes with the printer. It can, then in the main be all done through windows with no need for the special software at all. Of course things like toner low warnings and the like could get missed, but one might hope that in the main the basics are configurable from windows, otherwise how would any software use the printer if it needed some settings to be altered?

I do feel that manufacturers are being a bit daft when they only give instructions on how to do things from the touch screen, when in reality in most cases there are other ways.

Having said that though, the ones to watch for awkwardness ar those which operate on the network directly, either using wifi or wired. My experience has been that a good old usb printer plugged into a computer gives far fewer grey hairs to the operator be they sighted or not!

After all any old pc running windows 7 cast off from a friend can be used as a server on the network which is now what I do with my hp.

I think there are still printers out there which do not have lcd or touch screens so go for one of those, but you can still find any additional software is very patchy access wise.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "MistyDBradley@gmail.com" <mistydbradley@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 4:36 PM
Subject: [nvda] All in one laser printers that work with NVDA


Hi everyone,
I am currently looking for an all in one laser printer. I purchased a printer a few months ago, but it is not accessible and requires you to do everything through the LCD screen and the menus. Even the software to install it onto my computer is not accessible, so I cannot even use it with my computer. Does anyone know of an all in one laser printer that is accessible? I don't mind if I can't use the functions on the printer it's self, but as long as I can install it on my computer and use it that way, that would be great. I would like it also to be capable of wireless printing with my iPhone, but but it doesn't have to have that capability. I just need an accessible printer that will work with NVDA and that is a laser all in one that does both scanning and printing.
Thank you,


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On 1/7/2017 4:44 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:

That is true of course. I have noticed though that often if for example some high load task is happening or the machine is quite slow like a single core machine that it normally repeats the program title at least twice but until some seconds after the final repetition the program is not usable, indeed trying to do so can move one back to the desktop.

On a fast say four core machine, this only happens when a windows update is installing or dropbox is busy doing an update as both of these things pinch a lot of processor time and memory access time.
If the effect goes on all the time I'd also expect huge lags in the file list scrolling in explorer, which is another process that gives away the fact that something is running slowly.
Might be an idea if its a fast machine to check the idle speed settings in windows for the processor. These, on some laptops seem to be set very low and do not rise it seems as quickly as one might wish when the system gets loaded. You can customise the idle speed of the processor in a scheme and I always go for 100 percent if its a desktop.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Repetition.


I don't think that is what is being described. Evidently, when a program opens, the name of the program is repeated a number of times before the program can be worked with. My question, and noone may know, is if this makes any practical difference. In other words, even if the name of the program weren't repeated a number of times, the program might still not be able to be worked with for the same period of time or about the same period even if this repetition didn't occur.

In other words, we don't know if this repetition occurs while the program is opening or after it has opened.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 9:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Repetition.


Well sometimes this happens if the bit which is focussed refreshes.
For example, when I see items load into the system tray, but focus is on a
desktop item, every time there is a new item in the tray, the desktop item
is read again.
For example, when dropbox or google drive start it can take a while for
their icon to appear in the tray, so if documents or computer is
highlighted, it says it again each time the tray updates.
I notice it on windows 7 and ten, but do not have 8
On the other hand I do have a laptop running xp which when it shuts down
has the falling tones of nvda twice.
The reason for that one eludes me.

So the answer for you is to discover why the desktop or whatever the item
is, maybe the program window title, is refreshed more than once. some
programs do this all the time, speed fan being a case in point. However not
seen it on firefox I've not tried the 64 bit version, but of course if the
machine has toolbars and add ons in the browser its quite likely as each is
initialised it repeats much in the same way as the download library does
if its open when a download is in progress.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "CJ" <cj@azabat.org.uk>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 2:50 PM
Subject: [nvda] Repetition.

Hello,

after my old Windows 7 Machine gave up the ghost I had the fortune to
have a spare laptop to hand running on Windows 8.1. This seems to work
quite well apart from when I select a programme, say either Firefox or
Thunderbird. I can access these programmes well enough but for reasons I
do not fully understand when selecting say Thunderbird it will repeat
Thunderbird 4 times before shutting up and allowing me to start using
the selected option. I assume that I have made an error when setting
this machine up and am at a loss as to what setting is causing this
repetition problem. If anybody has experienced similar problems along
similar lines to my experience could somebody please advise me how they
rectified this problem or what I have got wrong? Any suggestions and
advice would be most welcome. Thank you, regards, CJ.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shawn Bever" <shawn.bever@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and desktop keyboards without Home and End keys

Hi Brian,


Yes, the keyboard has a full numeric keypad, it's the Logitech K780.
Question is, how do I get these to behave as Home, End, Page up and so
on for editing functions instead of behaving as NVDA navigating commands?


Shawn

On 1/4/2017 8:22 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Shawn,

Did this keyboard also not have a numeric keypad? On most
keyboards, including some full sized ones, where there is no 6-pack of
"hard keys" for the functions you name these are a standard feature on
the numeric keypad when number lock is off. The general configuration
is zero - insert, decimal point - delete, one - end, three - page
down, seven - home, and nine- page up. two four six and eight are the
down, left, up, and right arrow functions, respectively.

A great many regular desktop keyboards work this way, most,
I'd say.

Brian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Casey" <cwollner@wi.rr.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Repetition.

hi how do you adjust that processor speed on a desktop computer?
What I mean is where do you go and find this on your system and can someone do this on there own or do they have to have someone that knows what they are doing go in and adjust the processor speed?


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Casey