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Re: whats new in 2017.1:

 

thanks quentin.
could you please explane me a brief discription of the new features?
what the changes and new features about in general?

On 1/13/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
Hi Nasrin,

2017.1 isn't out yet so there's no what's new just yet. If you are really
interested though, you are always welcome to try the snapshot builds. They
are mostly to test new features before they make it to the next stable
build. The "Master" builds can be considered beta quality - features
should mostly work but there might be bugs. The "Next" builds are alpha
quality - they have quite new code which may not have been tested much at
all and may produce unexpected results.

The snapshot builds are available from:
http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/



On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 5:47 PM, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
wrote:

hi joseph.
could you please send me whats new of 2017.1 in my email address?
thanks so much.

On 1/13/17, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
Hi,

So many under development at this time. There is a major showstopper in
latest Windows 10 preview builds that prevents certain features from
working
as advertised in newer Windows 10 builds.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Kenny
Peyattt jr.
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 4:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] whats new in 2017.1:



Hi I wonder what features will be in 2017.1?

Kenny Peyatt jr.



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Re: whats new in 2017.1:

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Nasrin,

2017.1 isn't out yet so there's no what's new just yet.  If you are really interested though, you are always welcome to try the snapshot builds.  They are mostly to test new features before they make it to the next stable build.  The "Master" builds can be considered beta quality - features should mostly work but there might be bugs.  The "Next" builds are alpha quality - they have quite new code which may not have been tested much at all and may produce unexpected results.

The snapshot builds are available from: http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/



On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 5:47 PM, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hi joseph.
could you please send me whats new of 2017.1 in my email address?
thanks so much.

On 1/13/17, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> So many under development at this time. There is a major showstopper in
> latest Windows 10 preview builds that prevents certain features from working
> as advertised in newer Windows 10 builds.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joseph
>
>
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kenny
> Peyattt jr.
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 4:41 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] whats new in 2017.1:
>
>
>
> Hi I wonder what features will be in 2017.1?
>
> Kenny Peyatt jr.
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows
> 10
>
>
>
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Re: having problem to use one of Baum braille displays by NVDA

Arno Schuh
 

No chance! The Braille displays from Frank Audiodata came with its own driver and protokol.

Arno
Frank Audiodata no longer exists, and Baum didnt support the old hardware from Frank Audiodata. It's a pity!

Am Mittwoch, 11. Januar 2017 19:50 schrieb داریوش جوادی <dariush.javadi2000@...>:

hi, I am Dariush Javadi. I have a Baum braille display (Frank
Audio-Data bk2-40). I want to use it by NVDA, but NVDA doesn’t
support it. It's an old version of Baum braille displays and work by
Jaws properly. Also it support windows 32 bit and lower. help me
pleas. Thanks a lot.


Re: OCR software?

 

hi every one.
i also have a question.
how can i open my usual pdf files with firefox and convert them into txt format?
or even read them by firefox as pdf?
i realy appreciate your help.

On 1/13/17, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:
Oh, I don't have any intention of buying it. I was just wonderring if it
even still existed and was actively being still developed. It was more just
a question out of curiosity. Sorry for the confusion.

Chris.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software?


Unless Text Cloner has improved considerably since I tested it many years
ago, it isn't nearly as accurate as something like Fine Reader. Anyone
considering purchasing it will, I hope do real comparisons of the Fine
Reader demo and Text Cloner.

Gene
----- Original Message -----


From: Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 9:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software?


Groovy. thanks for that.

Chris.

----- Original Message -----
From: David Goldfield
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software?


Here's the link for Text Cloner Pro.

http://www.premierathome.com/products/TextClonerPro-features.php


David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.InfoOn 1/12/2017 9:16 PM, David Tanner wrote:

Actually it is still around and is now called text Kleiner pro and the
price is $99 it's not too bad but it could be better.

David Tanner


From my iPhone 7

On Jan 12, 2017, at 7:05 PM, Life My Way via Groups.Io
<lifemyway@...> wrote:


from what i know it is still around




On 1/12/2017 5:58 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

I wonder if the software called "Text Cloner" is still around. For
what it was/did, that was a cool little program!

Chris.

----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Vogel
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software?


One of the things I'm having trouble understanding here is the
context or contexts for the OCR processing being discussed:

1.. At the time of scanning an actual print document on a
flatbed or feeder scanner.
2.. In an existing document, such as an image scanned PDF or
an actual image itself that is known to be an image of a page of text.
3.. "On the fly" in something that's an image being presented
in, say, a web browser that one would like to have read.
Virtually any relatively recent, and by that I do not mean new,
scanner or multi-function machine will come with an OCR engine as part of
its manufacturers software suite. Canon, HP, Kodak, and other
multi-function machines I've worked with were all able to scan with OCR as
part of the scan and, as it happened, their scanner control software was
also accessible by screen reader. I've been using Canon's multi-functions
for years now, and even the cheapest one (read: cost about $30 ten years
ago) had a software suite included with it that featured OCR as an integral
part of scanning if one identified what one was scanning as a document.

I've repeatedly mentioned that Tracker Software makes two
excellent free pieces of software that, while not 100% accessible, are 100%
accessible for doing OCR processing on image PDFs with a remarkable level of
accuracy and that also feature free language packs if you're not scanning
documents in English. See either PDF-XChange Viewer or PDF-XChange Editor.

The "on the fly" instance is one where I don't know of anything
off the top of my head.

--
Brian

He discloses the workings of a mind to which incoherence lends
an illusion of profundity.

~ T. De Vere White











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al-islam.org


Re: Quick Survey

 

hi.
i completed your survey but i did not recieve your second survey in my
email address.

On 1/13/17, Bill Dengler <codeofdusk@...> wrote:
Hello,

If you're blind or visually impaired, please take this quick survey on
reading media. It's part of an internal assessment for my math class.
Thanks
in advance for your time!
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSenMpU1_la7wr3pq_OMIiFFiHhPTJTKYw22
P0TBs0ww4kfp2w/viewform



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Re: Question/Will NVDA Ever Have a Digits/Full Numbers Toggle?

Gene
 

I tried a good while ago, to get the NVDA developers to make reversion to object navigation occur when the user changed from the program he is in to another window.  It was not done and I'm not sure the need for it was properly understood. 
That's one reason I continue to use an old version of NVDA where reversion from flat review is automatic.  Screen review is not proper to be left on.  It makes read current line and other review functions not necessarily track where you actually are and, of course, that is how it should work.  It's a screen review feature.  But it is going to cause confusion because most people won't know why their screen review commands suchh as read current line, don't work properly and sometimes they do. 
 
Maybe you will have more luck than I did if you wish to pursue this.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 12:28 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question/Will NVDA Ever Have a Digits/Full Numbers Toggle?

Hi Gene,


If you should accidentally have review cursor set to screen review, you will have to change the review cursor to object review. This happens to me a lot when I move rapidly from program to program or window to window.  Then when I go back to a document or web page and I want to stop and spell something, I have to make sure I am in object review.



On 1/12/2017 9:31 PM, Gene wrote:
You don't have to highlight anything.  If you move the application cursor to a number and you are using object for review, the review will be where the application cursor is. If it is at the beginning or anywhere in a number, pressing f5 twice will cause the number to be read as digits.  If you are anywhere in a word, the word will be spelled.  If you move the numpad review independently of the application cursor with review commands, then anything you move to will be read with numpad 5 such as a word, again spelled, or a number, read as digits. 
 
Gene 

Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question/Will NVDA Ever Have a Digits/Full Numbers Toggle?

Hi Group,


In essence--at least with editors such as Notepad MS Word and probably a
lot more, if you use the numpad in the proper review mode and highlight
a large number and press the numpad 5 key twice, NVDA will read the
number by individual digit.


As far as the read all or read to end feature, I guess it's up to the
developers.




On 1/12/2017 8:09 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> Yes, no, no, and depends:
> * Yes for next (alpha quality) snapshot builds.
> * No for master (perpetual beta) snapshots.
> * No for 2016.4.
> * For 2017.1, depends.
> There is a member of this forum who has worked on this feature and might be able to explain what's going on (it isn't me).
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Goldfield
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 5:04 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Question/Will NVDA Ever Have a Digits/Full Numbers Toggle?
>
> Hi. I'm wondering if NVDA will ever possess a toggle to switch from the speaking of full numbers to single digits.
>
>

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Re: whats new in 2017.1:

 

hi joseph.
could you please send me whats new of 2017.1 in my email address?
thanks so much.

On 1/13/17, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
Hi,

So many under development at this time. There is a major showstopper in
latest Windows 10 preview builds that prevents certain features from working
as advertised in newer Windows 10 builds.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kenny
Peyattt jr.
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 4:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] whats new in 2017.1:



Hi I wonder what features will be in 2017.1?

Kenny Peyatt jr.



Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
10





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imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: Question/Will NVDA Ever Have a Digits/Full Numbers Toggle?

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Gene,


If you should accidentally have review cursor set to screen review, you will have to change the review cursor to object review. This happens to me a lot when I move rapidly from program to program or window to window.  Then when I go back to a document or web page and I want to stop and spell something, I have to make sure I am in object review.



On 1/12/2017 9:31 PM, Gene wrote:
You don't have to highlight anything.  If you move the application cursor to a number and you are using object for review, the review will be where the application cursor is. If it is at the beginning or anywhere in a number, pressing f5 twice will cause the number to be read as digits.  If you are anywhere in a word, the word will be spelled.  If you move the numpad review independently of the application cursor with review commands, then anything you move to will be read with numpad 5 such as a word, again spelled, or a number, read as digits. 
 
Gene 

Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question/Will NVDA Ever Have a Digits/Full Numbers Toggle?

Hi Group,


In essence--at least with editors such as Notepad MS Word and probably a
lot more, if you use the numpad in the proper review mode and highlight
a large number and press the numpad 5 key twice, NVDA will read the
number by individual digit.


As far as the read all or read to end feature, I guess it's up to the
developers.




On 1/12/2017 8:09 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> Yes, no, no, and depends:
> * Yes for next (alpha quality) snapshot builds.
> * No for master (perpetual beta) snapshots.
> * No for 2016.4.
> * For 2017.1, depends.
> There is a member of this forum who has worked on this feature and might be able to explain what's going on (it isn't me).
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Goldfield
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 5:04 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Question/Will NVDA Ever Have a Digits/Full Numbers Toggle?
>
> Hi. I'm wondering if NVDA will ever possess a toggle to switch from the speaking of full numbers to single digits.
>
>

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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Question/Will NVDA Ever Have a Digits/Full Numbers Toggle?

Jacob Kruger
 

There should already be a form of a way to handle this if you really want to. Just add the numbers as digits dictionary entry under a specific voice, and, switch between it and another voice without the dictionary entry to alternate.


In other words, if you don't include the numbers as digits dictionary entry under the default dictionary, but, only under a specific voice, then this could work?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2017-01-13 04:31, Gene wrote:

You don't have to highlight anything.  If you move the application cursor to a number and you are using object for review, the review will be where the application cursor is. If it is at the beginning or anywhere in a number, pressing f5 twice will cause the number to be read as digits.  If you are anywhere in a word, the word will be spelled.  If you move the numpad review independently of the application cursor with review commands, then anything you move to will be read with numpad 5 such as a word, again spelled, or a number, read as digits. 
 
Gene 

Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question/Will NVDA Ever Have a Digits/Full Numbers Toggle?

Hi Group,


In essence--at least with editors such as Notepad MS Word and probably a
lot more, if you use the numpad in the proper review mode and highlight
a large number and press the numpad 5 key twice, NVDA will read the
number by individual digit.


As far as the read all or read to end feature, I guess it's up to the
developers.




On 1/12/2017 8:09 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> Yes, no, no, and depends:
> * Yes for next (alpha quality) snapshot builds.
> * No for master (perpetual beta) snapshots.
> * No for 2016.4.
> * For 2017.1, depends.
> There is a member of this forum who has worked on this feature and might be able to explain what's going on (it isn't me).
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Goldfield
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 5:04 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Question/Will NVDA Ever Have a Digits/Full Numbers Toggle?
>
> Hi. I'm wondering if NVDA will ever possess a toggle to switch from the speaking of full numbers to single digits.
>
>

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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
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Re: OCR software?

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


Oh, I don't have any intention of buying it. I was just wonderring if it even still existed and was actively being still developed. It was more just a question out of curiosity. Sorry for the confusion.
 
Chris.
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software?

Unless Text Cloner has improved considerably since I tested it many years ago, it isn't nearly as accurate as something like Fine Reader.  Anyone considering purchasing it will, I hope do real comparisons of the Fine Reader demo and Text Cloner. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software?

Groovy. thanks for that.
 
Chris.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software?

Here's the link for Text Cloner Pro.

http://www.premierathome.com/products/TextClonerPro-features.php

          David Goldfield,
      Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info
On 1/12/2017 9:16 PM, David Tanner wrote:
Actually it is still around and is now called text Kleiner pro and the price is $99 it's not too bad but it could be better.

David Tanner

From my iPhone 7

On Jan 12, 2017, at 7:05 PM, Life My Way via Groups.Io <lifemyway@...> wrote:

from what i know it is still around


On 1/12/2017 5:58 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
I wonder if the software called "Text Cloner" is still around. For what it was/did, that was a cool little program!
 
Chris.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software?

One of the things I'm having trouble understanding here is the context or contexts for the OCR processing being discussed:

  1. At the time of scanning an actual print document on a flatbed or feeder scanner.
  2. In an existing document, such as an image scanned PDF or an actual image itself that is known to be an image of a page of text.
  3. "On the fly" in something that's an image being presented in, say, a web browser that one would like to have read.

Virtually any relatively recent, and by that I do not mean new, scanner or multi-function machine will come with an OCR engine as part of its manufacturers software suite.  Canon, HP, Kodak, and other multi-function machines I've worked with were all able to scan with OCR as part of the scan and, as it happened, their scanner control software was also accessible by screen reader.  I've been using Canon's multi-functions for years now, and even the cheapest one (read: cost about $30 ten years ago) had a software suite included with it that featured OCR as an integral part of scanning if one identified what one was scanning as a document.

I've repeatedly mentioned that Tracker Software makes two excellent free pieces of software that, while not 100% accessible, are 100% accessible for doing OCR processing on image PDFs with a remarkable level of accuracy and that also feature free language packs if you're not scanning documents in English.  See either PDF-XChange Viewer or PDF-XChange Editor.

The "on the fly" instance is one where I don't know of anything off the top of my head.

--
Brian

 He discloses the workings of a mind to which incoherence lends an illusion of profundity.

         ~ T. De Vere White

    





Re: OCR software?

Gene
 

Unless Text Cloner has improved considerably since I tested it many years ago, it isn't nearly as accurate as something like Fine Reader.  Anyone considering purchasing it will, I hope do real comparisons of the Fine Reader demo and Text Cloner. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software?

Groovy. thanks for that.
 
Chris.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software?

Here's the link for Text Cloner Pro.

http://www.premierathome.com/products/TextClonerPro-features.php

          David Goldfield,
      Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info
On 1/12/2017 9:16 PM, David Tanner wrote:
Actually it is still around and is now called text Kleiner pro and the price is $99 it's not too bad but it could be better.

David Tanner

From my iPhone 7

On Jan 12, 2017, at 7:05 PM, Life My Way via Groups.Io <lifemyway@...> wrote:

from what i know it is still around


On 1/12/2017 5:58 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
I wonder if the software called "Text Cloner" is still around. For what it was/did, that was a cool little program!
 
Chris.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software?

One of the things I'm having trouble understanding here is the context or contexts for the OCR processing being discussed:

  1. At the time of scanning an actual print document on a flatbed or feeder scanner.
  2. In an existing document, such as an image scanned PDF or an actual image itself that is known to be an image of a page of text.
  3. "On the fly" in something that's an image being presented in, say, a web browser that one would like to have read.

Virtually any relatively recent, and by that I do not mean new, scanner or multi-function machine will come with an OCR engine as part of its manufacturers software suite.  Canon, HP, Kodak, and other multi-function machines I've worked with were all able to scan with OCR as part of the scan and, as it happened, their scanner control software was also accessible by screen reader.  I've been using Canon's multi-functions for years now, and even the cheapest one (read: cost about $30 ten years ago) had a software suite included with it that featured OCR as an integral part of scanning if one identified what one was scanning as a document.

I've repeatedly mentioned that Tracker Software makes two excellent free pieces of software that, while not 100% accessible, are 100% accessible for doing OCR processing on image PDFs with a remarkable level of accuracy and that also feature free language packs if you're not scanning documents in English.  See either PDF-XChange Viewer or PDF-XChange Editor.

The "on the fly" instance is one where I don't know of anything off the top of my head.

--
Brian

 He discloses the workings of a mind to which incoherence lends an illusion of profundity.

         ~ T. De Vere White

    





Re: OCR software?

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


Groovy. thanks for that.
 
Chris.
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software?

Here's the link for Text Cloner Pro.

http://www.premierathome.com/products/TextClonerPro-features.php

          David Goldfield,
      Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info
On 1/12/2017 9:16 PM, David Tanner wrote:
Actually it is still around and is now called text Kleiner pro and the price is $99 it's not too bad but it could be better.

David Tanner

From my iPhone 7

On Jan 12, 2017, at 7:05 PM, Life My Way via Groups.Io <lifemyway@...> wrote:

from what i know it is still around


On 1/12/2017 5:58 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
I wonder if the software called "Text Cloner" is still around. For what it was/did, that was a cool little program!
 
Chris.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software?

One of the things I'm having trouble understanding here is the context or contexts for the OCR processing being discussed:

  1. At the time of scanning an actual print document on a flatbed or feeder scanner.
  2. In an existing document, such as an image scanned PDF or an actual image itself that is known to be an image of a page of text.
  3. "On the fly" in something that's an image being presented in, say, a web browser that one would like to have read.

Virtually any relatively recent, and by that I do not mean new, scanner or multi-function machine will come with an OCR engine as part of its manufacturers software suite.  Canon, HP, Kodak, and other multi-function machines I've worked with were all able to scan with OCR as part of the scan and, as it happened, their scanner control software was also accessible by screen reader.  I've been using Canon's multi-functions for years now, and even the cheapest one (read: cost about $30 ten years ago) had a software suite included with it that featured OCR as an integral part of scanning if one identified what one was scanning as a document.

I've repeatedly mentioned that Tracker Software makes two excellent free pieces of software that, while not 100% accessible, are 100% accessible for doing OCR processing on image PDFs with a remarkable level of accuracy and that also feature free language packs if you're not scanning documents in English.  See either PDF-XChange Viewer or PDF-XChange Editor.

The "on the fly" instance is one where I don't know of anything off the top of my head.

--
Brian

 He discloses the workings of a mind to which incoherence lends an illusion of profundity.

         ~ T. De Vere White

    





Re: Accessible Internet Speed Test

Kevin Chao
 

https://fast.com/ from Netflix is what I use and find it to be clean and accessible


On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 2:20 PM Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hello, It does! It tells you your ip address and your provider. For example Concast. Or whatever you use.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kostadin Kolev
Sent: January-12-17 11:52 AM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Internet Speed Test

 

Hello,

Actually, I think it gives you that information too: The name of your internet service provider and your IP address - they appear one after the other. Just read the information after the link labeled "Again" after the test is done. It starts with the name and location of the server used to do the testing (the end point) - they are links. After that is the name of your internet service provider and after that - your IP address. Then there is some sort of rating information. After that are the results of your internet speed test.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

 

На 12.1.2017 г. в 21:04, Brandon Keith Biggs написа:

Hello,

It worked great for me! Thank you!

I would like it if it gave more information like your IP address and whatnot as well, but currently I got all I needed.

Thanks,


 

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi there: Does this work for all internet isps?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kostadin Kolev
Sent: January-12-17 10:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Internet Speed Test

 

Hello,

Go to:

http://beta.speedtest.net

This is beta, but it is good enough. It is based on HTML5 technology, if I'm not mistaking. Find the link labeled "GO!" and activate it. The internet speed test will start. You'll be notified when it is completed and the results from it. But you can manually read the results on the page - find the link labeled "Again" and read the information after it - it contains the test results.

Note, that if you are using Firefox for the testing, NVDA may get a lot chatty during the test and repeat that the test is over 50% completed a lot of times. Use Internet Explorer to do the testing if you don't want to hear all that chattiness - it does not occur in it. Hmm, could this chattiness be a Firefox issue? Maybe we should report it?

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

 

На 12.1.2017 г. в 19:15, Brandon Keith Biggs написа:

Hello,

Does anyone know of an accessible internet speed test? Most of the speed tests I have found only show speeds in a flash frame.

Thanks,

 

 

 


Re: OCR software?

David Goldfield
 

Here's the link for Text Cloner Pro.

http://www.premierathome.com/products/TextClonerPro-features.php

          David Goldfield,
      Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info
On 1/12/2017 9:16 PM, David Tanner wrote:

Actually it is still around and is now called text Kleiner pro and the price is $99 it's not too bad but it could be better.

David Tanner

From my iPhone 7

On Jan 12, 2017, at 7:05 PM, Life My Way via Groups.Io <lifemyway@...> wrote:

from what i know it is still around


On 1/12/2017 5:58 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
I wonder if the software called "Text Cloner" is still around. For what it was/did, that was a cool little program!
 
Chris.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software?

One of the things I'm having trouble understanding here is the context or contexts for the OCR processing being discussed:

  1. At the time of scanning an actual print document on a flatbed or feeder scanner.
  2. In an existing document, such as an image scanned PDF or an actual image itself that is known to be an image of a page of text.
  3. "On the fly" in something that's an image being presented in, say, a web browser that one would like to have read.

Virtually any relatively recent, and by that I do not mean new, scanner or multi-function machine will come with an OCR engine as part of its manufacturers software suite.  Canon, HP, Kodak, and other multi-function machines I've worked with were all able to scan with OCR as part of the scan and, as it happened, their scanner control software was also accessible by screen reader.  I've been using Canon's multi-functions for years now, and even the cheapest one (read: cost about $30 ten years ago) had a software suite included with it that featured OCR as an integral part of scanning if one identified what one was scanning as a document.

I've repeatedly mentioned that Tracker Software makes two excellent free pieces of software that, while not 100% accessible, are 100% accessible for doing OCR processing on image PDFs with a remarkable level of accuracy and that also feature free language packs if you're not scanning documents in English.  See either PDF-XChange Viewer or PDF-XChange Editor.

The "on the fly" instance is one where I don't know of anything off the top of my head.

--
Brian

 He discloses the workings of a mind to which incoherence lends an illusion of profundity.

         ~ T. De Vere White

    





Re: Question/Will NVDA Ever Have a Digits/Full Numbers Toggle?

Gene
 

You don't have to highlight anything.  If you move the application cursor to a number and you are using object for review, the review will be where the application cursor is. If it is at the beginning or anywhere in a number, pressing f5 twice will cause the number to be read as digits.  If you are anywhere in a word, the word will be spelled.  If you move the numpad review independently of the application cursor with review commands, then anything you move to will be read with numpad 5 such as a word, again spelled, or a number, read as digits. 
 
Gene 

Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question/Will NVDA Ever Have a Digits/Full Numbers Toggle?

Hi Group,


In essence--at least with editors such as Notepad MS Word and probably a
lot more, if you use the numpad in the proper review mode and highlight
a large number and press the numpad 5 key twice, NVDA will read the
number by individual digit.


As far as the read all or read to end feature, I guess it's up to the
developers.




On 1/12/2017 8:09 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> Yes, no, no, and depends:
> * Yes for next (alpha quality) snapshot builds.
> * No for master (perpetual beta) snapshots.
> * No for 2016.4.
> * For 2017.1, depends.
> There is a member of this forum who has worked on this feature and might be able to explain what's going on (it isn't me).
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Goldfield
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 5:04 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Question/Will NVDA Ever Have a Digits/Full Numbers Toggle?
>
> Hi. I'm wondering if NVDA will ever possess a toggle to switch from the speaking of full numbers to single digits.
>
>

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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"




Re: OCR software?

David Tanner
 

Actually it is still around and is now called text Kleiner pro and the price is $99 it's not too bad but it could be better.

David Tanner

From my iPhone 7

On Jan 12, 2017, at 7:05 PM, Life My Way via Groups.Io <lifemyway@...> wrote:

from what i know it is still around


On 1/12/2017 5:58 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
I wonder if the software called "Text Cloner" is still around. For what it was/did, that was a cool little program!
 
Chris.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software?

One of the things I'm having trouble understanding here is the context or contexts for the OCR processing being discussed:

  1. At the time of scanning an actual print document on a flatbed or feeder scanner.
  2. In an existing document, such as an image scanned PDF or an actual image itself that is known to be an image of a page of text.
  3. "On the fly" in something that's an image being presented in, say, a web browser that one would like to have read.

Virtually any relatively recent, and by that I do not mean new, scanner or multi-function machine will come with an OCR engine as part of its manufacturers software suite.  Canon, HP, Kodak, and other multi-function machines I've worked with were all able to scan with OCR as part of the scan and, as it happened, their scanner control software was also accessible by screen reader.  I've been using Canon's multi-functions for years now, and even the cheapest one (read: cost about $30 ten years ago) had a software suite included with it that featured OCR as an integral part of scanning if one identified what one was scanning as a document.

I've repeatedly mentioned that Tracker Software makes two excellent free pieces of software that, while not 100% accessible, are 100% accessible for doing OCR processing on image PDFs with a remarkable level of accuracy and that also feature free language packs if you're not scanning documents in English.  See either PDF-XChange Viewer or PDF-XChange Editor.

The "on the fly" instance is one where I don't know of anything off the top of my head.

--
Brian

 He discloses the workings of a mind to which incoherence lends an illusion of profundity.

         ~ T. De Vere White

    




Auto change language

coscell@...
 

Hi,

How can we perform the Automatic language switching function in wordpad.
Could someone provide the tesing steps? Thanks!


Re: Question/Will NVDA Ever Have a Digits/Full Numbers Toggle?

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,


In essence--at least with editors such as Notepad MS Word and probably a lot more, if you use the numpad in the proper review mode and highlight a large number and press the numpad 5 key twice, NVDA will read the number by individual digit.


As far as the read all or read to end feature, I guess it's up to the developers.

On 1/12/2017 8:09 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Yes, no, no, and depends:
* Yes for next (alpha quality) snapshot builds.
* No for master (perpetual beta) snapshots.
* No for 2016.4.
* For 2017.1, depends.
There is a member of this forum who has worked on this feature and might be able to explain what's going on (it isn't me).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 5:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Question/Will NVDA Ever Have a Digits/Full Numbers Toggle?

Hi. I'm wondering if NVDA will ever possess a toggle to switch from the speaking of full numbers to single digits.

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Question/Will NVDA Ever Have a Digits/Full Numbers Toggle?

 

Hi,
Yes, no, no, and depends:
* Yes for next (alpha quality) snapshot builds.
* No for master (perpetual beta) snapshots.
* No for 2016.4.
* For 2017.1, depends.
There is a member of this forum who has worked on this feature and might be able to explain what's going on (it isn't me).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 5:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Question/Will NVDA Ever Have a Digits/Full Numbers Toggle?

Hi. I'm wondering if NVDA will ever possess a toggle to switch from the speaking of full numbers to single digits.


--
David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info


Re: OCR software?

Life My Way
 

from what i know it is still around


On 1/12/2017 5:58 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
I wonder if the software called "Text Cloner" is still around. For what it was/did, that was a cool little program!
 
Chris.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software?

One of the things I'm having trouble understanding here is the context or contexts for the OCR processing being discussed:

  1. At the time of scanning an actual print document on a flatbed or feeder scanner.
  2. In an existing document, such as an image scanned PDF or an actual image itself that is known to be an image of a page of text.
  3. "On the fly" in something that's an image being presented in, say, a web browser that one would like to have read.

Virtually any relatively recent, and by that I do not mean new, scanner or multi-function machine will come with an OCR engine as part of its manufacturers software suite.  Canon, HP, Kodak, and other multi-function machines I've worked with were all able to scan with OCR as part of the scan and, as it happened, their scanner control software was also accessible by screen reader.  I've been using Canon's multi-functions for years now, and even the cheapest one (read: cost about $30 ten years ago) had a software suite included with it that featured OCR as an integral part of scanning if one identified what one was scanning as a document.

I've repeatedly mentioned that Tracker Software makes two excellent free pieces of software that, while not 100% accessible, are 100% accessible for doing OCR processing on image PDFs with a remarkable level of accuracy and that also feature free language packs if you're not scanning documents in English.  See either PDF-XChange Viewer or PDF-XChange Editor.

The "on the fly" instance is one where I don't know of anything off the top of my head.

--
Brian

 He discloses the workings of a mind to which incoherence lends an illusion of profundity.

         ~ T. De Vere White