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possible obj pad bug not sure

 

Hi.
Well I have been playing eurofly for some time.
if I kill nvda nice errrors come up, but as long as I don't kill it thats fine.
The reall issue happened a few days ago but got worst today.
I have obj pad, ventrilo which I use ffor testing but I have the beta addon well had because I now killed it and obj ppad.
I had a few extra security addons on firefox and such but even so that was not the big issue at alll.
I have easy table navigator installed to.
I had firefox, a downloads folder open, and an audio track playing with winamp.
I had just finished something with firefox 50.1 and closed it.
Sometimes it crashes but mostly its fine at any rate I had finished with it.
Nvda decided to be stuck in a table, this has happened before when quitting ventrilo but I have alt tab and its fine.
This time it decided to lock, a thing it has done in the past.
Half of the keys stopped working.
The first time I exited and it came back.
This time though, if I hit caps key and tab I was switching from scan to web to normal.
So I assume something was making objpad or nvda in general think it was in a strange mode.
No keys worked and I had to power off the computer and luckily it shut down.
When I mean no keys, nothing read right at all.
On a full reboot nvda now works but I have removed easy table nav, ventrilo, golden curser and objpad and hopefully things just work as they are supposed to.
It only works with that combination of things open.
It never happens if its one at a time though this game does use a lot of power.
I have used it before with winamp and firefox open, never large radio broadcast archives I usually pause the game for those.


Start menu search box missing

 

To all listers
My wife's laptop installed Windows 10, has lost the search box on start menu. How to solve this.
When I use NVDA, and press the Start menu key, it just says: pin view, and I can't type anything to search.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cuong
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Re: OCR software?

slery <slerythema@...>
 

Really? Please tell me where the OCR function is and how to access it in my HP Officejet 7500 E910.

 

I have not found this ocr function and the software that comes with the printer is not accessible. In fact, I bought a $27 program to scan into pdf my important files (using Kurzweil to keep the images scans prints them in a very reduced size to make them mostly unusable by sighted people).

 

Cindy

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 6:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software?

 

One of the things I'm having trouble understanding here is the context or contexts for the OCR processing being discussed:

  1. At the time of scanning an actual print document on a flatbed or feeder scanner.
  2. In an existing document, such as an image scanned PDF or an actual image itself that is known to be an image of a page of text.
  3. "On the fly" in something that's an image being presented in, say, a web browser that one would like to have read.

Virtually any relatively recent, and by that I do not mean new, scanner or multi-function machine will come with an OCR engine as part of its manufacturers software suite.  Canon, HP, Kodak, and other multi-function machines I've worked with were all able to scan with OCR as part of the scan and, as it happened, their scanner control software was also accessible by screen reader.  I've been using Canon's multi-functions for years now, and even the cheapest one (read: cost about $30 ten years ago) had a software suite included with it that featured OCR as an integral part of scanning if one identified what one was scanning as a document.

I've repeatedly mentioned that Tracker Software makes two excellent free pieces of software that, while not 100% accessible, are 100% accessible for doing OCR processing on image PDFs with a remarkable level of accuracy and that also feature free language packs if you're not scanning documents in English.  See either PDF-XChange Viewer or PDF-XChange Editor.

The "on the fly" instance is one where I don't know of anything off the top of my head.

--
Brian

 He discloses the workings of a mind to which incoherence lends an illusion of profundity.

         ~ T. De Vere White

    

 


Re: OCR software?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Nasrin,

I don't think you can convert a PDF file into text with notepad or notepad plus.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 8:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software?

hi rosemarie, brian and mk.
thanks for your help as always.
but i dont want to read them with my browsers.
i only wish that open my pdf file with firefox and convert it into txt for reading it with notepad++ unfortunately there is no any accessible pdf reader which can support persian language properly.
mk, may i ask which version of firefox has native pdf reader without need to install plugin?
since which version exactly, firefox supports pdf readeing by default without any plugin?
thanks again and God bless you!

On 1/14/17, mk360 <mk.seventhson@gmail.com> wrote:
The latest version of Firefox supports PDF natively. However, I agree
with you.


Regards,

mk.


El 14/01/2017 a las 14:00, Brian Vogel escribió:

nasrin,

I'm sorry, but I can't help you with what you want to do.
I can see no rational reason to do it, either, but that's your call.

There are so many PDF reading programs, many of which are
accessible, other than Adobe Reader or Adobe Acrobat that your time
would be much better spent finding a native PDF reading application
to suit your needs.

I do not know of a single web browser that does not use a
plug-in, even if it's written "in house," to open PDF files within
the browser. Web browsers are not and never have been true PDF
reading programs.
--
*/Brian/*

*//**/He discloses the workings of a mind to which incoherence
/**/lends an illusion of profundity./*

*/~ T. De Vere White/*



--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org


Re: accessible word processors with NVDA

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Jarte is free and has a spell checker. That's what I use for word processing.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sharni-Lee Ward
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 9:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA

Hi,


My computer's keyboard's been acting up, and I have my Mum's as a backup, but it doesn't have Microsoft Office on it, and I was wondering if there was a decent free word processor out there, accessible with NVDA, that I could install on that computer instead. It would be nice if it could read and edit .docx files, but I'm aware I can't have everything.


The most used features in Word for me are:

The Spellchecker, including a whole dictionary of words I've added so Pokémon names, anime characters' names and names I just made up don't get flagged;

The word-counter;

Page-breaks;

Headings (mostly for aesthetic reasons).

If there's something out there that does all these things, and is free and accessible, I'll be pretty happy with it.


Re: accessible word processors with NVDA

 

Firstly is your computer a laptop or desktop.
Have you tried replacing the keyboard.
For serious button mashing and tech work I use a blue cherry switch mechanical organic, the strix tactic pro from asus.
The macro software is utter junk so I don't get the macros or most of the media controls but the mute and volume controls work as well as the main board.
Its good for games like fps and rpgs, but also good for tech issues due to its long and strong durable cord.
From a visual perspective it apaarently lights up when powered and looks quite cool to.
If its the laptop, or any board itt could need cleaning, if its a laptop you can get them replaced, it cost me 120 bucks for a new laptop board.
Jarte is good as a processer.
One advantage I found with my laptop running with an external board with a cooling desk but sometimes even not the unit seems to run better during hot days without crashing.
Often I used to have major crashes and system issues using the unit even with a cooling desk fan active.
Every so often windows would mangle but a good reformat always fixed it.
After my board started busting due to my use and after a replacement I took it on myself as a present for birthday to get an external.
I did start with an logiteck kbd120d but upgraded to this.
ANd to be honest noticed the performance gains straight away.
You also don't have to push the keys down to hard to get a result.
So you can truely touch type and fast, I swear my typing speed has improved with this keyboard.

On 15/01/2017 6:18 p.m., Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
Hi,


My computer's keyboard's been acting up, and I have my Mum's as a
backup, but it doesn't have Microsoft Office on it, and I was wondering
if there was a decent free word processor out there, accessible with
NVDA, that I could install on that computer instead. It would be nice if
it could read and edit .docx files, but I'm aware I can't have everything.


The most used features in Word for me are:

The Spellchecker, including a whole dictionary of words I've added so
Pokémon names, anime characters' names and names I just made up don't
get flagged;

The word-counter;

Page-breaks;

Headings (mostly for aesthetic reasons).

If there's something out there that does all these things, and is free
and accessible, I'll be pretty happy with it.



accessible word processors with NVDA

Sharni-Lee Ward
 

Hi,


My computer's keyboard's been acting up, and I have my Mum's as a
backup, but it doesn't have Microsoft Office on it, and I was wondering
if there was a decent free word processor out there, accessible with
NVDA, that I could install on that computer instead. It would be nice if
it could read and edit .docx files, but I'm aware I can't have everything.


The most used features in Word for me are:

The Spellchecker, including a whole dictionary of words I've added so
Pokémon names, anime characters' names and names I just made up don't
get flagged;

The word-counter;

Page-breaks;

Headings (mostly for aesthetic reasons).

If there's something out there that does all these things, and is free
and accessible, I'll be pretty happy with it.


Re: OCR software?

 

hi rosemarie, brian and mk.
thanks for your help as always.
but i dont want to read them with my browsers.
i only wish that open my pdf file with firefox and convert it into txt
for reading it with notepad++
unfortunately there is no any accessible pdf reader which can support
persian language properly.
mk, may i ask which version of firefox has native pdf reader without
need to install plugin?
since which version exactly, firefox supports pdf readeing by default
without any plugin?
thanks again and God bless you!

On 1/14/17, mk360 <mk.seventhson@gmail.com> wrote:
The latest version of Firefox supports PDF natively. However, I agree
with you.


Regards,

mk.


El 14/01/2017 a las 14:00, Brian Vogel escribió:

nasrin,

I'm sorry, but I can't help you with what you want to do.
I can see no rational reason to do it, either, but that's your call.

There are so many PDF reading programs, many of which are
accessible, other than Adobe Reader or Adobe Acrobat that your time
would be much better spent finding a native PDF reading application to
suit your needs.

I do not know of a single web browser that does not use a
plug-in, even if it's written "in house," to open PDF files within the
browser. Web browsers are not and never have been true PDF reading
programs.
--
*/Brian/*

*//**/He discloses the workings of a mind to which incoherence
/**/lends an illusion of profundity./*

*/~ T. De Vere White/*


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: Returning from Sleep or Hybernation #addonrelease #adminnotice #cal-invite #cal-reminder

 

Also, since mouse tracking is on by default, even if you don't use the mouse or mouse pad routinely, all you need to do is randomly move the mouse around and NVDA will start talking if it's ready to speak.

On laptops I routinely tell my clients not to disable the mousepad, but to cover it with a small square of stiff cardboard taped down on one side so that it can be flipped open like a book.  This way they can use the native left and right mouse buttons if they so desire and, when someone sighted wants/needs to use their computer, the mouse feature is there at the flip of a piece of cardboard.  For those with desktop machines with an optical mouse one can do the same thing by covering the opening for the laser on the underside of the mouse.  This allows it to be used for "is NVDA awake" checking with ease and then you flip the cover over the laser and put the mouse back down again, which also gives you access to the native left and right mouse click buttons if you wish to use them.
--
Brian

 He discloses the workings of a mind to which incoherence lends an illusion of profundity.

         ~ T. De Vere White

    



Re: Returning from Sleep or Hybernation #addonrelease #adminnotice #cal-invite #cal-reminder

Gene
 

I use a command like read title or I might press up or down arrow if I want to know if the computer is ready.  While there is nothing wrong with something that would speak, doing something like issuing the NVDA key t command to see if you get a proper response is so easy that I question whether it's worth the time and effort to create an automatic announce add on.
 
Gene 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Returning from Sleep or Hybernation #addonrelease #adminnotice #addonrelease #adminnotice #cal-invite #cal-reminder #cal-invite #adminnotice

I have never had this issue at least on 7 nvda usually anounces the
desktop or something when it comes back.
Another thing I have done is play some music just before I hybernate and
then when it comes back I know.
I have never had any issues though, I never really hybernate unless I am
  running eurofly or need to be away for a little while only.
If I am away for a long time I tend to shut down the system entirely.



On 15/01/2017 4:06 a.m., Thomas Stivers wrote:
> All,
>
> I have my laptop set up to sleep when I close the lid while plugged in and hibernate when I close the lid on battery. This is working well as far as NVDA coming back when I return from sleep, but I would like a way to get a spoken announcement when the computer is ready to use after waking up.
>
> Before I start trying to put something together with an add-on for NVDA or an autoHotKey script I'd like to know if anyone else has solved this.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Thomas
>



Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 17.01 released

 

Hi,

Open Start, type “winver” (without quotes) and press ENTER. If you are hearing builds other than 1024, 10586 and 14393, you are running an Insider Preview build.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rémy Ruiz
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 11:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 17.01 released

 

Hi Josephe,
Thanks for jour job!
Sorry how to know if i am using  Windows Insider build?
For me Windows ten is new! :)
Thanks very much.
Cheers since France.
Rémy

Le 14/01/2017 18:08, Joseph Lee a écrit :

Hi everyone,

 

Windows 10 App Essentials 17.01 is now available:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/17.01

 

Important: if you are using Windows Insider build 15002 or later, please do NOT use this build – you should either use the latest development snapshot or wait until add-on 17.02 comes out. Also, this version is the last one to support NVDA 2016.3 or earlier.

Cheers,

Joseph

 


Re: Returning from Sleep or Hybernation #addonrelease #adminnotice #cal-invite #cal-reminder

Thomas Stivers
 

Thank you Joseph. Power Notifier is exactly what I am looking for. My apologies for all the hashtags. The combo box behaved *unexpectedly*.


Have a great day,


Thomas


Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 17.01 released

Rémy Ruiz
 

Hi Josephe,
Thanks for jour job!
Sorry how to know
if i am using  Windows Insider build?
For me Windows ten is new! :)
Thanks very much.
Cheers since France.
Rémy


Le 14/01/2017 18:08, Joseph Lee a écrit :

Hi everyone,

 

Windows 10 App Essentials 17.01 is now available:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/17.01

 

Important: if you are using Windows Insider build 15002 or later, please do NOT use this build – you should either use the latest development snapshot or wait until add-on 17.02 comes out. Also, this version is the last one to support NVDA 2016.3 or earlier.

Cheers,

Joseph



Re: Returning from Sleep or Hybernation #addonrelease #adminnotice #cal-invite #cal-reminder

 

I have my machine set to hibernate if I shut the cover and if I actually want to make it Sleep I simply do that via the power button first.

That being said, I never shut the cover and never shut down the machine when it's on AC power.  Particularly with the advent of Windows 10 and the active hours settings related to Windows Updates I want it running during my "inactive hours" so that it can do its thing then.  I have never made a habit of turning off a computer when it has AC power to it unless there is a specific reason to do so such as my being away on vacation for several weeks.


--
Brian

 He discloses the workings of a mind to which incoherence lends an illusion of profundity.

         ~ T. De Vere White

    



Re: Returning from Sleep or Hybernation #addonrelease #adminnotice #cal-invite #cal-reminder

 

I have never had this issue at least on 7 nvda usually anounces the desktop or something when it comes back.
Another thing I have done is play some music just before I hybernate and then when it comes back I know.
I have never had any issues though, I never really hybernate unless I am running eurofly or need to be away for a little while only.
If I am away for a long time I tend to shut down the system entirely.

On 15/01/2017 4:06 a.m., Thomas Stivers wrote:
All,

I have my laptop set up to sleep when I close the lid while plugged in and hibernate when I close the lid on battery. This is working well as far as NVDA coming back when I return from sleep, but I would like a way to get a spoken announcement when the computer is ready to use after waking up.

Before I start trying to put something together with an add-on for NVDA or an autoHotKey script I'd like to know if anyone else has solved this.

Thank you,

Thomas


Re: OCR software?

mk360
 

The latest version of Firefox supports PDF natively. However, I agree with you.


Regards,

mk.


El 14/01/2017 a las 14:00, Brian Vogel escribió:

nasrin,

           I'm sorry, but I can't help you with what you want to do.  I can see no rational reason to do it, either, but that's your call.

           There are so many PDF reading programs, many of which are accessible, other than Adobe Reader or Adobe Acrobat that your time would be much better spent finding a native PDF reading application to suit your needs.

            I do not know of a single web browser that does not use a plug-in, even if it's written "in house," to open PDF files within the browser.  Web browsers are not and never have been true PDF reading programs.
--
Brian

 He discloses the workings of a mind to which incoherence lends an illusion of profundity.

         ~ T. De Vere White

    




Re: OCR software?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Nasrin,

 

I have to agree with Brian. There are a lot of PDF readers. The webbie suite has a PDF reader. I don't know of any web browsers that are PDF readers. I don't think anybody can help you with this because it's impossible.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 9:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software?

 

nasrin,

           I'm sorry, but I can't help you with what you want to do.  I can see no rational reason to do it, either, but that's your call.

           There are so many PDF reading programs, many of which are accessible, other than Adobe Reader or Adobe Acrobat that your time would be much better spent finding a native PDF reading application to suit your needs.

            I do not know of a single web browser that does not use a plug-in, even if it's written "in house," to open PDF files within the browser.  Web browsers are not and never have been true PDF reading programs.
--
Brian

 He discloses the workings of a mind to which incoherence lends an illusion of profundity.

         ~ T. De Vere White

    

 


Windows 10 App Essentials 17.01 released

 

Hi everyone,

 

Windows 10 App Essentials 17.01 is now available:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/17.01

 

Important: if you are using Windows Insider build 15002 or later, please do NOT use this build – you should either use the latest development snapshot or wait until add-on 17.02 comes out. Also, this version is the last one to support NVDA 2016.3 or earlier.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: OCR software?

 

nasrin,

           I'm sorry, but I can't help you with what you want to do.  I can see no rational reason to do it, either, but that's your call.

           There are so many PDF reading programs, many of which are accessible, other than Adobe Reader or Adobe Acrobat that your time would be much better spent finding a native PDF reading application to suit your needs.

            I do not know of a single web browser that does not use a plug-in, even if it's written "in house," to open PDF files within the browser.  Web browsers are not and never have been true PDF reading programs.
--
Brian

 He discloses the workings of a mind to which incoherence lends an illusion of profundity.

         ~ T. De Vere White

    



Re: Returning from Sleep or Hybernation #addonrelease #adminnotice #cal-invite #cal-reminder

 

Hi,

Yes and maybe:

  • Yes, there is an add-on out there called power notifier (or something similar).
  • Maybe, as the add-on in question is undergoing code review by NV Access at the moment.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Thomas Stivers
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 7:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Returning from Sleep or Hybernation #addonrelease #adminnotice #addonrelease #adminnotice #cal-invite #cal-reminder #cal-invite #adminnotice

 

All,

 

I have my laptop set up to sleep when I close the lid while plugged in and hibernate when I close the lid on battery. This is working well as far as NVDA coming back when I return from sleep, but I would like a way to get a spoken announcement when the computer is ready to use after waking up.

 

Before I start trying to put something together with an add-on for NVDA or an autoHotKey script I'd like to know if anyone else has solved this.

 

Thank you,

 

Thomas