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Re: NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web page
Gene
you are using an inefficient procedure. Just
be in forms mode, type what you want to search for, then press enter. When
the results page loads, NVDA automatically goes back to browse mode. You
don't have to change it manually. When you are in forms mode and in a
google edit field and this is generally true on sites with search features, the
sites are designed so that pressing enter while in the search field activates
the search button. You don't have to move to it. And when new pages
load, using NVDA default settings, you are returned to browse mode
automatically.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web
page i press edit, activate edit box and type anything that i wish to search. then, close edit box and press tab or b botton to search it. On 1/25/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: > This isn't about editing. It is about activating a control in a flash > player. > > and regarding 2working with a search field such as a Google search field, > you don't have to move to the button. typing your search string and then > pressing enter will activate the search button without you moving to it. > > gene > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: nasrin khaksar > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 9:31 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web page > > > hi. > you can for example edit everything you want then, use down arrow to > hear botton. > sometimes bottons have labels and sometimes not. > in my experience, immediately after compleating form filds and fil the > desired informations, i use down arrow or tab key and nvda announces > botton. > in google also, sometimes nvda search botton and sometimes only botton. > hope that helps. > God bless you. > > On 1/25/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: >> There is no way. are you saying that JAWS announces the button as play >> and >> NVDA doesn't? If so, I don't know why. also, I may have forgotten to >> mention that after you press enter, the way, in NVDA to move from button >> to >> button is to tab and shift tab. You may not have to and I often just try >> pressing enter whether I can move or not or whether I hear any button >> announced or not. Sometimes, I try tabbing and pressing enter a number >> of >> times regardless of whether I hear any feedback or not. But I often use >> the >> mouse technique I described first. It often works and, in my experience, >> it >> works more often than the pressing enter method does. >> >> also, what we are discussing is an example of why demanding Windows users >> should have more than one screen-reader available. At times, JAWS will >> allow a Flash button to be activated and NVDA won't. At times, the >> reverse >> is true. Often, both screen-readers can be used successfully. >> >> Gene >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: Dennis L >> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 12:06 AM >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web page >> >> >> That worked pressing o then enter it said button is there a way to label >> the >> unlabeled button? >> >> >> >> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene >> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 5:16 PM >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web page >> >> >> >> the play button may be a control in a Flash player. Try going to the >> page, >> then make sure you are at the top, Type the letter o and see if you land >> on >> an embedded object. Press enter and try tabbing and shift tabbing. Do >> you >> see any buttons? Also, if that doesn't work, start over. Close and >> reopen >> the browser, go to the web page again, make sure you are at the top then >> type o to move to the embedded object. Now route the mouse to the >> current >> location of the object navigator with the command numpad insert numpad >> slash, the same key as for left click. >> >> Now press numpad slash by itself to left click the embedded object. Does >> the file start to play? >> >> >> >> Remember two things when following these instructions for working with >> the >> mouse. First, before starting the second set of instructions, make sure >> you >> are in object review. Issue the command numpad insert numpad 1. If you >> hear somethin like no previous review, you will already be in object >> review. >> If you hear something that isn't object review but some other review, >> continue to issue the command until you get to object review. >> >> >> >> Remember not to press enter on the embedded object. >> >> And one more thing: >> >> When I said to start over and close the browser, then open it and go to >> the >> page again, I did so to avoid any possible problems. I wanted you to >> start >> from the beginning so we both knew exactly what you were doing. But when >> not learning from these instructions, you don't have to do that. You >> can, >> as I recall, return to the page by using a book mark without closing the >> browser first. That will save you time. But if you can't get the file >> to >> play, you can try closing the browser first to see if that makes any >> difference. you can't get the file to play, you can close the browser, as >> I >> said initially. >> >> >> >> Gene >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: Dennis L >> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 3:51 PM >> >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >> >> Subject: [nvda] NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web page >> >> >> >> Hi, NVDA doesn't see the play button on a webpage however Jaws sees it. >> What is the reason for this? >> >> >> > > > -- > we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. > holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. > in the very authentic narration is: > imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. > best website for studying islamic book in different languages > al-islam.org > > > -- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: Problems with Firefox
hi.
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i also try to write in notepad++, copy and peist it into edit boxes of my firefox.
On 1/24/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
I forgot to point out that using a different browser on the site might work --
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: Version archive?
hi.
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you can find direct link for one version and change its number to your desire.
On 1/24/17, Damien Sykes-Lindley <damien@dcpendleton.plus.com> wrote:
Hi, --
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web page
gene,
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i press edit, activate edit box and type anything that i wish to search. then, close edit box and press tab or b botton to search it.
On 1/25/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
This isn't about editing. It is about activating a control in a flash --
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: Firefox memory loss syndrome
hi brian.
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i am sure that this problem because of nvda and nvda has not role about openning pages. sometimes maybe because of heavy trafic on some pages you cant open it. and sometimes maybe the server is not available temporaryly. God bless you and i wish that help all.
On 1/25/17, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
hi pascal --
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: Firefox memory loss syndrome
hi pascal
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i am sure that there are programs for recovery passwords in the internet, but i did not try them to know there accessibility and efficiency. thanks and God bless you.
On 1/25/17, Pascal Lambert <rambeau68@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Brian, --
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web page
Gene
This isn't about editing. It is about
activating a control in a flash player.
and regarding 2working with a search field such as
a Google search field, you don't have to move to the button. typing your
search string and then pressing enter will activate the search button without
you moving to it.
gene
----- Original Message -----
From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web
page you can for example edit everything you want then, use down arrow to hear botton. sometimes bottons have labels and sometimes not. in my experience, immediately after compleating form filds and fil the desired informations, i use down arrow or tab key and nvda announces botton. in google also, sometimes nvda search botton and sometimes only botton. hope that helps. God bless you. On 1/25/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: > There is no way. are you saying that JAWS announces the button as play and > NVDA doesn't? If so, I don't know why. also, I may have forgotten to > mention that after you press enter, the way, in NVDA to move from button to > button is to tab and shift tab. You may not have to and I often just try > pressing enter whether I can move or not or whether I hear any button > announced or not. Sometimes, I try tabbing and pressing enter a number of > times regardless of whether I hear any feedback or not. But I often use the > mouse technique I described first. It often works and, in my experience, it > works more often than the pressing enter method does. > > also, what we are discussing is an example of why demanding Windows users > should have more than one screen-reader available. At times, JAWS will > allow a Flash button to be activated and NVDA won't. At times, the reverse > is true. Often, both screen-readers can be used successfully. > > Gene > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Dennis L > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 12:06 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web page > > > That worked pressing o then enter it said button is there a way to label the > unlabeled button? > > > > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 5:16 PM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web page > > > > the play button may be a control in a Flash player. Try going to the page, > then make sure you are at the top, Type the letter o and see if you land on > an embedded object. Press enter and try tabbing and shift tabbing. Do you > see any buttons? Also, if that doesn't work, start over. Close and reopen > the browser, go to the web page again, make sure you are at the top then > type o to move to the embedded object. Now route the mouse to the current > location of the object navigator with the command numpad insert numpad > slash, the same key as for left click. > > Now press numpad slash by itself to left click the embedded object. Does > the file start to play? > > > > Remember two things when following these instructions for working with the > mouse. First, before starting the second set of instructions, make sure you > are in object review. Issue the command numpad insert numpad 1. If you > hear somethin like no previous review, you will already be in object review. > If you hear something that isn't object review but some other review, > continue to issue the command until you get to object review. > > > > Remember not to press enter on the embedded object. > > And one more thing: > > When I said to start over and close the browser, then open it and go to the > page again, I did so to avoid any possible problems. I wanted you to start > from the beginning so we both knew exactly what you were doing. But when > not learning from these instructions, you don't have to do that. You can, > as I recall, return to the page by using a book mark without closing the > browser first. That will save you time. But if you can't get the file to > play, you can try closing the browser first to see if that makes any > difference. you can't get the file to play, you can close the browser, as I > said initially. > > > > Gene > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Dennis L > > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 3:51 PM > > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > > Subject: [nvda] NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web page > > > > Hi, NVDA doesn't see the play button on a webpage however Jaws sees it. > What is the reason for this? > > > -- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: when on a web page nvda doesn't select a link
hi.
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i use only mozilla firefox. when i press insert+f7 i see the list of links. use only up or down arrow key to find my desire or i press the first letter of it. then, press enter to activate it. this method always works for me without problem. God bless you and i hope that my comment helps you.
On 1/25/17, Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@gmail.com> wrote:
I sometimes happen to encounter it, so I would usually repeat an action --
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web page
hi.
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you can for example edit everything you want then, use down arrow to hear botton. sometimes bottons have labels and sometimes not. in my experience, immediately after compleating form filds and fil the desired informations, i use down arrow or tab key and nvda announces botton. in google also, sometimes nvda search botton and sometimes only botton. hope that helps. God bless you.
On 1/25/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
There is no way. are you saying that JAWS announces the button as play and --
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: is there a list to discuss NVDA add-ons
Георги Ламбов <obichamlegiona@...>
Well, pardon my mistake! I was copying german words and I don't know how it's happened. It's interesting: I've written the letter, then I was reading it, the content was what i was writting, but in the list come just the german words!
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Re: is there a list to discuss NVDA add-ons
Георги Ламбов <obichamlegiona@...>
Packen. Vt. 1. Хващам, сграбчвам 2. Прибирам. стягам, събирам: (куфар). опаковам. die Reisetasche packen. стягам пътната чанта. seine Siebensachen packen. събирам си багажа. 3. fig. Увличам, завладявам. Packend. Adjectiv. увлекателен, завладяващ. Затрогващ. Thank you Brian! I've also subscribed the list.Georgi На 25.1.2017 г. в 11:02 ч., Brian's
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Re: Contact
John Hedges
I have not seen a download for Speech API since Window XP, version 5.1. I think Win dows 10 is version 5.4. A Speech Platform softare was available for phones on a server scenario a few years ago, but not for desktop. I just use the buildt-in voices for Windows, like David.
From: Ibrahim Ajayi
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 8:20 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Contact
Hi good people:
I've tried unsuccessfully all day to download the Microsoft speech platform runtime SPK version 11 software, but with no success. When I arrive at the page for the download, the software is not listed among the files to be downloaded. Is there a software by that name: does anyone have it, can anyone mail it to me. Looking forward to reading from you. I am Ibrahim Ajayi from Nigeria.
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Contact
Hi good people:
I've tried unsuccessfully all day to download the Microsoft speech platform runtime SPK version 11 software, but with no success. When I arrive at the page for the download, the software is not listed among the files to be downloaded. Is there a software by that name: does anyone have it, can anyone mail it to me. Looking forward to reading from you. I am Ibrahim Ajayi from Nigeria.
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Re: NVDA Will Not Load
Hi
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On 25/01/2017 11:28, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) wrote:
Hi friends,
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NVDA Will Not Load
Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) <steven.hicks@...>
Hi friends,
I Have a Microsoft Windows 10 64 bit laptop and it completely refuses to load the latest NVDA, does anyone have any ideas what the issue may be? You can double clik the desktop icon after a fresh install and nothing at all happens. I Have even tried running it as an administrator. The issues seem to have started after I installed a Bluetooth speaker, an Anker but I have now uninstalled this from the device manager and allso in control panel, view devices and deleting it there.
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Re: NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web page
Gene
There is no way. are you saying that JAWS
announces the button as play and NVDA doesn't? If so, I don't know
why. also, I may have forgotten to mention that after you press enter, the
way, in NVDA to move from button to button is to tab and shift tab. You
may not have to and I often just try pressing enter whether I can move or not or
whether I hear any button announced or not. Sometimes, I try tabbing and
pressing enter a number of times regardless of whether I hear any feedback or
not. But I often use the mouse technique I described first. It often
works and, in my experience, it works more often than the pressing enter method
does.
also, what we are discussing is an example of
why demanding Windows users should have more than one screen-reader
available. At times, JAWS will allow a Flash button to be activated and
NVDA won't. At times, the reverse is true. Often, both
screen-readers can be used successfully.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis L
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web
page That worked pressing o then enter it said button is there a way to label the unlabeled button?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
the play button may be a control in a Flash player. Try going to the page, then make sure you are at the top, Type the letter o and see if you land on an embedded object. Press enter and try tabbing and shift tabbing. Do you see any buttons? Also, if that doesn't work, start over. Close and reopen the browser, go to the web page again, make sure you are at the top then type o to move to the embedded object. Now route the mouse to the current location of the object navigator with the command numpad insert numpad slash, the same key as for left click. Now press numpad slash by itself to left click the embedded object. Does the file start to play?
Remember two things when following these instructions for working with the mouse. First, before starting the second set of instructions, make sure you are in object review. Issue the command numpad insert numpad 1. If you hear somethin like no previous review, you will already be in object review. If you hear something that isn't object review but some other review, continue to issue the command until you get to object review.
Remember not to press enter on the embedded object. And one more thing: When I said to start over and close the browser, then open it and go to the page again, I did so to avoid any possible problems. I wanted you to start from the beginning so we both knew exactly what you were doing. But when not learning from these instructions, you don't have to do that. You can, as I recall, return to the page by using a book mark without closing the browser first. That will save you time. But if you can't get the file to play, you can try closing the browser first to see if that makes any difference. you can't get the file to play, you can close the browser, as I said initially.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis L Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 3:51 PM Subject: [nvda] NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web page
Hi, NVDA doesn’t see the play button on a webpage however Jaws sees it. What is the reason for this?
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Re: when on a web page nvda doesn't select a link
Dejan Ristic
I sometimes happen to encounter it, so I would usually repeat an
action so that it does not fail for the second time. If it is not
working for you, I activate the focus mode, then I tab to the
desired link, and then I press enter, so that I activate the link.
If it is to no avail, I play with different browsers. I also make
sure whether a web page is maximized, so that NVDA is successful
in communicating with it.
On 1/25/2017 9:29 AM, Dennis L wrote:
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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 17.02 released
P. Otter
ok, joseph,
thankyou for this update!
cheers
paul otter
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Re: is there a list to discuss NVDA add-ons
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
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From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 6:35 AM Subject: [nvda] is there a list to discuss NVDA add-ons Is there an email list to discuss NVDA Add-ons? If so what is the
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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 17.02 released
Simone Dal Maso
Il 25/01/2017 09:52, Manish Nagwani ha scritto:
Joseph sir can you tell me what is the use of this app?If you have windows10, install it. Stop. And you will have only advantages. Thank you
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